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How in the world did Americans ever come up with the idea of eating cold cereal and bagels for breakfast?  
I know in other countries they eat other things.
  
What's for breakfast at your house?

I just had homemade salmon patties with horseradish  on top
(oh, how I love horseradish), sauteed dandelion greens with onions and flaxmeal bread.


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your brkfst sounds....healthy.
Yeah, I agree that other cultures eat  totally different breakfasts.....the vietnamese eat a wonderful soup, "Pho'", that must be very healthful....it is consomme, or delicious, rich stock, with cold, thinly sliced rare beef slipped in just as served. Then the additions: fresh basil, mint, cilantro, thinly sliced jalapeno, and bean sprouts are plunged in while its still steaming hot....is that a healthy breakfst or what?  Oh and there are rice noodles in it.There are a lot of "pho" places around my city, and the vietnamese go out for breakfast in groups or pairs, very celebratory.
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My breakfast was 1/4 lb grassfed beef sausage, sweet potato, yellow squash, onion, Portabella mushroom, 1 free range egg.

god and stays with you.


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Quoted from Andrea AWsec
How in the world did Americans ever come up with the idea of eating cold cereal and bagels for breakfast?


what's wrong w/ that?     I know they're not good for us, but I do miss them. Funny I used to eat bagels and cream cheese all the time. No wonder I felt poopy!!        And Shredded Wheat......yum............  



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My favorite breakfast for years was cooked Irish style oatmeal with
dates, raisins, nuts.. and of course pb.  As I've gotten older, I seem to need more protein..(eggs)

I really like horseradish too.  I'm having a hard time switching from the stuff in the bottle to fresh..The fresh is just hot and I'm not getting the horseradish "flava"..what am I doing wrong?  Somebody please tell me...
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The breakfoods as we know now started after WW2, when the world got in a hurry, they did not have time to set down and eat, and they did not have time to fix breakfast, so they started eat fast and here came all the cereals, and then the donuts shops.


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The way I see it, the American diet was largely influenced by the agriculture industry.  They took a look at all this grassy stuff out there and said, "Hey, let's find a way to get people to pay us for it!"

Then when nutrition information became available, they decided to "enrich" it to give it the illusion of providing sustenance.

So that IMO explains wheat and corn.  Go ahead, use it to make ethanol....


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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LarryC., that's exactly what my 90 year old friend said.  She remembered watching the shift happen, followed by the loss of discipline & behavior problems in the school.....definitely a connection.  Georgia thought it was due to mothers being gone from the home; I think the breakfast might have had just as much to with it.  

I have 3 eggs every morning, with a GTD compliant grain & veggie.  And lots of ghee/butter!  The beef sausage sounds yummy - I haven't had a good sausage in a long time!
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I really like horseradish too.  I'm having a hard time switching from the stuff in the bottle to fresh..The fresh is just hot and I'm not getting the horseradish "flava"..what am I doing wrong?  Somebody please tell me...


Fresh horseradish is quite warm...  The flavor is there, too, but if you get too much at once, the flavor is totally smashed by the heat.  I nibble on the fresh root and really enjoy the flavor or grate just a quarter teaspoon to put on eggs or refried beans.  Much better than hot peppers for me.

I usually ahve three eggs scrambled in ghee for breakfast (~7:00) and a hand full of walnuts about 10:00.  I sometimes have a piece of fruit as well.  I'm good until lunch after that.


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Anyway, breakfast had been a problem for me for a long time.  I was raised on milk and sugar cereal (with even more sugar on top) for many years.  When I became an adult, I switched to cereals with much lower sugar content.  Still I became very dissatisfied with cereals, although I could get by on some of the heartier, lower GI products such as granola or Kashi brand cereals to which I added nuts or seeds.

Then when I learned about BTD, I switched to wheat and corn-free cereals and soy or rice milk.  So that's where I'm at today.

Arrowhead mills makes a Buckwheat & maple cereal that stays crunchy.  I add nuts (like pecans, pine nuts), soy milk and honey (which makes this good for an Explorer who can have black dotted avoids.)

I also will have eggs and sausage made from turkey, beef or chicken, gluten free waffles (although these include potato starch) with sausage, or homemade rice flour pancakes with sausage.

I am aware of the "supper -- it's the new breakfast" idea.  But I'm so nauseous and pressed for time in the morning, that the idea of even preparing a meat and vegetable dinner for breakfast  is about as appealing as trolling for food in the litter box.

Hopefully I haven't just killed the thread with that last sentence.  If anyone's still reading, do a search for "breakfast" -- there are other threads on this subject.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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And yes, I had behavior problems alright!  The principal would keep an index card on each student that he had to reprimand.  One day he pulled mine out and showed me.  He pointedly told me that he needed two cards for me because the first one was crammed full of incidents.  And I was only in grade 3!  (Actually I felt a strange swelling of pride at that moment.)


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Quoted from LarryC.
My breakfast was 1/4 lb grassfed beef sausage...

Tell me more.  Do you make these yourself?  Is there a recipe?  The only beef sausage I can find either has preservative (Armour brand) or dextrose / maltodextrin (Hebrew National).  Whole Foods has only beef bacon, not sausage.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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About horseradish--I work in a food production plant that makes horseradish, cocktail sauce and hot mustard among other things, so I'm well acquainted with horseradish and how to prepare it.

If you grind your own, make sure the root is really fresh. You don't like limp vegetables--your horseradish shouldn't be that way either! I've found the horseradish roots sold in the produce section at your local supermarket tend to be dried out and stale. If you can find someone in the neighborhood who grows it I'll bet they'll be glad to give you some, it will take over the garden if left to grow without thinning.

Anyway, the finer you grind the root the hotter it will be, but it will also go flat faster too. The active 'hot' ingredient in horseradish is mustard oil, which is very volatile and evaporates quickly when exposed to air. If you do a fine grind, store the horseradish in a bottle with vinegar or oil and a tight-fitting lid and store it upside down in the fridge. It should last a couple of months that way. Anytime you open the bottle, minimize the exposure to air.

SquarePeg--you can easily make your own breakfast sausage patties from ground beef, if you can't get casing-style sausage. I make mine with ground turkey, lamb or beef, or a mix of any two meats, and add in chopped onion, garlic, parsley, cumin, and any other herbs or spices that sound good. I make a big batch, freeze them in packages of six, and take out one package a week to cook one or two up for breakfast along with some greens and eggs. (Sundays I make amaranth pancakes and scrambled eggs.)

If you want to make sausage in casings, I know Kitchen Aid mixers come with a sausage-making attachment. You should be able to find a supplier for casings through a google search. I plan to do this once I've got my Kitchen Aid.


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Ugh you guys eat too much in the morning for me.   When I was a kid I liked cheerios plain, grape nuts plain, shredded wheat with salt and rice crispies with milk.  The when I grew up I stopped eating breakfast except on vacation.  After being on the BTD and hearing how important breakfast was, I started with a rice cake in the morning.  Then I graduated to an egg with a banana 2 hours later.  Maybe a rice cake if I got hungry before lunch.  So along come the Explorer diet, this tells me not to eat eggs or bananas for 3 months.  So I made a shake of whey protein powder and carob powder and then had an apple 2 hours later with a rice cake as a snack, if I needed it. I also tried millet and quinoa with ghee and salt on the weekends.  I used to have oat meal (another dot) on the weekends with butter and salt.  OK I could not stay away from my bananas and eggs for more than 1 month without feeling horrible.  So I started sneaking eggs in a couple times a week.  I have to have a banana a day or I cramp up.  So that is my un-exciting breakfast plan.


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I get my grassfed beef sasuage from u.s. wellness meats.

there web site is uswellnessmeats.com

they ship any were.


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I still like cereal in the AM, but stick with oatmeal, cranberries and a bannana or.... at this site someone told me to do Amaramth and Quinoa, which I luv to cook togehter when I have 25 Minutes in the AM and I add dried cranberries. I'm good till 10Am and then I do a sanck like nuts.


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I know for me it is hard to get the recommended servings of foods into my day if I don't eat a well balanced breakfast. So as a Warrior/BT A I need to eat some veggies.

When I was a kid my mom used to feed us liver for breakfast, it was not all that bad. I ate it cooked like shoe leather with ketchup on it. As an adult it is easy to eat non breakfast foods in the morning because of what I ate as a kid.

Our family food history is important.


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Americans are very narrow minded about breakfast! We eat the same foods, most of which are not particularly appealing.
Even tho I have a voracious appetite, I'm rarely hungry the very first thing in the morning.
When we were kids, we were forced to eat an egg every morning. My mom said an egg will hold you till lunch. She wouldn't allow us to snack. What she should have done was to have us eat fruit & then (if we were at home) the egg a little later.
As an adult, my appetite is for a huge meal at noon (10AM to 2PM! depending on other things)& various other combinations throughout the day. It doesn't work to wait till evening for the big meal as I won't get full. Anyway, my mom would be mortified at my eating, but I developed low blood sugar & my needs vary from day to day.
I don't fit into the American work pattern either, needing more at noon. If I work, I eat less, but figure out ways to keep the appetite at bay. Also the act of being busy(working) keeps my mind off of food.
Most of you know about my unsweetened chocolate, either powdered like black coffee or a block of it with a banana(now a black dot!) or a Lara Bar(also a no-no!) which really can cut the appetite(for me to bring it to normal!). I still have been cheating with the Lara Bar that has dates in it, but have cut to one bar with more chocolate where I had 2 bars before.
I got off the path of the topic. Back to eggs. They are very nutritious, but I wish we were given them in a salad rather than with a piece of white bread for breakfast. We also weren't taught to drink water. But my sis & I are good water drinkers now.  So, if our breakfast was a piece of fruit, a glass of water, & then maybe the egg, it would have been better. Somehow we all managed to survive! Thankfully, we are learning the BTD/GTD & lovin' it!
Meanwhile, I like to see this group breaking the mold about breakfast!!


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My recent favorite breakfast is one slice of sourdough rye, toasted, with ghee, nutritional yeast, and garlic powder. Then I fry two eggs in ghee with salt and parsley, and top the toast for an open faced fried egg sandwich. Really good.


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My breakfast this morning was homemade turkey sausage patties, crimini mushrooms and baby bok choy sauteed in olive oil, and a rice cake with ghee and a sprinkling of Herbamare. Simple... but very satisfying. Oh... and my daily cup of white tea too...


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My favorite breakfast for years was cooked Irish style oatmeal with dates, raisins, nuts.. and of course pb.


Is Irish oatmeal anything like Irish coffee?  
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Fresh horseradish is quite warm...  The flavor is there, too, but if you get too much at once, the flavor is totally smashed by the heat.  I nibble on the fresh root and really enjoy the flavor or grate just a quarter teaspoon to put on eggs or refried beans.  Much better than hot peppers for me.


I recently bought a jar of grated horseradish, thinking it might taste a bit like the horseradish sauces I've tasted.  I put some of it on a beef patty, and it didn't go well with it at all.  How do I use this stuff to good effect?
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Ok, on-topic this time.  I used to love frosted mini-wheats, cheerios, raisin nut bran, blueberry morning, honey bunches of oats, or granola.  Two bowls of cereal with milk every morning, with sugar added for plain stuff like corn flakes, total, wheaties, or cheerios.  It's a wonder it took so long for me to reach my wit's end.  And it's a wonder I did so well in school, or didn't have behavior problems.

Lately I've been having a pan-fried beef patty topped with Colby and salsa, with a side of steamed veggies.  Sometimes I'll add and egg or two, and usually I'll have some yogurt or cottage cheese with fruit a short while later.
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Drive55: I like to make a compliant mayo and mix some of it into the grated horseradish. Not knowing how your taste runs, you may want to add some compliant sweetener to it as well like the light agave syrup.

Breakfasts, hmmmm...it really varies...either eggs & veggies or some fish & maybe veggies (sometimes just plain fish 'n' salt) or oat bran with almond butter, chopped dates, coconut oil, and cinnamon.
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I recently bought a jar of grated horseradish, thinking it might taste a bit like the horseradish sauces I've tasted.  I put some of it on a beef patty, and it didn't go well with it at all.  How do I use this stuff to good effect?

Most grated horseradish is mixed with vinegar...  I don't know how to use that since I can't eat vinegar...  I dig some fresh root and grate what I want at a time...  I put it on eggs and in refried beans, or other mexican dishes to substitute for chiles or chili powder...

When I ate beef, I liked fresh ground horseradish with it...  Maybe that was my body wanting something beneficial with the avoid beef!


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