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grooviechickie
Tuesday, April 29, 2008, 11:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Can anyone tell me the reason why A secretors can't have bananas, when non-secretors can?
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Mayflowers
Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 12:10am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Secretor:
AVOID: Contains lectin or other agglutinin. Metabolic inhibitor. Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins.

i.e., Bananas contain lectins that are harmful to secretors and they cause digestive problems.(also slow the metabolism..I really don't need that. Mine's slow as it is) I made frozen bananas in my vitamix into "ice cream" and an hour after eating it, I broke out in a rash across the bridge of my nose.. I don't like bananas myself..ok, except banana cream pie, or chunky monkey...(sweet tooth rearing it's ugly head)or banana bread...  just not raw bananas. It wasn't hard to give up bananas.
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Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 2:57am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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We are lucky sometimes if we are a nonnie...i don't think I am ready to  do GTD yet!


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grooviechickie
Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 7:26am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I just haven't had bananas for nearly 6 months, and then yesterday I had one. And it was awesome. Delicious. Fantastic.

And then I got a migraine.

I don't know if it was other things that caused it, or the banana.  
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Mayflowers
Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 12:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Migraine?  Interesting. I got migraines from oranges and the juice.  I used to get at least one every month or two..When I stopped oranges, so did my migraines..for the most part. I'll get one if I'm under a lot of stress or lack of sleep, but very rarely. My whole family is allergic to oranges, my sister, her son and daughter and both my B and O sons are also.

I'm jealous you can have sweet potatoes..my mom and I really loved them. She'd make them 5 days a week and I'd still relish them. (with butter)
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Banana's are fine for B-nonnies, but they give me a bit of a headache.  You are supposed to stay away from them if you have adrenal fatigue, because of the potassium.
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Well, since we can't EAT bananas, let's all GO bananas!!!!!!

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grooviechickie
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As for my original post, I will test myself with a banana again in a month or so and see if it happens again.

Before BTD, I used to get headaches nearly every day, and I would get migraines 1-2 times a month that would last a day or more ... the severe ones, where they lasted 5 days or more, were once or twice a year... it was really draining.  

When I stopped eating wheat, my headaches disappeared and my migraines became very, very rare. So I really noticed it when I had one because of that. I'm still recovering.  
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I could not stay away from bananas for the Explorer 3 month waiting period.  I get cramps in my feet and legs without them.  On the BTD they are neutral for B non-secretors.


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I could not stay away from bananas for the Explorer 3 month waiting period.  I get cramps in my feet and legs without them.  On the BTD they are neutral for B non-secretors.


This is why I'm going back to BTD. I cannot see how I can eat something on GTD that is an avoid on BTD. Makes absolutely no sense to me.    I know the "answer" is it resets our genetics. Still, I know BTD worked for me, I don't get GTD, so I'm good w/ BTD. I think this all comes down to individuality still.  




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did you read the blog on......
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2008/04/24/themes-and-skins?blog=24

and Dr C......
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Dr. D. has a reason behind every food placement.  Nothing was placed randomly. However, believe me when I tell you, the database of analysis is huge and the biochemistry amazingly and beautifully complicated.


I am fine with that and don t expect Dr D to give me all the details of his scientific database...


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Hi Lola, yes I read Dr D's blog on "Themes and Skins" and it was very good.  

As for Dr C's comment.....  The blog "Lectin Scrubbing With Deflect" has me feeling dumber than dumb, 'cause most of it went straight over my head!  So I'd probably just want to find the nearest cliff if I had to try and understand Dr D's database!

For me I think I need to really settle into the BTD before trying the GTD (as many lovely people have suggested for newbies anyway)

Also, I have lost so many of my favourite fruits on the GT2 diet I don't think I could cope anyway.  I have just checked the GTD book to be sure and have counted 5 things in the superfoods/diamonds list that I would be able to find in our reasonably large fruit market at the moment.  (grapefuit, lemon, lime, papaya and pineapple) I hate papaya, lemon and limes are ok for salad dressing but not to put in your handbag for a healthy snack, so that leaves grapefruit and pineapple.  Not, I would think, a great selection.  We are heading into winter now so I won't see peaches or nectarines for months again.  How on earth are the other Gatherers coping with this?  Maybe some of you have a better selection of berries, we only see blueberries, strawberries and raspberries in most of our fruitmarkets - and they are NOT cheap - and, might I add, not on our list anyway!!

Ok, my fruit ranting is over  


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You are supposed to stay away from them if you have adrenal fatigue, because of the potassium.


Ummmm, tell us again why potassium isn't good for adrenal fatigue?


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Ummmm, tell us again why potassium isn't good for adrenal fatigue?


http://www.krispin.com/potassm.html

altho, I've read just the opposite. One more reason I'd love to see "the book". It's just so frustrating not knowing 'which way to go'.  



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The GTD portions of the thread were moved here:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1209520581/
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I just don't eat any fruit either - adrenals can't hack it yet. So the skimpy Gatherer list doesn't really affect me. Drive55, bananas give me a headache too.  
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Mayflowers
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I seem to be having fruit problems myself. Insulin resistance from old (er) age I suppose. I'm finding it hard to lose when I have fruit. I mostly eat berries..figs.. I could go for some banana bread.. (oops)  
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Migraine?  Interesting. I got migraines from oranges and the juice.  I used to get at least one every month or two..When I stopped oranges, so did my migraines..for the most part. I'll get one if I'm under a lot of stress or lack of sleep, but very rarely. My whole family is allergic to oranges, my sister, her son and daughter and both my B and O sons are also.

I'm jealous you can have sweet potatoes..my mom and I really loved them. She'd make them 5 days a week and I'd still relish them. (with butter)


My husband is an A and he connected his lifelong occasional cold sores to oranges and the juice.  
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I find bananas highly beneficial to me. When I was a kids I would chop one up and put it in a glass of milk and eat it. Intuitive? because I don't know why I did it and no one else did it that I knew.
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