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Xylobrit make or obtain xylitol and theirs comes from fruits, vegetables and hard woods like, in this case, the birch tree. It has a blood sugar rating of around 7 / 100 so its way better than fructose and helps promote the enamel in teeth, suitable for pregnant mums, benefits the production friendly bacteria etc etc. I am suffering with a yeast overgrowth also and have had a top British nutritionist give me the go ahead with this product, what other brands of xylitol are like I'm afraid I can't say - such as Xylosweet by Higher Nature.
Hope this helps,

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Thanks for the information Steve, I'd struggled to find xylitol locally and now find it's easily available over in the UK   after all.

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Hello Italybound,
    As to your question, I found this DOM in a local natural health magazine called Natural Awakenings. She is sort of new to my area and I knew what she specialized in and they(this Alternative Health Clinic) does this type of testing anyway and thought I would have it done to see what my blood cells showed up and I am really glad I did go. Now I know what it is and that it can be treated the correct natural way. Maybe you can do a search on your computer and find a DOM in your state or maybe you might have a ND in your state that possibly might do the test. I guess I am just lucky that I found one near my area that does it. Best of luck to you, let me know if you find one. Also, if you do and you have the test done, let me know what yours showed as well.
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Hello all BTD's,
Been awhile since my last post to you all.
As far as this carageenan ingredient is concerned, I have been learning a lot about it. Didn't even know it was an avoid until I  mentioned  it on the forum that I had been drinking silk light vanilla soy milk and one forum member warned me against it. Don't drink it anymore. I have been reading articles on the internet and tallking with a lady from american pharmacal(from Dr.D.) and she told me that carageenan is carageenan, no matter if it's food grade or not & that there is no such thing as food grade carageenan, it's all the same, I soon found this out from another article I read which stated that the food grade type can cause problems as well,so it's probably just as safe to steeer clear away from it. This same lady told me to use the west soy organic soy milk,the unsweetened kind, it doesn't contain carageenan, so I bought it lately, the vanilla flavor and it wasn't too bad, but the only problem is that I cannot afford to keep buying those small cartons. So the only solution that I could come up with, is that I bought some Geni-soy protein powder mix(vanilla)and mixed about 10-12 scoops of it into a tall container of distilled water and shook it real good and keep it in the refrigerator for use on my cereal or drinking purposes, any other solutions someone can come up with, jump in and let me know.
I want to alert forum members  to check the labels on organic soy milks that are kept cold w/other milk products, I learned that they contain carageenan as well, could be the result of another GMO product. So, don't be fooled into this. Just because a product says it's organic doesn't necessarily mean it's so, need to make sure it all the certifed organic labeling on it, either by the UDSA/organic or the QAI(Quality Assurance Int.) Soy milks such as Silk, 8th continent, and probably others I am not aware of, will have this carageenan additive in it.(OH those pesky chemicals that they add to our food just to make us sick.) So, please be aware of this. This additive is not only an avoid for type A's, but also bad for all other blood types as well. It can cause serious stomach problems according to a website:www.rense.com/general74/glue.htm in some people.
So that is my statements on the subject, will have to learn as I go along on this journey. Sure will make it more easier it we just lived in a world free of chemicals, and not had to worry about what is in our food or personal products we use and lived in a more natural world the way God intended it to be. That would be ever so nice, but it's not, so we have to be consumer watchdogs on what we foods and products we purchase.
Take care everyone and try to stay in good health.
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we have all been warned on the dangers of gums and additives...they exacerbate lectin damage.

make your own milk from grains or seeds etc....it s easy and compliant......
http://members.tripod.com/~iskra/nomilk/altmilk.htm

and much cheaper!


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Does anyone know if sucralose feeds candida?  I don't go after it, but there are a few things I like that it shows up in (like my whey protein powder) that I don't want to get rid of.  I know sucralose is a toxin on GTD, but then so is the whey protein!
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I think I may be battling Candida again.  Should I stay away from fruits too?  I don't have a problem cutting out the sugars, like honey and agave and all that, they just make things taste yummy.  But I don't know if giving up fruit is a great idea either.  I suppose I could cut back or something.


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I try to avoid most fruits that aren't berries.  Even grannie smith apples seem to feed the stuff, sour as they are!  Honey is a definite no-no, agave is better than honey but still not great.  I hear that xylitol is good, and substitutes 1:1 with sugar.  I just bought some today, in fact!

These threads have a lot of useful info on candida:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-encloplib/m-1116093883/s-0/
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-encloplib/m-1120926731/s-0/
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Thanks man.  I gotta figure out how to do the spit test.  I'll try and google it.  Do you know how?

I got one.  Does this sound right? http://www.adhdrelief.com/CandidaTest.html


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That's it.  Same one I saw!  I thought it would be something a lot more complex, but what could be simpler than spitting in a glass of water?
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Thanks!!!!  So you're saying I should stick to berries, eh?  That does make sense because they are the least sweet.  I love all the fruits though.


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Does anyone know if sucralose feeds candida?   I know sucralose is a toxin on GTD,


isn't sucralose an avoid on both diets?  



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mattamal sent me some info on nettle root's action against candida. I googled it and came up w/ this page of info:
http://www.google.com/search?h.....+candida&spell=1

thanks matt..............nice to see you posting.......this should've been you.  


I have read it's the leaf and not the root that is effective against allergies  

As soon as I started taking Stinging Nettle Leaf my allergies left... Now I've got Rob on it and his are gone.
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isn't sucralose an avoid on both diets?  


I don't think sucralose is listed on BTD.  It's not in the typebase.  I wouldn't expect it in the books because it's a fairly new thing.
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I don't think sucralose is listed on BTD.  It's not in the typebase.  I wouldn't expect it in the books because it's a fairly new thing.


hey drive, I just meant that the process in which it's made,,,, doesn't that make it an avoid?

hey funky, mattamal was using it for candida and you're using it for allergies.........do we consider that the same since candida prob contributes to allergies?



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for that very reason, those having this issue benefit greatly by following the allergies health series book.


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hey drive, I just meant that the process in which it's made,,,, doesn't that make it an avoid?

hey funky, mattamal was using it for candida and you're using it for allergies.........do we consider that the same since candida prob contributes to allergies?


interesting!
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I think the sucralose question may be a moot point now.  I had just bought the whey protein powder.  When I mixed up some, the first glass was ok, but later that day I mixed up a second glass, and it cramped my stomach.  Oh well....
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Drive, how is your candida fight going?  I just did the spit test this morning again and it looked practically like the picture on the computer.  YIKES!!!!!  

I'm discouraged.  On another note, my neighbor and I go to church together and they had a another member, Paul, over to help with cutting down some trees.  We were talking and somehow we got on cancer, and then toxins in foods and all this stuff and he said the thing that brought him to the Lord was Candidiasis.  Or however you say a candida overgrowth.  It was really great to talk to someone that had similar symptoms and have them understand what's going on!!!!  He's very strict with his diet, he read the D'Adamo books and said he found the foods congruent with what screws him up and what doesn't.  He said it took him SEVEN years before he got better.  But he had some worse symptoms than even I had.  But some of the same too!!!!

It just makes me thankful for this sight and for other people that understand the struggles.


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Drive, how is your candida fight going?  I just did the spit test this morning again and it looked practically like the picture on the computer.  YIKES!!!!!


I was so excited, when I got up this morning my tongue wasn't coated!  I felt pretty good and very energetic this morning, despite going to bed a little later than I should have last night.  That didn't last long though....  I pushed my luck with that protein drink again, and lost.

So I'll go back and fill in the gaps about that.  I bought the protein mix, then I posted the question.  I should have posted the question first, but it was a slightly impulsive buy .  The first glass of the stuff I drank didn't bother my stomach.  I had a second glass hours later (this was on Saturday) and that's the one that bothered me.  So I had some lingering doubt about whether it was the drink that caused the trouble or if it was something else.

Today I brought a bottle of the drink with me to work.  I start at 7 am.  Around 7:20 I drank a sip, thinking to see what a little sip did to my stomach, but it tasted so good that I took 2 more gulps and another little sip, in total about 6-7 oz., or almost half the bottle.  Maybe 5 to 10 minutes later I noticed that my stomach was starting to feel unsettled.  Then I started feeling weak.  Then I had a loose BM, and immediately thereafter I left work sick, at 8 am.  It worked fast!  I was feeling great until I drank that garbage.

Here are the ingredients: whey protein blend (whey protein concentrate and isolate), super recovery blend (creatine monohydrate, taurine, l-glutamine, leucine, isoleucine, valine), natural and artificial flavors, soy lecithin, acesulfame potassium, sucralose.

I suspect the sucralose is the culprit, but wiser eyes may see something else in here that could be problematic.

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DANG!!!!!

I hate it that some foods do this to us!!!!!  I used to eat whatever the heck I wanted.  It just gets frustrating.  Oh well, at least we'll be alot healthier in the long run for looking into all of this!!!!

I hope you feel better buddy!


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DANG!!!!!

I hate it that some foods do this to us!!!!!  I used to eat whatever the heck I wanted.


Yeah, and you used to be sick all the time too! (just like me)  I think these kinds of foods were affecting us the same way "back then", but we were already sick from so many other things that we didn't even notice.  The bucket was full then, but now that it's empty, clean, and dry, that one little drop seems like a lot more, even if it isn't really.

edited to add: I'm already feeling a little better, and I expect to be back to "normal" (whatever THAT means) by tomorrow!
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Well for me, I didn't show any problems until I was about 30 years old.  Before that I had more energy than I knew what to do with.  I worked very hard and played hard.  I guess those days are probably over.  I need to learn to relax more and enjoy the energy when I got it!!!

Today wasn't too bad!!!!


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I used to eat whatever the heck I wanted.

you bet!!


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