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funkymuse
Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 3:31am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Take your polyflora before going to bed, ideally on an empty stomach.  It has less competition from stomach acids that way.

For some people, taking probiotics in the morning doesn't work because all the digestive enzymes being produced in response to the incoming foods, will damage or kill the beneficial organisms.


I set my Polyflora out each evening with my NAG and Valerine.  Right before bed which is about 2-3 hours after dinner, I take my dosages.  In the morning around 4:30 - 5:00 am when I get up to go to the bathroom which is about 2-3 hours before breakfast, I take my 2nd dosage.

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I have switched from drinking organic low fat milk to low fat vanilla soy milk which doesn't seem to bother me except that I get a little gassy from it,please check to see if your soy milk has carageenan. it prob does and it's an avoid......that could also be contributing to your gas.  
As for the sweetners that you all mentioned, would it be okay to use the raw sugars such as turbinado sugar like the brand, sugar in the raw? ... from natural cane sugar... honey in my yogurt and hot teas, so is that acceptable for folks who have candida yeast in their blood. according to what I've been reading......only stevia or xylitol are okay for folks w/ candida issue.     there goes the agave nectar. but when your candida is under control, have a look at the agave. it's good!!!  
And I have been feeling quite fatigued and tired and the DOM said that yeast in your blood could make one fatigued as yeast feeds on your blood cells.yes, candida can make you feel fatigued and beyond. do a search on google for candida and really read up on it. it's some nasty stuff!  





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Wow.. Italybound.. not even vegi glycerine when dealing with candida, huh?
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is that right? no veg glycerine until the candida is gone?  


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I would recommend the probiotic by Dr.D and possibly even the pylora.  If you can get someone to muscle test you after buying them, to see how much you need.  Some ND's or chiros's can do this.  

As far as I know, any sugar, will feed the candida.  Even fruits.  But, it's hard not to eat anything.  I would eat as little sugar as possible and get definitely introduce good flora to your gut.  Probably more than just the yogurt somehow.  Also, you may want to check you PH levels.  I think the bad guys like to live if you're off balance.  Too acidic or too alkali.  You can get these strips you pee on and read the colors.  I'm not sure where you get them, as my Dad is the one that bought them.  But if you google it, you can probably find them.

Hope that helps.


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Wow.. Italybound.. not even vegi glycerine when dealing with candida, huh?


oopsy, forgot about that one.......that might be okay to use. will have to see if I can look that up. I have lost the password to my ebook, so will post when I find it.  
Whew!! found it.......It says....
"Avoid sweets, cakes, cookies, pastries, and junk food (potato chips, sweetened drinks, and doughnuts). Do not be fooled by natural sugars such as fructose, sucrose, raw sugar, organic sugar, honey, or molasses. Sugar is sugar.
Avoid all forms of sugar and foods which contain them, such as:
Molasses and sugar syrups
 Milk sugar (lactose) from milk products (yogurt, cheese, cream, milk)
 Honey
 Maple syrup
 Sugar substitutes
 Some canned food
 Bakery goods (cake, candy, cookies, muffins, pies)
 Alcoholic drinks
 Fruit sugar from grapes, melons and other high sugar foods
 Fruit juices and some vegetable juices
"

I will try to look thru it some more on Thursday. I'm spending the day w/ my granddaughters tomorrow, going to chiro, looking at chairs (hopefully), then work before bed, so my day will be full up.
So far inconclusive above vegi glyc, but I'm pretty sure I read that xylitol and stevia were ok. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.  




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veg glycerine is fine to use.


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I just don't know if it's completely good for you to totally stay away from sugars.  I did it too for awhile, but dang.  I would think one needs some energy from that.  Plus, the dairy has a tenancy to regulate blood sugar.  At least in my blood type and for me.


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I just don't know if it's completely good for you to totally stay away from sugars.  I did it too for awhile, but dang.  I would think one needs some energy from that.  Plus, the dairy has a tenancy to regulate blood sugar.  At least in my blood type and for me.


I didn't have the energy of a wet noodle when I first started on the Candida diet. Eating small, frequent, compliant meals is what helped my energy level - not sugar or carbs in any form.

This is straight from one of the books written by Dr. Orian Truss who studied the yeast problem beginning in the early sixties:

Certain elements in the diet appear to favor the growth of Candida albicans in the body.  Many foods have a high content of the class of foods known as carbohydrates.  These are the starches and sugars, and yeasts multiply rapidly when they are available.  In contrast, proteins and fats are less well utilized by fungi.  Decreased availability of carbohydrates slows the rate of multiplication of yeast cells and thus should reduce the amount of yeast products entering the bloodstream.  Also, foods that have an unusually high content of yeast or mold often cause an increase in allergic symptoms as well as in intestinal gas and bloating.  The most troublesome are the fermented beverages (especially wine and beer), aged cheeses, mushrooms, vinegar and breadstuffs with a high yeast content.

The obsession with trying to figure out a way to introduce sugar or carbs into the diet is part and parcel of the addiction Candida creates for its survival! It is a symptom. (BTW, I am not saying that veggie glycerine is bad for you at all!)It is better, though, to become obsessed with proteins and live foods - eaten whenever you need them. Of course, this is not a forever diet - it is only until the Candida is beaten down to a tolerable level and the immune system is able to do its job. Understanding more about how Candida works makes the diet so much easier for you. Imagine! Even back then Dr. Truss was writing about how the genes play a role in this problem! Fascinating! Dr. Truss saved my life!! Dr. D. has helped make it amazing!
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I'm just glad I can eat fruit now.  When I was killing candida I  only ate cranberries, frozen, lemons, limes and blueberries.  For like 2-3 months or more.  Now I'm eating my Nomad fruits with seemingly no ill effect to candida.


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I can't say enough good stuff about Dr. D's PolyFlora.  When I started taking that I started noticing a difference.  I've been on the most expensive probiotics I could buy off and on (mostly on) for a good bit of my life.  I had yeast infections from early childhood and my mother would give me probiotics.  I just kept taking them as I grew up even though they didn't really do much.  PolyFlora works.  Die-off is terrible.  But it's worth it.


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Hello all BTD's:
I promised that I would let you all know about the results of my dried blood cell analysis, well it wasn't too good, I tested positive for the following; I have free radicals going on and cellualr stress damage in my reproductive and other bodily organs. She reccommeded an antioxidant program as well as a detox program. This DOM is located quite a ways from where I live and with the price of gas staggering, I can't keep driving that distance all the time to go up there, I figure it's about 5-6 miles away. So, I know a friend of mine who is a certified natural health practitioner and she sells good quality all natural food supplements and she has an office closer to my area and does the urine and saliva tests to determine pH levels, and the DOM said that I could do my own program provided I do a retest in 3 mos. So, I am going to call her to let her know about the results(the DOM will also send them to me as well.) and set up a time that I can talk to her and go over the results and she if can come up with a good reccommendation for me, I was on her urine and saliva test program one time before when she first tested me and she gave me some good quality supplements to take and I felt pretty good when I was on them. So, will see what happens. Cause I know at this rate, I will definitely need some nutritional help, I have been feeling really fatigued and lousy, and hardly any energy to do anything. So, hope my friend can help me out. Plus my digestive system has been in peril cause of the cellular stress damage, so will probably need some good enzymes.
Anyone ever had this kind of problem, if so, please elaborate and let me know.
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all the same, try staying as compliant as possible....
keep u posted on your next results.


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footprints, thanks for posting re: your dead blood cell analysis. Reminds me I need to do that too. How did you find your person who did yours?



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Hi,
If you have a yeast overgrowth then you shouldn't use agave. I'd use xylitol or stevia. Hope this helps.  

Steve


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I thought xylitol was made from corn.


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I thought xylitol was made from corn.


some xylitol is made from corn, some from birch tree. the only way to know for sure is to call the company, unless it's stated on the packaging.



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Xylobrit make or obtain xylitol and theirs comes from fruits, vegetables and hard woods like, in this case, the birch tree. It has a blood sugar rating of around 7 / 100 so its way better than fructose and helps promote the enamel in teeth, suitable for pregnant mums, benefits the production friendly bacteria etc etc. I am suffering with a yeast overgrowth also and have had a top British nutritionist give me the go ahead with this product, what other brands of xylitol are like I'm afraid I can't say - such as Xylosweet by Higher Nature.
Hope this helps,

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For Xylosweet, http://www.xlear.com/xylosweet/faq.aspx:

Quoted Text
Where does it come from?
Corncobs and birch trees are the main sources for commercially produced xylitol. However, there are no residual corn products in the xylitol.


I tried some Xylosweet for the first time yesterday.  It looks like sugar, and tastes like sugar with a slight "cool" overtone.  The nice lady at the health food store gave me three sample packets to try before buying any!  I am going to buy a bag of this stuff, since the agave isn't as good as I thought for those treating yeast overgrowth.
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mattamal sent me some info on nettle root's action against candida. I googled it and came up w/ this page of info:
http://www.google.com/search?h.....+candida&spell=1

thanks matt..............nice to see you posting.......this should've been you.  



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I keep saying I'm not going to be astonished at the multitude of ailments a single herb/supplement will combat, but using nettle for candida is certainly a new one for me. And I am astonished. Again. I have been taking nettle for at least ten years, and it is wonderful for mild seasonal allergies to certain blooming shrubs, etc.. It helps the aching as well as other symptoms of these allergies. Which may simply mean nettle keeps down candida and the mayhem it causes in a zillion different ways.
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HFS doesn't carry the root, only the leaves.


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HFS doesn't carry the root, only the leaves.


I'll ask mattamal where he got his. Will post, unless he does.



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I get my stiging nettle root in bulk at a local health food stores. They have it with the bulk teas.

You can also get it online:
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