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Azure Agony
Saturday, January 26, 2008, 11:25pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hello everyone - hope you are all doing well,

I have a couple of questions :

1) Even though neutral grains are supposed to be limited for type O people, eg 1-6 portions per week, does that include rice dream, the drink? (or any carb rich drink) I drink it quite regularly on top of my neutral grains portions. Looking at it logically I reckon that it should count somewhat. I have also noticed that even eating the "right" grains liberally still contributes a little to weight gain. I guess they are unfriendly - period.  

2) Any feedback please from anyone who have tried the er4yt supplements ? I am thinking about the protein shake, multivitamins and the lectin blockers for starters.

Many thanks all.
Keep well.

Steve.


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Hi!  I am a non-secretor and thus more sensitive to weight gain from grains. If I want to lose weight I go grain free for a while and watch any sugars, even too much fruit.  I have used the protein powder for breakfast smoothies.  I like it.  I also like the Probiotics, Deflect and the B12 supplement. Also, the Proberry helps keep my immune system strong during flu season.  I never get a flu shot and it has been a long time since I have had the flu.
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1) Even though neutral grains are supposed to be limited for type O people, eg 1-6 portions per week, does that include rice dream, the drink? ...I reckon that it should count somewhat. I have also noticed that even eating the "right" grains liberally still contributes a little to weight gain. I guess they are unfriendly - period.  
2) Any feedback please from anyone who have tried the er4yt supplements ? I am thinking about the protein shake, multivitamins and the lectin blockers for starters.


1.) yes, nut and grain milks count toward your servings of those per week. Sad, idn't it?      And yes, grains are fabulous for putting the weight on O's.  
2.) you can't go wrong w/ the Deflect, so I'd def recommend that. all the supps from NAP are great. I use the Redoxa alot lately it seems. For respiratory issues. Proberry for immune strength. Astragulus for the same, tho you'll have to get that at your local HFS. The protein shake, I'm personally not crazy about, but others like it. That will be a matter of personal taste I think.  



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Hello,

me again...I should have also mentioned that trying the maximum portion recommendations for O which is 6 portions does sometimes leave me feeling a little light headed, even O's need glucose, the most efficient fuel available - especially for the brain.

Anyone experience similar symptoms on low carbs please ?

I suppose the lowest carbs guideline (eg having the minimal 1 portion per week) would need much higher good fats and proteins.
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I suppose the lowest carbs guideline (eg having the minimal 1 portion per week) would need much higher good fats and proteins.


lots of good beef for you and good oils......eeov and walnut. and yummy ghee....    



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Thank you for your replies, so quick!  Now that is service!

Steve.


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Thank you for your replies, so quick!  Now that is service!


you'll find that a lot here   



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Steve, you can also get carbs from sweet potato, banana and other starchy foods.
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Azure Agony
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Hi, thanks, yep - I like my sweet potatoes and parsnips. I've started making soups with lots of veg and high protein beans like soya beans and also for protein I've included mushrooms. A bit of yeast free stock and bingo! delicious.

S.


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i get low serotonin happening after 10 deays on no grains... its always about 10 days which i find amazing

i will start craving all the badies and yes, until now glitch big way... i am going to tryt supplement with l tryptophane which has helped in the past
before the cravings i will not be able to sleep all night without waking and craving fruits

i am totally sensitive and yes, cant do grains and fruit unless i really wanna put on weight and you can even watch me do it

i didnt know nut milks are a watch out too... havnt had them that often, is that because of the agave nectar? any experiences

i have also been contemplating protein powder... do you guys do rice for that? i cant do soy and have also seen carob and chickpea
but that rice stuff, its not with carbs anymore, right so is that ok for you b nonnies?

its so amazing to read about people with same experiences
for me o nonnie is big bussiness, i stack on and loose weight in no time

RH Teacher, can you tell me a bit about your thoughts on supplements please and how are you doing with bananas?
i have started to take multi bs, extra b6 and 12
i am very curious to find out about Probiotics and what is Deflect???

greetings to you all!!!

ps: no idea why but roasted dandelion and chicorree really help me with cravings... any thoughts?


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nut milks are a watch out

very high in calories......actually a handful is more than enough for a day....
a glass of nut milk would have that amount of nut or more.....

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Looooooooooove the lectin blocker. Love it. Keep it in my purse for surprises and at home as part of my supp routine. Love it!

The multis were good, but I didn't really notice much from them. My mother did not like the protein powder at all. I'm against protein powder, personally, I eat enough meat/egg I don't need powdered stuff in my smoothie.

And yes, many of us O's don't do well with the grains. I'd be one of them. I'm actually trying to stick to the GTD listed superfood grains for my portions, but tonight I breaded a turkey breast with some kamut and spelt bread crumbs I had. (AND, I enjoyed it very much. Yay BTD, phbbbt to GTD! )
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I'm actually trying to stick to the GTD listed superfood grains for my portions,


so are you an Expluntherer or not?
lol


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you, kinda havnt gotten to the GTD yet... how do you get there

its odd cause for some reason i just kinda... maybe i am not to supposed to run into it for some reason? no idea
its odd really

when i looked at the nut milks the fat or calories semmed to be alright... maybe i double check

still cant figure out the whole lecitin blocker thing
a freind of mine who studies nutrietion in the us mentioned that that is what your brain seriously needs

anybody got any rice protein powder thoughts?
i am just relaly not good with the meat thing at the moment

i do have seaweed and fish but i think the meat (energy wise) might take a little getting used to


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so are you an Expluntherer or not?
lol


Oh, I am expluntherer all right- I'm all O baby! I' doing a low GI version of BTD. And LOVING it
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Narra, you say you don't know about eating meat, you don't eat carbs....what do you eat?
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well, :p

i eat mainly veggies, lots of seaweed
salad till there is no tomorrow
fish
soups
hardly any fruit really

when i was in europe i turned yellow (not all of me :p) from all the veggies (vim a) and too little sunlight

the meat things just tricky
with carbs i meant grains obviously

i do love sprouts too

when i get cravings it helps me to eat onion soup and fennugreek (spelling?)... which if you google the nutritional facts makes sense... insulin etc


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you, kinda havnt gotten to the GTD yet... how do you get there

Narra, you could do the test first to find out whether the BTD or GTD is better for you. If the BTD is better for you, it will save you the money for the GTD book.
The test is here: http://www.dadamo.com/wordpress/?p=102

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fenugreek helps balance blood sugar.....


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I have just learned about a berry named Acai. Is this good or beneficial for type O? It has some benefits that I heard about that held reduce cholesterol, blood thinning qualities that might be beneficial.
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you are right about the fenugreek lola and i didnt read that, i craved it as well as cooked red onions . i always do when i detox.

as with the BTD and GTD, i have done the test before and the result is GTD

now, i did not hear or read about the BTD until... not that long ago

I have had messy bussiness with my eating for 12 years and slowly but surely figured out the BTD without even knowing it exists

even more so... when i did run into it i was 100% certain i was o- even- just from what i knew about my weight gain and intolerance/ allergy stuff already
a doctor told me i cant be o since my parents are a and b

i got the blood test, i am o-

to me its not about a biook or philosophy but what readlly works for me. i have never really gone by any diet as such other than what i know about my body anyhow

have you guys heard about the ayurvedic herb for non red meat o's?
i bought it yesterday to try. nobody knew about that particular function, curious if anybody had got experience.

ps: where do they have tests for your GTD? anybody knows?

I do usually also try to stick to estrogen friendly foods...


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I have just learned about a berry named Acai. Is this good or beneficial for type O? It has some benefits that I heard about that held reduce cholesterol, blood thinning qualities that might be beneficial.


Hi seriop, welcome!

Acai is fine. It is neutral at worst and beneficial at best.  

Are you type O? You can display a type O avatar by going to the member center and selecting one. Other personal info may also be entered there if you wish.

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ayurvedic herb for non red meat o's?

Coleus forskolin:included in certain protocols, too
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/archive-112004.html
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where do they have tests for your GTD?


http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=GenoTypeDiet

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hey guys, i just got coleus the other day

nobody seems to have heard about it at all in realation to BTD

so far i cant really say if its doing anything
been eating lots of fish


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