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Nic4Health
Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 2:11am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi there! I am new to the boards, and this WOE. I have been a low carber with much success for years, on and off. I am presently about 20lbs overweight, but am now more focused on health and weightloss, not yo-yoing.

I feel like there is not a way to actually lose weight without deprivation. So, i have the books Cook Right for your type, from a friend who gave it to me. It has a brief explanation of the diet, a extensive list of foods for my type, etc.

Is it actually possible to lose weight eating this way? IF so, am i missing something, b/c it seems like a very unstructured Way of eating, ... and im nervous about eating spelt flour, some sugar, etc. Although, if my body agrees with it, perhaps i will lose. But, it seems too good to be true for some reason.

I am a Type- O (i dont know for sure if i am O+ or not), but is there any special way i should eat to specifically loose weight? Or do i just eat according to the food list and it comes off?

Thanks, i am a person who likes a lot of structure, and am worried that i will fail on this WOE. But, if in the end, i lose, and get healthy, and can stay on it, I would rather take this route!

Thanks
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Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 2:26am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Welcome to the forums.  You've come to the right place.  There are many here to can attest to losing weight on this program, even Type O's.

Have you read any of Dr. D's books besides Cook Right 4 Your Type?  And, do you have any other health issues besides just needing to lose weight?  

And, how you approach the program is up to you.  Some dive right in and start the program cold turkey, others ease into it.  There is no "right or wrong" way to start.  What is key, is avoiding the avoids for you type, especially in the beginning.

Please keep asking questions.  We are all here to help support each other in this new way of living and eating.  I'm sure there will be other O's who will jump in and help get you started.  But in the mean time, welcome!


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Lloyd
Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 2:55am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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One of the great side effects of following the diet is that you tend to wind up at a good weight, whether you need to gain or lose. Lots of people have lost lots of weight.

Follow the diet, including suggested excersize!
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im not sure what it is like for o's, but as a b, i found i started losing weight as soon as i cut out all of the major avoids (chicken, wheat, corn, etc...) at first, it was very hard for me to comprehend how it was possible, but it honestly does work. i have lost almost 30 pounds in about half a year and like i said before i bought my first size 2 pants not to long ago, its crazy!!!!! not only that, but YOU DO NOT DEPRIVE YOURSELF!!!!! when you eat the right foods for your type, you will feel amazing, i swear just give it a chance, you will be so thankful, dont let anyone stop you, even if they say "you eat weird" they will look at you in 6 months and be jealous!
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A few years ago now, my husband brought Eat Right For Your Type into our house. After reading it, we put it aside and thought it was just too strict and too whacko for us to follow.

The hubby picked it up again four years ago and, because of his obesity, thought that it couldn't hurt to give it a try. He's an O and was a vegetarian at the time.

He followed it, slowly easing into it over a couple of months. At first I was really angry with him because I had to change the way I cooked to suit him. I thought it was insane to give up so many foods - where would you get the necessary vitamins and minerals from for good health?

Well, he proved me wrong. He lost over 50kg (110lb) and is now much healthier. No more morbid obesity. He has put a bit back on recently, but knows why - he's not been exercising as much as he should be, and he still has coffee here and there.

It's been the best thing he's ever done for himself. And with his success, I decided to give it a go. And I've lost weight without trying too hard while at the same time eating very well. I think it's that we've both shed alot of processed foods. Epicurus was right - simple food is the best way to eat.

As an O, you'll have to change the way you exercise - a walk may be nice, but a jog will be better. Eat a piece of steak with salad and vegetables. Avoid milk and milk-related products. Say no to bread and pasta. Snack on beneficial fruits and nuts. Cut down on processed and sugar-laden foods.

A helpful hint is to eat slower, putting your fork down between each mouthful and savouring the flavours. Giving your stomach time to register that it's full is important, as well as being better for your digestion.

It's not quite a diet as such, because you're not told how much to eat when. They're more like guidelines.

If you have ever followed Weight Watchers, treat it like the Core Plan system - eat three meals a day, allowing yourself as much as you need to be comfortably full, and have (BTD compliant) snacks two or three times a day.

Exercise regularly, making sure, as an O, that you get into a sweat and that your heart is pumping well.

I hope that helps.
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Nic4Health
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Thanks! My problem is that I was successful on low carb, but yo-yoing a LOT. I did Weight watchers a while ago (points) but that was before I ate strictly organic and very health conscious, so i tended to eat too much garbage, imo.

I just noticed from that Video on youtube that he has a practice in CT??! I live just over the border in NY, wow !! I wonder how hard it is to book an appt at his office?

Anyhow, this is really neat, i cant wait to get my book.
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Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 3:09pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Nic4Health...welcome to the forum and the BTD/GTD way of life.  

Yes, this way of eating really works.  I have lost 80 lbs. (as of this morning) doing this for the past six and a half years.  Keeping away from the wheat, corn, dairy, sugar (most times ) and pork (and coffee) have been the best for me.  Doing the exercises for the O are a must as it gets the stress out of our bodies.  We really need to sweat to do that.  It feels sooooo good.  Even if you don't feel like doing them.  As grooviechick pointed out...eating slowly for us is so important as we tend to wolf things down.  Especially when hungry.  That stomach acid needs food and needs it NOW.   Don't forget to get your good fats and oils in, keep up on the fluids and enjoy this way of eating.   Ask any questions you like...we all love to give back...and keep us posted on your progress.

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Mayflowers
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Sigh, losing weight is not easy for this A.  I bought these over the counter Fuco Thin pills and I figured, they're seaweed can't be bad for an A. My weight went up instead of down. un..believable.
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Some of us benefit from structure in the form of Weight Watchers which I use.  I select foods from my BTD/GTD food lists and use the points system to manage quantities.  If you track portions per day it would probably be just as effective.

At WW, I use a few more points than they recommend.  I'm happy with slower, gradual weight loss.  This way I have not felt deprived or gotten to a point of hunger where I would risk going into the binge.


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Mayflowers
Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 6:15pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I don't do well on WW. I got hypoglycemic counting points and the other method is too low fat for me. I need at least a tablespoon of oil a day..
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Mayflowers, that's why I use Core. I found that with Points I was always hungry. I was stressed about going over my points (counting points/counting calories, they're both the same thing really) and worried about not losing weight - everything As are supposed to avoid doing, according to Dr D!  

Core is working well for me in conjunction with the BTD because I'm not really thinking about how many points this is worth, or measuring how much I can eat. I take one meal at a time and make it compliant. I have ignored their oil limit, I eat chocolate if I really feel like it (if I deprive and deprive, I end up scoffing heaps of it) and am still losing weight. I just try and walk every day, and eat until I'm comfortably full.

I can't wait to tweak it with the GTD.  
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Mayflowers
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Oh! Core that's the name of it. Grovie, How much oil do you allow yourself a day? I have a chocolate issue. I crave it if I'm not getting enough iron, that and red wine. I'm taking Fergon, it's plant based iron.
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Mayflowers, that's why I use Core.

I loved CORE when they came out with it. Could you tell me how you are incorporating BTD with CORE? I think it might help me get the portion part down a bit better. I feel like BTD is a major step up from CORE but doing it made it easier to adjust to BTD.



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There is no portion sizes in Core. You eat till you're satisfied
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That's right, Mayflowers. At lunch, for example, I fill my plate with salad or hot roasted vegies (pumpkin, carrots, spanish onions) and tamari-marinated tofu (fried gently in some e.v olive oil), maybe a bit of spelt bread (with a thin scraping of ghee), and eat slowly. I take my time, and once my stomach says "enough", then that's it. I stop. If I have any leftovers, I put it in the fridge for later. I might have it as a snack in the late afternoon, when I feel that I am at my hungriest (that's a bad time for me).

If I'm going to be out (when I go to uni, for example), I take it with me in a container or I make spelt sandwich with fresh bocconcini (not Core, so I count it) and basil or coriander.

I tend to have a larger breakfast and smaller dinner, and snack on a piece of fruit (I'm in love with fresh dates at the moment, and they satisfy my sweet tooth so I tend not to reach for the chocolate) or some spelt toast with peanut butter, or some almonds and dried figs.

If I think I'm on a diet, I know I will binge on garbage. If I have a bad day, I wake up the next day and start again.

As for e.v olive oil, I just use it. I probably use a few tablespoons in total, but because it's a beneficial I don't really think about too much.
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Nic4Health
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Great, Thank you so much all, what a warm welcome !

Debra, do you follow anything specific? Do you avoid carbs mostly? I see you try to keep sugar out, and do you have any certain structure?

I feel like i need to wolf food down, too.. then you still think you need to eat, since your done so fast, and still ravenous, .

This all seems to make so much darn sense... I went walking today w/ DH who is type O also. And, i told him the bit someone mentioned about how walking tends not to cut it for us O's.... and i honestly always thought i was nuts, since sometimes ill go out for a walk and break into spontaneous sprint b/c i cant help myself- LOl!! Now, i know im not insane - haha.

Cool stuff.

Now, does anyone eat out ever? Chinese food? Is that ok? What about Rice, or fried rice? and things like that- i would think that is OK? Or no b/c its processed and cooked in greasy oils, etc? I would imagine its a no-no for WL. I guess i just have to read the book. I might break and have to buy it sooner, since my library has it out.

Thanks all, great forum!!

OH, ps- one more question for now, that phrase in my Avator: Winter: hidden potential.. .- What does that mean? lol
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chinese food is difficult....weird oils, cornstarch an a bunch of little things...
an O is better off in a steak house, sub rice for potato...big salad.
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Make your own steak strips with vegs and brown rice... more meat than rice. 3/4 steak and vegs 1/4 or less on the rice.

Add a free day a week when starting that's what I did.

It's funny you A's have a problem with staying full... that's what my A friend is saying.  He has been eatting with me and he keeps saying he is always hungry... I am sure it's because of the salad... what type of foods make A's full?  This guy does not have a weight problem.  But he is making me go to the store every other day...

His favorite fill up foods are Grits and Cottage Cheese...


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There is no portion sizes in Core. You eat till you're satisfied


My guess is if you used only GTD SFs and generally followed portion guidelines you wouldn't need to track points etc.  If you're less compliant you won't get the full benefit so might need some external control.  I'm not usually totally compliant, so the points help me.  Just points doesn't work.  I do have to put some thought in food selection and find meals that don't make me hypoglycemic as well.

On core, many whole foods are unlimited, but starches are limited and oil is limited to 2 tsp. per day.  You have 35 points a week to use for things not on the core list or extra oil if 2 tsp is not enough.


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Wow, they changed Core. When I tried it, no oil was allowed at all. No bread either.
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There is no portion sizes in Core. You eat till you're satisfied


Sorry I worded that wrong. I was wondering how you worked BTD into the CORE. Did you USE the BTD portion sizes and amounts or did you go by the CORE of eat til satisfied?


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Wow, they changed Core. When I tried it, no oil was allowed at all. No bread either.


A lot of the different leaders did it different ways but oil is one of the 8 essentials of WW. They also allowed Whole Wheat bread and pastas in the first CORE. I understand it is still the same. But again different leaders did not always follow the teachings as given.

We have a chinese place that makes Dieters Delight. Steamed Chicken with your choice of steamed veggies. Sauce on the side if you want it and real brown rice not the browned rice stuff many places have.


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It's funny you A's have a problem with staying full... that's what my A friend is saying.  He has been eatting with me and he keeps saying he is always hungry... I am sure it's because of the salad... what type of foods make A's full?  This guy does not have a weight problem.  But he is making me go to the store every other day...

His favorite fill up foods are Grits and Cottage Cheese...


I have found it difficult, but I try to eat a fair bit of tofu or tempeh to help fill me up, and steamed rice is also good for that (or stir-fried with some vegetables). I think bread is important, but of course it has to be compliant bread. Rye and spelt are filling.

DRGNWNG1 - I don't use the BTD portion sizes that much, I tend to use the CORE system of eating until I'm comfortably full (not overstuffed).

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