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kevinmcl
Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 3:14pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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... cottage cheese?

As you can see from the icon, I'm type O.
I'm also not extremely compliant, but I'd like to improve. My breakfasts alternate between protein shakes and eggs-with-meat (I won't say what that meat often is, but you can guess ), but occasionally I'll have a bowl of oatmeal. To that, I add dried and/or fresh fruit and (drum roll) cottage cheese for a bit of protein. I'd add nuts, but I'm currently wearing orthodontic braces and other hardware that doesn't like nuts.

Anyway, the benefit (aside from the protein content) is that the cottage cheese is very mildly flavored, and so doesn't detract from what it's added to. The texture also doesn't detract from the good old bowl-of-porridge experience.

The bad part, of course, is that it's dairy - forbidden for us type O people.

So, what could I substitute that would be approximately as high in protein content, as innocuous in flavor and texture... and not forbidden?   I've got egg protein powder, and I've tried mixing some of that, and the oatmeal turns into a brick.  I somehow can't enjoy a bowl of oatmeal that I have to cut with a knife.  Ahem...

Suggestions?  Profound thoughts and observations?

If there was such a thing as commercially available goat-cottage-cheese, I'd try that, but I've never found any.

I found some instructions for making my own, but it's for farmer-type folk who are willing to tend to it for four or five hours. So that won't be happening, especially since I'm not clear whether goat-cottage-cheese would actually be BTD acceptable.  I'd earlier thought I was getting away with murder by having goat cheddar and goat blue and other tasty forms, but then I was informed that the OK-for-type-O goat cheese is only the original French style "chevre" soft cheese.  All others are just as deadly poison as any cow-milk cheese. Drat.

So, what's the good word?

Cheers,

Kevin
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you could try leaving your cottage cheese draining in the fridge, overnight.......that would get rid of the excess whey and the result is a type of fresh cheese which is neutral if you re an O with no dairy problems......

put some weight on it, too!
a cheese cloth is advised.....
how about some real mozzarella?


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Is farmers cheese neutral for O's?  If it is you can buy that in the market. It has very little flavor but you can add just about anything to it.
  it resembles cottage cheese.


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Hi Lola and Kevin,
I've been looking for some alternate to cottage cheese to continue on the Budwig cottage cheese - flax oil regime.  Currently I've been using adzuki beans and black beans that work pretty well with a good  hand blender.  But is that all it takes - that is to drain the whey to make cottage cheese neutral?

If that is the case then I can alternate with the cottage cheese if my secreter test comes out Se, which I'm not really expecting since many of the foods that are forbidden to nonnies but not secreters, seem to give me slightly suspect feelings.  Not like cherries and blueberries I guess, is the best way to describe it.

Thanks,

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if you do a search, you will come up with those suggestions done by Heidi in the old boards.....makes sense, if you get rid of all the whey.


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Kevin,
I know you're looking for a bland substitute, however, would you try feta in your oatmeal? I don't like my oatmeal sweetened so I'll often add crumbled feta - it melts and adds the saltiness and the dairy flavour that I adore. For me,  it's a marriage made in heaven. BTW I have this for lunch/dinner.
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If you want bland, I would suggest goat or sheep feta that has been purchased in a solid block, rinsed well in running water and kept in a container of fresh water.

Also, Chevrie is quite good.  Have you tried it?

And Mozzarella is very bland.  Even better is the fresh mozzarella balls that are sold in water.

You have a few choices.  I would consider even drained cottage cheese to be a last choice after all of these.  




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...  But is that all it takes - that is to drain the whey to make cottage cheese neutral?


Wow, oh, wow, I hope this is so. I used to eat cottage cheese, fruit and nuts for breakfast all the time prior to BTD. If all I have to do is drain it, wow, that would be soooooooo great. Of course that is when I can have dairy again. Doing a little 'investigation' right now.  



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lucky you if you can have dairy again!
for me it s a distant memory!! lol
even for secretor Os, check out dairy in the health series books......not a pretty sight!


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... cottage cheese?




So, what could I substitute that would be approximately as high in protein content, as innocuous in flavor and texture... and not forbidden?  
So, what's the good word?

Cheers,

Kevin

Hi Kevin,
I can't chew properly at the moment for some dental reasons, but I find that almond meal is a great, bland filler for all sorts of uses, and you will find that it is neutral for us all as well as having good calcium.
All the best,
Jenny




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I crumble some tofu and mix in Tofutti brand sour cream (has a couple of thickener avoids).  I make it very occasionally to stuff rice pasta (Tinkyada big shells).  Also, I accidentally made some the other day.  I was making almond-based mayonnaise according to some directions posted somewhere on this site (sorry, I don't know where to find it again) and blended it too long.  It turned into cottage/ricotta-looking "cheese."  


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Kevin,

   Fellow Canadian and lucky guy that you are to still be having cottage cheese!!!  Western Creamery sells packages of dry curd cottage cheese that would suit your purpose perfectly.  I used to love to have half a package in the morning for breakfast mixed with fruit [peaches and pears are heavenly] and walnuts and a couple of eggs on the side.  It's sold in 250 ml packages and contains very little liquid [whey]. I don't know for sure that you can get this brand in Ottawa but there should be some kind in your grocery stores I imagine.  I believe it's what ER4YT refers to as farmers cheese.  And you can get it low fat or 10% fat.  

Good luck with the braces.   Check your health or bulk food store for ground nuts...they might be less of a problem and you can sprinkle them on lots of things!


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lucky you if you can have dairy again!
f... check out dairy in the health series books......not a pretty sight!


  oh poo Lola, you're right. thanks for the reminder  



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sorry!


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Breakfast was very difficult for me for a very long time, until I figured out on my own that I needed protein.

I can't offer a suggestion for a replacement for cottage cheese.  But you alluded to a meat product that I suspect is an avoid.  I have found frozen organic breakfast sausages made from chicken and turkey (two separate products, actually.)  I've not found organic beef breakfast sausages, so I still eat the preservative-laden stuff.  My wife found beef bacon once.  It was wonderful!

Another option is to try Ezekiel cereal.  It resembles Grapenuts in texture, only a lot worse, if you can imagine that.  Arrowhead Mills makes a variety of gluten- and corn-free cereals, such as Spelt, Amaranth, Maple Buckwheat.  But these don't work as well for me (too high on the GI, perhaps?), and so I add lots of chopped walnuts, or I mix the Ezekiel cereal with it.  Instead of cow's milk, I use either Soy milk or Rice milk, making sure the product has no Carageenan.

Some other breakfast ideas that might work for you:
  • Ezekial toast with almond butter
  • Waffles or pancakes made from buckwheat flour or rice flour plus the above mentioned sausage (to get away from eggs).
I do also include a bit of banana with breakfast sometimes.

HTH!


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Dairy -- nature's laxative for Type Os


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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well, certainly not for me. i get totally bloated, the worst fluid retention and my hormones just... go...totally mad


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I'd add nuts, but I'm currently wearing orthodontic braces and other hardware that doesn't like nuts.


Have you experimented with smooth nut butter - that goes very well with any hot breakfast cereal and should be fine enough to not be an issue with your hardware...
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I tried goat cheese - I think it was the mozzarella - for the first time a few weeks ago. It have a very bold powerful taste that I just couldn't get past. I would love to eat goat cheese but was wondering if there was a less powerful tasting kind out on the market. Does anyone else have this problem with the goat cheese taste being to strong. Plus it is to expensive to just go around buying different kinds to try.

Otherwise I will stick to my soya kaas with avoids.
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BuzyBee,
try get a hold of the GT book!
and also get your secretor status checked....
you might be very surprised.


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