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Jake
Thursday, October 25, 2007, 5:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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A well respected cancer writer said that cottage cheese when blended with flax oil as in the Budwig diet for cancer patients or to prevent cancer, will change its character for blood type o's so that it is not considered dairy.  Does anyone know about this?  Thanks in advance for any light on this.

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A well respected cancer writer said that cottage cheese when blended with flax oil as in the Budwig diet for cancer patients or to prevent cancer, will change its character for blood type o's so that it is not considered dairy.  


I do not think that just mixing two food products together is likely to neutralize an avoid.

I used yogurt (still an avoid for an 0) instead of cottage cheese for a while. Budwig used quark which is not quite
the same as yogurt or cottage cheese.

Then I decided that even though yogurt was neutral for me
it caused problems if I consumed it regularly.

I switched to soy yogurt and can tolerate the mixture without adverse affect.

However, if you are an O nonsecretor soy yogurt is probably a bad idea.

Here is a source that says you can use rice milk:

Budwig diet works with rice or soy milk


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Although the Budwig diet may be effective for many, I don't see any way that combining foods would change their nature from avoid to neutral (or beneficial).  But in Dr. D's book on cancer, there are many superfoods listed for preventing and healing from cancer.



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Sun and Kyosha,
Thanks much for your responses.  I guess an acceptable alternative would be to use the rice milk - or the soy if I'm a secreter, unknown at the moment, but I thought the ratios changed for proteins that are not as dense as cottage cheese.  I guess that will become obvious if the oil doesn't fold in at the point I blend, and I'll probably simply adjust the ratios.  One other thought comes to mind - I'm currently using a wonderful new milk from Trader Joe's that is hempmilk - I guess from the same maligned plant that brings us flax seed.  I assume hemp nuts are not the same as flax seeds.  Wonder if that would work.  Then we're talking about a recommended food all the way around for type o's.  Any and all thoughts are appreciated.

Jake in Illinois
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  One other thought comes to mind - I'm currently using a wonderful new milk from Trader Joe's that is hempmilk - I guess from the same maligned plant that brings us flax seed.  I assume hemp nuts are not the same as flax seeds.  Wonder if that would work.  Then we're talking about a recommended food all the way around for type o's.  Any and all thoughts are appreciated.

Jake in Illinois


Hemp and flax are two different plants. Hemp is okay, enjoy. Someone may suggest straining the cottage cheese with cheesecloth to lose most of the whey.

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Lloyd,
I note the support given by this trusted cancer researcher for stating that the cottage cheese is altered in nature is that he knows several lactose intolerant people who do the cottage cheese flax seed oil and have absolutely no problems with the cheese.  

What do you think?  Appreciate any thoughts especially as Dr. Ludwig apparently said yogurt would work, but would take much more yogurt (2 cups for 6 tbsp. flax versus two-thirds of a cup of the cottage cheese.)

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just drain it well to make a ricotta type cheese, fresh cheese, which might be considered neutral for you being a secretor.


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the support given by this trusted cancer researcher for stating that the cottage cheese is altered in nature is that he knows several lactose intolerant people who do the cottage cheese flax seed oil and have absolutely no problems with the cheese.  
Jake


I think that research based on a few anectdotal cases dealing with only one aspect of an issue (lactose) in an unscientific manor (They have no problem? On what criteria?) is simply very poor and makes me suspicious of whatever he is presenting.

I'm not offering judgment of whether or not the method works, I'm offering judgment on the presentation of the evidence and (by implication) the credentials of the presentor.

For an O, cottage cheese has several issues of which lactose is but one. Whey can be tolerated in reasonable (ie small) quantities by healthy individuals. Casein is an issue as well. The part of cheese that offers no problem to an O is the fat! You will need to make your own decision on the issue, there is a fair bit available on the site in blogs and in the forums, plus the archived 'old' forums if you care to search for it (use the search features).


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perhaps a Tbl of ghee with the oil would be a more beneficial approach.


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