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drgnwng1
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I know I am not supposed to have sugar but I react to most faux sugars. I haev major problems with fructose or concentrated fruit sweetners(fructose). I noticed that we are suppose to use agave but I just looked it up and its fructose so I am worried I will get headaches,feel sick and hot red face from using it. Anyone else have fructose issues?
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Hey drgnwng1...I have fructose issues, but then again, I am a nonnie.  Since you seem to have issues with sweetners getting your secretor test done would be a great idea.  Agave nectar...the only way you will know is if you give it a try.  Keep as compliant as you can before you eat it to see what type of reaction you will have and keep as compliant as you can after to help you heal if you do.

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fructose can be extracted from corn, and that type might be the one causing problems.


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D, I am not good with any type of sugar either. I am not familiar with agave nectar (not sure whether we get it in Australia), so I avoid all sugars. I satisfy my taste for sweets by eating fruits (up to 2 serves a day - more is too much for me).
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drgnwng1, if you have a Whole Foods (WF)near you, you can pick up a bottle of agave. If it doesnt agree w/ you, return it w/ no questions asked, even w/o a receipt (tho it's nicer if you do have it). W/O a receipt, they'll give you store credit. If no WF, call any and all HFS and reg stores and see if they carry it and what their return policy is. IF you're interested in trying it that is.  



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You might try vegetable glycerine instead. It is what the original BTD bars were sweetened with and is safe for all types.
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"vegetable glycerine"

Okay I looked this stuff up. It says it comes from Palm or Coconut oil. So if we are not supposed to have these how are we supposed to use this stuff?

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Some foods' status (good, bad, neutral) are changed when the food is processed.  You will notice that olives are bad, olive oil is good.  For some types, whole milk is bad, skim milk is okay.  It all depends.  So palm or coconut oil might be an avoid, but if vegetable glycerin is a derivative, it might be okay.

Agave is technically a fructose, as opposed to sucrose or lactose or any other -ose, but "fructose" as a white sugar-sub is, as was stated, derived from fructose.

My AB daughter gets swollen red eyes when she eats fructose, sugar, honey or maple syrup.  In fact, agave is the only sweetener besides molasses that she can handle (we haven't tried veg glycerin).


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I've used agave nectar and it doesn't cause me any trouble that I've noticed. I didn't try the vegetable glycerine coz it was expensive.


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Vegetable glycerine, even when derived from coconut, is fine for all types. Look on blogger Heidi's site in the archives. The cost of vegetable glycerine varies widely depending on where you buy it. Some people buy it online but as I only bake a few times a year I don't bother.
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I tried a Unibar today. 15mins later I got my fructose red and hot cheeks. I did like it though.
I will keep them for emergencies.
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Here are the Typebase entries for VEGETABLE GLYCERINE and AGAVE SYRUP


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The best thing to do is go sugar/sweetener free.


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All good suggestions. I followed the links Thank you.
Normally a 5lb bag of sugar lasts almost 2 years in my house so I do not use it often. I prefer to use fruits to sweeten.
Now my fruits are being cut so no more bananas sniff sniff.
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Which  means you're prob a nonnie.


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Quoted from Ribbit
Which  means you're prob a nonnie.


Oh no the nonnie threat!
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Well, I don't know - I'm a secretor but I can't handle any sugars at all. Not even fruits.   For me, it's more a matter of still-recovering adrenals & thyroid.
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you mean O-nonnies get the sniffles even from eating a banana?
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http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?45
not necessarily!

even mangoes are ok and other fruits....


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