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Andrea AWsec
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Any tips on making the switch to vegetarianism?
  I don't eat red meat but I do eat chicken.
How did you do it?
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why not stay the way you are and keep on eating your compliant protein occasionally?


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Well I have roasacea and one of the recommendations to help it is to become a vegetarian.
  So I thought I would get more information and see if I could do it.
Or maybe I just need to eat more soy?
Seems that people with rosacea have low estrogen, and soy would increase the estrogen right?
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I'm a veggo - have been for four years or so now. It took me a few months to get in the swing of it but what I did was I found some really nice recipes using tofu, tempeh, lentils and other beans and made up a batch at a time. Then I froze them and brought them out for my dinner.

The rest of my family are not vegetarians so I have to be especially aware of my protein intake. It's been hard as I tend to make food for everyone else and have what's left over of the vegetables. It means I haven't been eating very well and when I made an increased committment to the BTD a few weeks ago, I decided that I was no use to anyone if I was starving my body of vital nutrients.

When I'm out, I tend to eat the vegetarian option, although with my recent exclusion of wheat, this makes it more difficult because most foods for veggos are pasta or bread based. Oh, and laden with cheese! The best foods I have found in this case are Chinese and Thai - rice, vegetables and tofu. It's harder to be strict when you're eating out and I have been known to throw it all to the heavens at midnight when absolutely starving, and had to have a McChicken or something.   There are nice vegetarian restaurants around, too.

If it's a choice now between wheat-laden food or chicken and salad, I'll opt for the latter, even though I am not eating meat for ethical reasons, I'd take that over the wheat, which makes me a) gain weight and b) feel sluggish.

A pet hate of mine is when I tell people I'm a vegetarian and they say, "Oh, but you still eat chicken and fish". No, I don't (unless desperate - see above McChicken comment). A vegetarian eats neither. It's a myth that seems to keep coming up and I feel it is my duty to inform them of the error.    

I think the best thing to do is do your best, use the net for researching good recipes, and don't be too hard on yourself. If you want to eat chicken or fish, then do it.
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Well I have roasacea and one of the recommendations to help it is to become a vegetarian.
  So I thought I would get more information and see if I could do it.
Or maybe I just need to eat more soy?
Seems that people with rosacea have low estrogen, and soy would increase the estrogen right?
Dotte

Soy does have oestrogen, yes. But I haven't heard of meat causing rosacea. I wonder if Dr D is around to answer this one?!

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He did on one of his questions with the answer posted I will try and repost it here. So what I get from this is that people with rosacea have low estrogen.. right?
So I would need higher estrogen and some dairy? He does recommend vegetarianism.
Let me know what you think.





Type A With Occular Rosacea



QUESTION:

I have a common dry eye problem. It is called Occular Rosacea.. The oil glands in my eyes are clogged, thereby producing tears without lipids that easily evaporate. Although, many people suffer from this, there is no known cure nor is there any understanding of what causes it by the medical community. I have a sneaking suspicion that diet is somehow a culprit. I am an A+ type. Can you shed any light on my problem or offer some guidance. Thanks.

ANSWER:

Checking through patient records, there appears to be about a 2:1 rate of rosacea in type A over the other blood groups. Perhaps this represents some element of "tolerance" on the part of type A over the other types with regard for the micro-organisms which tend to be the cause of the problem. In the eye, probably the most common manifestation of rosacea is the presence of chalazia, styes in the eyelids. And when these occur in multiple recurrent forms, very often there is an underlying rosacea. Styes are caused by blocked oil glands in the eyelids. Other symptoms of occular rosacea include oily and crusty eyelids, red rimmed eyes, conjunctivitis as well as burning and tearing.

One association seems to be that rosacea sufferers tend to have low levels of lactoferrin, an iron-binding protein found in tears and other body secretions which has a supressive effect on bacteria and their ability to penetrate the body's barrier defenses; which in your case would be the tears themselves. Lactoferrin is associated estrogen: high levels enhance its activity, low levels suppress it. This explains perhaps why many post menopausal women suffer from dry eye syndrome. There are commercial supplements of lactoferrin, though they are nothing but encapsulated forms of the milk constituents whey and colostrum, both of which can be obtained from a variety of sources. Although dairy can be problematic for type A, these fractions are usually well-tolerated. If you find they are aggravating a mucous condition, you can try taking them with a rennett tablet (remember "Junkett"?) Following the type A diet should be a major help as there are studies indicating that vegetarian diets and fasting seem to have a positive effect on increasing lactoferrin.






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I am not suggesting that meat causes rosacea but that being a veggie is just better overall for me.


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"Although dairy can be problematic for type A, these fractions are usually well-tolerated."  (quoted from Dr. D)
What does this mean?


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Following the type A diet should be a major help

by this I understand he is suggesting you follow the A diet and not exclusively vegetarian.


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"Although dairy can be problematic for type A, these fractions are usually well-tolerated."  (quoted from Dr. D)
What does this mean?


It means in this case, that treatment normally works out okay even though dairy can be bad for A's in general.
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fractions of compliant neutral dairy, ofcourse!


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fractions of compliant neutral dairy, ofcourse!


"though they are nothing but encapsulated forms of the milk constituents whey and colostrum"

Whey is an A secretor avoid.
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