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Afric
Saturday, October 13, 2007, 4:03pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi,
Here comes my second question. I cannot find any organic meat here at all. I do find free range chickens, turkey, grass fed beef and lamb.
Paging through the book (only started yesterday) I see that Dr. Adamo recommands organic meat only
What to eat now? I am O+
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Afric
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Lloyd
Saturday, October 13, 2007, 4:33pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Afric. Welcome!

Free range poultry and grass feed meats are wonderful, enjoy!  


Please visit the member center, where you may choose a Type O avatar that will display on all your posts, making it easier for other to respond to you. You may also input other information such as age, sex, a personal signature or your home city if you choose.

Lloyd

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Afric
Saturday, October 13, 2007, 4:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi Lloyd,

Thanks for your suggestion!

I am glad those meats are fine....wil do some investigation and write to ask about the ostrich meat and other we get here.

I tried to do the Avatar thing. Not sure if I managed
Thanks
Afric
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Lloyd
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You did great!  
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RedLilac
Saturday, October 13, 2007, 4:54pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Go for the free range over grain fed.


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Afric
Saturday, October 13, 2007, 5:30pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Dear Arlene,

Thanks for your comment. And that is just the problem. I see all those free range meats like chicken, turkey, beef . When I read the print it says ALL GRAIN FED.....the beef is running in free grass areas and so is lamb, but I am suer I read that the cows get grain too....
One cannot win... I do not think that lamb eat grains, but then the meat is very fat and not always available as today
I will learn as I go, thanks to all your people.....if things work out, I really would like to know all there is....I have a huge appetite for health information. I must have well over 600 books and even had Dr. Adamo's first book when it came out.
I dusted it off yesterday and bought all the other books I could find
I love to learn, health has always been my number One as I never really was healthy. This may change now
Thanks
Kind regards,
Afric
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Victoria
Saturday, October 13, 2007, 11:37pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Afric,
All we can do is the best we can do.  Organic meat is certainly best, and free-range grass fed is also best for our health.  But as a type O, it's important for you to eat some meat, especially the beneficial ones.  So enjoy your meat and as time goes on, maybe you can locate a source for some free-range and/or organic.



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RedLilac
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 3:14pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I bought a freezer so I could stock up in bulk to get discounts from places like http://www.uswellnessmeats.com/

It is more expensive, but in the long run I figure I'm saving on medical expenses.

Today their newsletter came and this is from it:

The past two weeks have been a most interesting time in the meat business watching the Topps burger recall story unfold into the media.  Due to the massive size of the business, it was not surprising to see major supermarket chains embroiled into the fray as tracing continued out from the origin.

It is very difficult to fathom this went on for a nearly a year before the alarm bell went off.  Some where a critical due diligence step went awry.  Due to miniscule size of of the U.S. Wellness beef processing, one has a very clear window into the system.  Two of our key contract fabrication personnel were even more amazed as they are required to test and hold ground beef before the product moves into the pipeline.  Immediately following slaughter, U.S. Wellness beef is tested twice for ecoli as it moves into the fabrication facility at our expense.  Once a month, both facilities we use are required to send in random test results to USDA.

Fortunately we are dealing with grazing animals on a non starch diet with first stomach pH's hovering around 7 compared to heavy starch diet animals with acidic first stomachs that cater to E. coli 157.   This particular bad bacteria has a low tolerance to pH 7 environs and little chance of survival in the neutral pH climate.

Rest assured we will continue to do our best to put a quality product on your table.  One advantage of being a minute niche in the beef business where we know who is processing our products on a first name basis and have access to them instantly via a  phone call or unannounced visit.


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RedLilac
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 3:22pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I just thought about the fact that you are in South Africa.  Hopefully there is someplace there that has the same type of internet service.  Otherwise just check out your sources of beef and do the best you can.


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Afric
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 4:55pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi all,

Thanks for all the feed back. Woolworths is here the biggest food store which aim is to have all product un sprayed and/or organic.
There is where I buy all my meat and fish even if the price is high.
But my health is a priority, without it I can do nothing....
But the grain fed story is still very much in as their free range chickens and turkey which run free in the day light but get fed also organic grain and pulses.
The beef I can get free range, no hormone or injections and so the lamb

At least I go some choice and organic/ free range omega 3 eggs
I cannot complain. Beside all the organic, un sprayed vegetables and fruit
I must call myslef lucky indeed
I do not have have a deep freezer. But maybe I could find some other source which I need to trust before I buy as it is hard to believe anybody, specially when they are small..one never knows

I give you an example. I have a personal friend who has a small farm. He sells his beautiful meat as he calls it to us if we want. But one day he told me that when there is no longer any grass as in the winter here, they get fed chicken manure and that is what the cows live on for about 3 months till there is grass again.
He says they like it and get very fat.....well, no thanks, I do not want that meat at all....you see what I mean...chicken manure form where????

Woolworth is very, very big here and I do trust them. I asked them questions all the time...and get replies too
Thanks again to all of you for your support
Kind regards,
Feeling somewhat better today
Afric
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Victoria
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Afric,
Just keep doing the best you can and weighing all your options.  Most people can never create the perfect situation for ourselves, and the best any of us can do is to make the best choice we can from the options we have.  It sounds like you are using good reasoning and making wise choices.  Maybe you will come across other farmers in the future who don't feed their animals these horrible waste products.  In the meantime, stick with the organics, even if they have grain to eat.  

Can you find a good source for Omega 3 fatty acids?  That's one of the big reasons for eating grain-free beef.  Is there a source for fatty fish that you could buy to supplement your diet?



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Afric
Sunday, October 14, 2007, 8:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi Victoria,

A quick reply before bed time.
Thanks for all your help first of all

I did not know the omega 3 story relating to the grain eating animals. Thanks for that
We get plenty of salmon here of Norwegian fjords but it also cultivated, but in open sea, so I have been informed after enquiring. We have butter fish, much cheaper and lots of oil (neutral) and trout fresh to but cultivated

Now, you get me.....weighing portions....?????????????????????????????????????no that I can never do again after being most of my live on rrestrictive diets....I can no longer go back to that
I eat as my appetite dictates and I am about at my right weight (50 kg) by eating natural foods
Now, I just want to get healthy....
Good night, must go now
Afric
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Victoria
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No weighing portions for me either.  I love to enjoy my food and too much monitoring can take the joy out of eating.  



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Quoted from Afric
But my health is a priority, without it I can do nothing....

Afric


Afric, I like that line.  You should go to the member center and use this as your signature!  

I do not weigh my portions either.  I don't have time for that stuff.  But Victoria, why not you? You've got the scale above your avatar!!!


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Afric
Monday, October 15, 2007, 8:03pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Thanks Sam for the suggestion.....done!!!

Maybe somebody knows. For years already I get sick from cooked veggies, specially at night. Soup is the worse. They make my eyes puffy specially in the morning. Grains are one of the worst offenders for this.....maybe I was just eating the WRONG ONES.....hope those puffy eyes will get better.
Nobody has in all those years found an answer for it.
I suspect that it is a kind of allergy to cooked grains, but what about the veggies....an allergy to them.?
Hope it sorts itself out now when I am eating the right way
Thanks to all for your support!!!
Afric
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perhaps the seasoning has added citric acid or something......

if you turn up being a nonnie, you might be very susceptible to corn derived products.


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Victoria
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Quoted from jillthepilllady

I do not weigh my portions either.  I don't have time for that stuff.  But Victoria, why not you? You've got the scale above your avatar!!!


Silly me, I should have thought of that one, Jill!    Every time I'm on the Forum, I can weigh my food portions.  Thanks so much for the great idea!  



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Silly me, I should have thought of that one, Jill!    Every time I'm on the Forum, I can weigh my food portions.  Thanks so much for the great idea!  


Now you're thinkin'!!!


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