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tomfluce
Saturday, October 6, 2007, 6:51am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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    The Eat Right For Your Blood Type contains recipes that are neutral for "O's" that use soy milk and other soy products.  My wife is a midwife and she is aware of the literature that shows that soy milk for babies which has been pushed for sometime as an alternative for babies is actually seriously detrimental.  My daughter who lost her thyroid through cancer has seen solid research showing that soy is counterproductive to thyroid functioning.

So I'm wondering if the folks here in the Blood Type community have had any involvement with this issue?

Thanks!
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Saturday, October 6, 2007, 2:15pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi TOm,

It has been extensively discussed. I'm sure someone will point you to the most recent threads on the subject.


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tomfluce
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Thank you Dr. D for the quick response!  

I've done a search here on the blog for "soy, thyroid" and it resulted in zero finds.  I guess I need help in getting the right search words.  

I'm particularly anxious to get some answers because I'm on day 31 of a 40 day fast (with the Jubilee USA campaign to cancel the debt of poor nations) which I'm using to cleanse my body and begin all over with my diet based on the "O" blood type.  

I've done well so far with lowering blood pressure, weight, bloating, pinched nerve.  I'm dreaming of the day when I can start eating!

Thanks again, Tom
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Lloyd
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Hi tomfluce, welcome to the forum!

Drop by the member center and get yourslef a nice blood-type avatar so that we can all identify you easily. You are also welcome to add additional information like a personal signature, your age or your sex. Lots of stuff to learn about the site!

There are many threads dealing with soy. I will direct you to one, LINK HERE

Type O are allowed some soy products (refined soy oil is an avoid for us) but in limited quantities. Type B needs to avoid soy. It's for Type A (and AB) that soy has the most useful qualities.

I'm not aware of the diet recommendations for babies and do not have a copy of Eat Right 4 Your Baby. I'm sure someone else will cover that, as well as expand on my post.

Your search criteria could be modified to be more inclusive. Also search the other boards and not just this (Encyclopedia) one. My link came from the Eat Right board.

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try using the general search button on homepage.....
that takes you to everything written on the boards so far and more!!
http://www.dadamo.com/search.htm
the search button up here is only for these active forum threads actually.

soy should always be no GMO for those types able to have it, and also watch the frequency values given in the book......for Os it will always be a 'legume', so small amounts are fine but not as frequent as for As and AB secretors.

also finding out your secretor status and that of your family members would be advised, since soy becomes an avoid for certain non secretors.


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Some of soy's anticancer effects are due to its role in DNA
methylation. Methylation is one of the ways that genes are
'silenced' and perhaps the most important way that the
environment controls the actions of genes that has yet been
discovered.

methylation of DNA

http://www.innovations-report.com/search/search.php


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tomfluce
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Thanks Lloyd and Lola and Dr. D.  I will get my info into place soon.  I've checked out that first link and that is helpful.  I have known that fermented soy is not the problem.  I'm just studying the various recipes for O's and the beverages that have smoothies look so yummy, but have soy.  Can't do the yogurt smoothies.  I know you can appreciate my frame of mind right now wanting to get back to a strict O diet after doing so well on the fast.  Thanks again!
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have you checked the NAP store?
they have protein powders for each type!


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Hi Lola!
   You are so gracious to help me.  Thanks.  Yes, I did buy the O powder last summer but I was in a hurry, didn't want to bother with doing a blender recipe and let it go.  Thanks for reminding me.  I've just ordered deflect and the blueberry almond bars (I'm head to Haiti for 3 weeks in Nov just after my fast where I will not have access to the foods I really need).  So now I'm going back and get the protein.  Especially for the Haiti trip.

QUESTION: O's are limited to eggs 3-4 times weekly, right?  This powder is mainly egg white protein.  Am I limited in its use as well as whole eggs?
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Hi Again,

   Just blended up the powder and put it in pineapple juice with some agave.  Now I remember why I just let it go.  It has a very distinct and unpleasant taste and texture.  I've got to work on getting it to more of a smoothie, at least neutral taste!

    Thanks!
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I wouldn t bother about amount of eggs, unless you are overweight or have a serious health issue!

the amounts given are just guidelines, so you can design what fits you best.

I am glad to hear about your fast ending soon!
these type of practises can really take a toll of your body!
the best detox, balancing as well as anti inflammatory diet for you is BTD!


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try soaking the serving of powder overnight in the pineapple juice, or over a certain period of time, so the texture isn t that gritty!


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Tom,

I would not worry about the eggs for short term use. There is also reason to think that eggs are not a problem long term either, but they are not an O's best source of protein. The big scare with eggs is the yolk, which there is reason to believe is really not a problem (for people without a specific problem related to them).

Lloyd
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tomfluce
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Thanks everyone, Lloyd, Lola.  This is a wonderful service.  Now I'm committed to doing the diet right.  My fast is a political-religious-human rights undertaking.  I've fasted in the past with good benefits.  Now I'm heading into my 70th decade in May.  My blood pressure has been rising, overweight by some 25-30 pounds depending on how people look at me.  Being an activist I get distracted and do the wrong thing dietwise and then end up less able to be active!

So now the weight is pretty much gone.  Blood pressure is way down.  A couple of pinched nerves are cleared up. Most of all my thinking is as clear as ever, energy regular.  I'm still biking and doing calesthenics 3 x weekly.  Of course I do juice fasting, not starvation.  Take my synthroid and vitamins.

Thanks again everyone.  Talk to you after the fast, maybe after Haiti!

Blessings!
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have a safe trip!!

there s always vegetables and fruit available, and how about taking with you some jerky??
http://www.americangrassfedbeef.com/grass-fed-beef-jerky.asp
always check for avoids!


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