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dawgmama
Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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My friend, who has been on Weight Watchers for 4 years, used to think my BTD was "a demented diet". I have been on the  BTD lifestyle for the same amount of time, and I've stayed in a size 8, and lowered my cholesterol by 33 points. She now is starting to see that wheat does make her weight go up but still thinks I am a bit nuts(well, she may be right,  ) However she recently found out that her cholesterol is 257, although her LDL/HDL ratios weren't too bad (the doc is mailing her the numbers). She asked me for suggestions to lower her numbers, and I knew this community could help me out. Her doc said a lot of docs would put her on drugs, but that she should work on changing her diet and exercise more.

My friend is not sedentary by any means, but she doesn't like to "sweat", which as an O she should, right? She tends to go for "low-fat" foods, and cooks a lot of Thai style meals. Right before she had the blood test, she had been on a "girls weekend", and had binged a bit on cheesecake and "low-fat" cookies. Could a binge show up in the blood work? She also drinks at least 4-6 diet Cokes a day. I cannot convince her that artificial sweeteners are bad for her. She thinks she is being good to her family by baking with Splenda.   Any advice is much appreciated!


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Now 257 isn´t horrible bad....
From cardio book:
It is mainly the carbs she should look out for.( dairy, wheat/grains etc)
..and get on the high protein diet = O diet '
I am certain that both the thai food, the diet coke and the splenda is messing her up !
Could you give her the top 12 heartfriendly foods for O´s?

I´ll post them If you havn´t got the cardio book.


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Oh my gosh 4-6 diet cokes a day - that would mess anyone up just with that.  I would start with getting her off of that and just drinking water - that would be a huge improvement to start out with I would think.  And people who think Splenda is a healthy alternative - that's a hard one to fight as well because from what I've read it is not.  I'm sure you'll get lots of good advice to get her back on the right track.


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my doc even told me that to lower my cholesterol, I should eat less carbs!!! a doc!
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Trash the wheat, eat the meat (after you go out and kill it!)
Grain is a drain, corn is forlorn.

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The question I would ask is, does she WANT help?  I can't believe how many people would rather feel crappy than change their habits!! My husband is a high school math teacher, and we've noticed again and again that only about 10% of his students have that "spark" inside that wants something better - whether it be grades, health, whatever.  That percentage seems to hold true in any given population.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.  
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good one, Lloyd!
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Lloyd said it much better, but tell her no wheat, corn, or potatoes.  That's basically what I tell people who only casually ask.  I agree with Kari--does your friend really want help or just an excuse to continue to feel bad?

Good luck with her.  Maybe you'll convert her to the better way of life, the BTD way of life!


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Great lines, Lloyd!!

I tell people no wheat or corn, and cut way back on dairy....if they don't run away, I say a "little" more  


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said too much :-/....and nobody will listen when not demanded especially to go for it ;)

btw... it hurts to get classyfied into so called *pré-medical* affaires :P
shows me up that normal people doesn't have not even the slightest glimps of whats' about nutrition and supplements are :P .....
but proclaim that pharmaproducts will bring  their health back ....tsk...tsk...tsk........
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and here all dearles is waving OUR chance... go for all and tell people about BTD....equal if they listen or not..... one day they have to listen when it hurts too much ;) .....


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tell her I went from  243 as a vegetarian to 150 eating red meat twice a day.... lots of romain lettuce, olive oil... raw walnuts, pumpkin seeds... but LOTS of red meat....  tell her this  works!!!!

diet  drinks are  horrible for anyone... tell her she's killing herself with those... it  even messes with  your body's natural hunger/ full  systems....
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Thank you everyone for your excellent advice!  We are going camping with our horses next week, and I will volunteer to do the grocery shopping. I will conviently forget the wheat, dairy and corn(except for our few token marshmallows[corn syrup] around the campfire!). Perhaps if she sees how well we can eat without the "big three" (wheat, dairy, corn), she will feel so good she will want to try 'our way' of eating!

Convincing her that "diet" anything is BAD will be a challenge.  Weight watchers pushes whole grains and encourages using Splenda etc. I have convinced her that wheat contributes to weight gain, because she will avoid it for a couple of days before she has to go "weigh in" at WW. Pehaps baby steps like that will reveal to her that avoiding the O avoids is a terrific idea.

I think she really would like help, it will just be hard to push past the ideas that have been thrust upon her, such as all fat is bad, grains and dairy will help you loose weight etc. I fume each time I read or hear the dairy council ad that says " low fat dairy will help you lose weight"! As soon as I gave up dairy- whoosh! 12 lbs fell off my body! Plus my hip joint stopped aching!  

Thanks again everybody, once again, you are a wealth of knowledge!


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As soon as I gave up dairy- whoosh! 12 lbs fell off my body! Plus my hip joint stopped aching!  


This just shows us how BTD works:
As soon as I started to use FULL fat dairy every day - I started to feel content and loosing weight

Have a nice trip...
Baby steps....


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Have your friend look at the WW CORE diet. She will see that it is heading towards eating many of the foods on the BTD.
She will be losing her dairies but she can do rice milk or soy. She is getting her meats and such. I find that most people on WW try very hard to work as much faux food into the points as possible. This is not good.
If you can get her to try the BTD food (which is real food) she might actually see it is not a weird way of eating.
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