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vlollis
Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 3:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I noticed on page 77 of my Type O Food, Bev and supplement List book that collards are not listed along with Kale and Kelp in the "weight loss key" section...i looked up collards and kale in the typebase and they both are listed as superbenificials for O's....does anyone know if collards are just as good for weight loss? I prefer the taste of collards much more.  

I did notice that i lost more the week before when included more broccoli and kale in my meals....i eliminated them last week and just ate collards...the result, less weight loss...but i have to consider that one would lose more in the first couple of weeks than the 3rd week....

Any weight loss tips would be great....oh, and i'm taking Deflect (when i remember to).  
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is that the ERFYT book or the LRFYT one?
there are some typos and differences between the two, but you have typebase to check all values, no worries.
all greens in your list are fine!

some Os lose more weight avoiding grains and legumes.....also watch the portions given per week or day, accordingly.

here s the errata page to help you detect discrepancies between the books.
http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1075206425


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Collards should be fine. They are superbeneficial in the health series books that I have read (Cardiovascular, Fatigue, Aging) and I managed to lose about 55 lbs having collards 5-6 days/week. They have become my favorite cooked leafy green, I never ate them before the BTD.
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From the http://www.nutritiondata.com Database:
They are equivalent in terms of Weight Loss.
However, intriguingly(?), Collards wins out over Kale nutritionally particularly in the Amino Acid/Protein Profile (comparing the Cooked Drained w/o Salt).
On the other hand, the same Database has a category for a Scotch Kale...


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vlollis
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Thanks so much for your help, everyone....Lloyd, awesome that you lost all that weight with collards in your diet!...and Schugell, it's great news that Collards win over Kale for nutritional value. I get so much more enjoyment eating the collards instead of kale...and i really enjoy the extra large Collard leaves at my local Earthfare.  I also saw good looking Collards at a local chain. Cheaper there too. Can't wait to try out those for flavor.

Lola, I messed up over the weekend...started out great with some leafy greens and a bit of london broil in the am...but in the afternoon, i HAD to have a Jersey Mike Sub with a big fat hoagie roll, italian ham, provalone cheese and lots of oil and VINEGAR!!! It was SOOOOO good but i paid for it.
...a bloated belly, headache and swollen feet and hands...and i gained three pounds over night....wont do that anymore. I'll stick to your advice of avoiding the grains and legumes!

Thanks again.
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I am not familiar with collard. Is it the same as silverbeet?  
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Vicki,
knowing what causes a bloated belly, headache and swollen feet and hands...and gaining three pounds over night, is an invaluable lesson. right?

keep up the great spirit!


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Quoted from Curious
I am not familiar with collard. Is it the same as silverbeet?  


From what I can tell, the silverbeet is a variety of Swiss Chard.

Pics and descriptions of Collards and Kale:
http://www.floridata.com/ref/b/bras_ole_kale.cfm
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Hi Curious,
Unsurprising that you aren't familiar with collards. I'd never eaten them before living in the UK where they are known as spring greens. Back in Australia, I've searched high and low for fresh collards unsuccessfully. Even kale which is available in Australia is difficult to find. Some supermarkets carry Tuscan kale when it is in season but it is outrageously expensive ie about $4 for a few smallish leaves. They are easily grown, by the way. As for collard seed I haven't been able to locate a source here.
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Hi Eh,
Yes, kale is easy to grow. I have lots in my garden at the moment (they are under insect attack though, but the insects can be washed off easily).
I have never seen collards here (and the woman in the health food store I asked said that it was some type of greens - well I knew that much) - that is why I thought that maybe it is silverbeet, but from Lloyd's link (THANKS), it is clear that it is something different.
Since you mention seeds - I just checked my favorite seed supplier and they have 2 types of collard seeds (brassica oleracea var. accphala), the first one is called 'Champion', the second is called "Georgia Southern'. I'll get some for next autumn. The seed supplier, in case you are interested, is Eden Seeds, their website is http://www.edenseeds.com.au  
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Quoted from lola
Vicki,
knowing what causes a bloated belly, headache and swollen feet and hands...and gaining three pounds over night, is an invaluable lesson. right?

keep up the great spirit!


Exactly!!! i'm staying away from Jersey Mikes! haha...it really wasn't worth it. We'll see how long my common sense stays with me. Food obsession can be a battle for me sometimes. i was watching a yummy restaurant commercial last night and i guess my son saw my face light up...he immediately turned the tv off and told me not to think about it. haha! he looks after his mama.

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Many thanks for the info, Curious. Collards are delicious, by the way. I prefer them to kale (even the delectable Tuscan kale).
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If you can find Lacinato kale (aka Dinosaur kale), it is really good, too. I prefer it to curly kale, red or green.


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JamieB
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How about Red Russian Kale, it smells like roses when raw and is super sweet when cooked. My all Time favorite is the Lancinato kale. I did just by some Collard starts at my local nursery so look around. There are also some suppliers selling seeds and seedlings.
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vlollis
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Lacinato Kale? Gotta try it.
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