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BobiD
Monday, September 17, 2007, 6:50pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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My friend (type A) and I (type B) are both hypoglycemic insulin-resistant.
It is a year now, that we are doing the Atkins diet, which has been a great help for us in many ways, including in feeling much stronger, and in finally suppressing our constant food cravings.
We read about the blood type diet, and as a start, we eliminated the avoid-list, and added some few of the less glycemic foods from the highly-beneficial-list, but deviating from the Atkins diet, like one more little fruit (the less glycemic ones), or eating more carbohydrate than we're used to, is resulted in untoward and unhealthy symptoms;
• We both have headaches, a few hours after the relatively glycemic food eaten
• We both gain weight.
My friend much more than I do -and he had already changed his diet from the low-carb once, and gained 25 kg. (55 lb.) in 2 years -on a diet! (the altered one).
• We both get much weaker, if suspending our meals a while.
• I have real dark purple circles under my eyes,
giving me the look of a very ill / anemic / not-sleeping-for-days person
(I get them after eating only about 50 grams of fruits a day!  a-n-d  eating them with protein and fat to lower the glycemic index).
• I become less mentaly sharp and have a significantly, sometimes embarrassing memory loss.

- usually these symptoms disappear 4-6 days after removing those extra foods, and returning to the low-carb diet.
Almost a month of eating new foods-getting those symptoms-taking these foods off-and trying new foods again, led us to still stay on the low-carb diet, plus to somehow follow the instructions of the blood type diet, mostly the avoid-lists.
For my friend, as an A, living chiefly on animal protein, though from the neutral-list, means being far a way from the A's diet.

What should we, and should we not eat, to manage with our blood type and hypoglycemic diets conflict?
How can my friend do the change, and be on a mainly carbohtdrate diet as it is for type A, when, at present, he hardly bears 30 grams of carbohydrates a day, without gaining weight?

We would be very grateful, if there's anyone, who can tell us about how he/she managed to adjust the change from a low-carb diet to the blood type diet, especially type A and hypoglycemic persons.

Thank you very much!
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Monday, September 17, 2007, 7:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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My friend (type A) and I (type B) are both hypoglycemic insulin-resistant.  ...What should we, and should we not eat, to manage with our blood type and hypoglycemic diets conflict? How can my friend do the change, and be on a mainly carbohtdrate diet as it is for type A, when, at present, he hardly bears 30 grams of carbohydrates a day, without gaining weight?

Welcome, BobiD!  Most of the carbohydrates in the Type A diet are from whole vegetables, fruits and grains, and thus are low on the glycemic index.  The BTD very much de-emphasizes refined, processed grains and added sugars.  The only really high-glycemic items would be fruit juices and certain fruits that some types can have, such as bananas.  If you (Type B) and your friend (Type A), stick with emphasizing your beneficial foods and compliment those with some neutrals, while avoiding the avoid foods as much as possible, I think you will be very pleasantly surprised with just how balancing this diet is to the blood sugar.  And since your friend does have blood sugar issues, perhaps emphasizing as many veggies as possible, complemented with lean proteins like fish and lean poultry, and de-emphasizing the allowable grains would be best.  This diet is all about customization for each individual.

Welcome again!  By the way, you may wish to go into the "Member Center" and select a Type B "avatar" (shield), so that people can tell your blood type at a glance when responding to future posts.  That way, you don't have to say in each post what your blood type is.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.  And I'm sure you will get more responses to your post here, hopefully from some A's and B's.  Again, welcome!



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gulfcoastguy
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Welcome Bob. I can't address the A friend's diet because I have no A's in my family. You might start with getting your secretor status checked because that changes a lot of things. I have to go now but I'll continue this in a few hours.
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Lloyd
Monday, September 17, 2007, 10:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Bobi,

How many grams of carbohydrate have you been allowing yourself? I'm wondering if you are maintaining ketosis, which might explain part of what you described.

If you have not already done so, I would strongly recommend you read Dr D's book on Diabetes.
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gulfcoastguy
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Okay I am back. Lloyd beat me to recommending the diabetes book which I was going to do because hypoglycemia/insulin resistance is just the early stages of type II diabetes in fact it is called prediabetes. I recommended the secretor test because diabetes is more common in nonsecretors. Some of the negatives of being a Bnonsecretor are:all wheat becomes an avoid, the alllowable types and amounts of dairy are reduced, the only beneficial nuts become walnuts, there are nolonger any beneficial beans and only a few neutral beans, the only beneficial nuts are walnuts. The advantages of being a nonsecretor:flaxseed and walnut oils become beneficial, several more fruits and vegetables become beneficial, some avoids become neutrals like pumpkins and tomatos.

Excercise is very important in regulating sugar levels. It increases muscle mass which increases your base metabolism, it decreases stress, and it helps remove toxins from the body. The best excercise your friend and you could do togather is yoga with walking and light weight lifting or calisthentics for other activities. You will find as you get used to it that B's prefer a somewhat more demanding excercise routine than A's do. We also seem to prefer more variety in our activities.

Two supplements that help B's are fenugreek seed capsules and magnesium citrate capsules.

If you have some more questions you can send me a personal message by first clicking on member center at top then following the directions for writing a message.

About your friend maybe it would help if he had his blood tested to verify that he is indeed an A blood type then had his secretor status checked.
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I strongly suggest you read this on As and also on Bs...
and what makes each of you an individual!
http://www.4yourtype.com/TypeA_basic.asp

http://www.4yourtype.com/TypeB_basic.asp

easy to follow basic steps to get you on the right track and individualize your diets according to your unique physiology!


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BobiD......good questions....the reason people are saying "get your secretor test" is because an A nonsecretor eats more meat and less carb......which could explain your friend's situation....good luck!
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also the difference in being an A1 as opposed to an A2.
A2 non secretors get more protein, guess they have higher IAP levels.


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BobiD
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Thanks a lot for all the replies! We sure will use your advises.

We haven't read the Dr. D'adamo's Diabetes book yet.
Are there any cases like ours in the book?

As for ketosis, my friend has it, I don't. I don't know the exact amount, but I guess I'm somewhere around the 35-40 grams carbohydrate top.

How can we check our MN and A1/A2 status?

Thanks again.
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Welcome to the forum, BobiD.

There are many people who combine the BTD lifestyle with another type of 'diet' or eating pattern.  This is an individual choice.  It may work for some people or may be problematic for others.

One can utilize the precepts of the BTD lifestyle foundation as their meal planning.  An individual to refer to a low glycemic food list and their own food preferences to make food choices throughout the day.

You can check your serotyping or MN, A1/A2 status as follows:
SCMN
480.970.0000
http://www.scnm.edu/medcenter/laboratory.php


Alia




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Quoted from BobiD

Thanks a lot for all the replies! We sure will use your advises.

We haven't read the Dr. D'adamo's Diabetes book yet.
Are there any cases like ours in the book?

As for ketosis, my friend has it, I don't. I don't know the exact amount, but I guess I'm somewhere around the 35-40 grams carbohydrate top.

How can we check our MN and A1/A2 status?

Thanks again.



I wonder if your friend is hypo only because of the low carb and the ketosis. Are they under a doctor's care/taking medication?

As a B, you are better able to handle the low carb regimen. Are you also both hypo and resistant? Or are each of you one half of the equation?

A1/A2 can be checked by a simple blood test through many labs, the MN has fewer labs. Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine will do those and Lewis typing as well.
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