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tpishdad
Thursday, September 13, 2007, 10:03pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I have seen some posts, but for an O+ these two breads are the best...can we cut to the chase...

Does anyone have a breadmaker receipe for either of these breads that does not violate the O...avoids....lists like Wheat...etc.

Thanks for your help.
You can email me at: timothy.pishdad@us.army.mil

I may get to it quicker...
Thanks

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based on how these breads are made I am going to guess that there are no recipes to make them in a bread maker.  Let us know if you find one.


Beouemom sounds like bay way mom and I think Colorado is a great place to live.  
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Make your own Essene or Ezekiel Breads, from Heidi Merrittís blog:
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/otd/archives/00000033.htm


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tpishdad
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Thanks for the tip...seems the Essene receipe only ingredient is Wheat sprouts? † But wheat is an "avoid" †for 0+ like me?...help!!

What 0+ tolerant sprouts can be used....I really don't care for Rye....

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Lloyd
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Hi Tpishdad!

Just want to welcome you to the forum! I don't use or bake bread, so I can't help you too much there. Looks like some others have already added their thoughts.  

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Quoted from tpishdad
Thanks for the tip...seems the Essene receipe only ingredient is Wheat sprouts? † But wheat is an "avoid" †for 0+ like me?...help!!

What 0+ tolerant sprouts can be used....I really don't care for Rye....



Hi.

Sprouted wheat is okay. In the case of wheat, sprouting destroys the lectin.
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tpishdad
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Great point, I missed it in the book...I see it now....
I am headed to the store tomorrow and will give it a try this weekend.

Thanks.
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tpishdad
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Thanks Lloyd for the welcome!!!

Glad to be here...and hopefully ready to learn....
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Quoted from tpishdad
Thanks Lloyd for the welcome!!!

Glad to be here...and hopefully ready to learn....


We're all learning.  

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What Lloyd said. I'm constantly learning new things about the BTD (and life in general).


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Does sprouting soy destroy the soy lectin?  My AB daughter and B husband still react to Ezekiel bread as if they've eaten a soy product.

Tpishdad, you can maintain an O diet in the military?  Wow!  Good going!


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Quoted from Ribbit
Does sprouting soy destroy the soy lectin? †My AB daughter and B husband still react to Ezekiel bread as if they've eaten a soy product.


Quoted from dadamo.com
Does sprouting destroy or neutralize lectins?

In some cases, yes. In other cases, such as alfalfa sprouts, the lectin activity is enhanced by sprouting. The recommendations for foods are inclusive of whether the food is eaten sprouted or cooked, unless explicitly stated otherwise.



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Gosh....I am in no position to speak authoritatively....but the Book< Eat Right 4 Your Type, does state that wheat when sprouted does lose the lectin, which is not good for me being 0+.  I do not know how that relates to your reaction to Soy....Ribbit....sorry....I just don't know.

Ribbit, I am retired from the Army....yes, if I was on a field assignment...it would be almost impossible to manage this diet, however, most Officers when not deployed..or on field duty...we eat at home just like everyone else..and it those times we can control what we buy and eat.

I retired in 95 from the Army and my wife, Cynthia retired in 06.  We are blessed to have had the opportunity to serve our Country, and we pray for all those who still wear the uniform and work hard to defend our Country.

I will try Don's recommendation with the receipes that he pass on to me and let you all know how they worked for me.

I am on my first day, and I have had more energy and alertness today as well.  I will be tracking my progress and post those results.

Be Blessed.
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Alia Vo
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Welcome to the forum, tpishdad.

A recipe for essene bread is available in the BTD Recipe Index for your perusal:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor.cgi?267

This is a recipe that one can substitute and/or add ingredients to their specific preferences.


Alia


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Tim, In case you didn't know it, you can buy Food for Life Ezekiel 4:9 bread and Nature's Path Essene/Manna bread in health food stores and some regular grocery stores.


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I will be looking, but I also enjoy making and preparing my own food.  I guess its the hunter/gatherer....in me....

I will check out all my local health food stores.

Thanks
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Tim, Brighid s blog has loads of bread making tips.
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/hind/archives/00000030.htm


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tpishdad
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Thanks Lola...I will check it out. I think this is the same site, that was referenced earlier in this string, but thanks for the effort to respond.

I purchased some Ezekiel bread today (Freezer section), it was good....$3.89 at a local store, Ukrops.  The other day I also got some Spelt bread from the military commissary..$2.69 it was good as well.  

I am soaking some wheat berry grains (.79 cents a pound at Ukrops) now to get them to sprout so I can make some Essene (Manna) bread in a day or two...I will post my success....or lack of...lol

I also purchased some Spelt flour (2lbs for $3.89 at Ukrops) and next week will make my own Spelt Bread in my breadmaker..I will again let you know how it turns out.

Thanks all for your help.
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Another grain you might want to try is kamut.  It is sometimes called Egyptian Wheat.  As a nonnie I can not have soy or spelt.  
    I buy the kamut berries and grind it myself.  Then we make waffles out of the flour.  agave syrup or blackstrap molassas for the topping.  Hard to stop with just one waffle!


Beouemom sounds like bay way mom and I think Colorado is a great place to live.  
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As an alternative grain, organic rye berries make a nice tasting and hearty manna bread.  There are an assortment of grains that be be added to essene bread for variety--such as millet, quiona, barley, whole oats--please double check to ensure that the grain is okay for one's blood type.


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Does Kamut flour have glutten in it?  Can you make any kind of bread with it?
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Alia Vo
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Cynthia,

Kamut is a grain related to wheat that has not been hybridized.  Thus, similar to wheat, it does contain gluten.  Yes, kamut flour can be used in baked goods and breads.

I believe when I lived in California a few years ago, I purchased Pacific Bakery's 100% Kamut Bread.  I am not cognizant if this bread variety is still available.  It has been a very long time, but I faintly remember the loaf being very sort and dense--similar in resemblance to a loaf of manna or essene bread.  I believe it had a whole grain taste, and nutty and hearty flavor.

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I posted this comment on the 15th.  [ I am soaking some wheat berry grains (.79 cents a pound at Ukrops) now to get them to sprout so I can make some Essene (Manna) bread in a day or two...I will post my success....or lack of...lol ]

Now it seems my berries are sprouting but very unevenly...i.e., some are sprouting and some are not.  Seems the moist ones on the bottom of my collandar spouted and the drier ones on the top did not.  So last night I soaked all of them in water...and it seems more are showing signs of sprouting, but I was afraid to leave them in water too long, so I took them out covered them with a plastic cover and dish towel to help maintain the moisture...  

Seems to be working....lol

Any better ideas to get a more even spouting from my berries?  I want to grind them up tomorrow and make some Essene (manna) bread..with a little luck....right...!!!
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give them a rinse twice a day.......make sure they re always nice and wet but not drowning in water!

I place them covered inside the oven, dark is better.


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Thanks Lola,

I will do that.
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