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Lola
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One comment, though, off in the far recesses of my head is a mere hint of a headache, a small shadow in the corner, so to speak.


Chances it is the coffee detox. Lucky you only get a small shadow.

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ahaaa, yup now I recognize it, yeppers ther's the brown ones = roasted and the green one... might be that the roasted one has also toxins in coz of roasting ....hmmm until now I looked here everywhere in the normal shops and didn't found any ....have to lurk into the special ones ........
I just hate doing the shoppings .....but if it fits.... and  wüürrrgs .... so I've to ....
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there s bound to be an Argentine restaurant in the nearest city.
ask them for advice.....mate is mostly sold in these places, too.


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Hello Everyone,

Today is Day 5 with no coffee, only Yerba Mate.
And I have never once thought of the bean. Have plenty of energy, an
"energizer bunny" kind, not the bouncing-off-the-wall kind.

So continuing steady as she goes.

Thank you one and all for your encouragement and feedback on this site. I never would have gone for Yerba Mate again in a thousand years without you.

Cordially,
Margaret


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enjoy!
and congratulations in being off coffee!
shows character!


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This is an interesting line of conversation on Mate.  I have wondered about the green vs the roasted, and it sounds like green is the way to go.   Right, Lola?

How about blood type?  I can't recall if it is indicated for all of us.



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I believe the one I have is green........didn t know there s a roasted kind......
I ll stay with green.


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I have never tried the green... is it better tasting that then brown?  I cannot drink the brown at all!  Dislike the take very much...

I sure would like something to help me off the coffee though. It's hard getting off of it!!! And the cravings it causes me later in the day are horrid.  
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Still coffee  free here!!! YaeaHh!!   ok, so I did slip once, but it was for  lunch.  I was in New Orleans visiting my daughter and was in Whole Foods... had  a mocha latte and a bran muffin  because I was going to be  walking around shopping and alone driving all day and that was my "everything" for the day.... had no ill effects whatsoever and it tasted great.. but I  haven't been tempted again.. especially in the moringings... I DID try having plain tea in the morning with some left over onions and olive oil and pinapple juice ( the maranaid)... it was too heavy , and my husband later gentlly told me I had dragon onion breath...  so... I really think that I will not be eating onions .. you all know how wiggy I get about the bad breath.. I never eat garlic for that reason.. I know.. I know... you all tell me onions and garlic are so good for us, but I just can't feel good about blowing bad onion/garlic breath on my friends... it's so unattractive to me when I smell it on someone else... just a personal choice..
anyway,  my husband is off of coffee too now, so that's making it easier for me  to avoid it in  the mornings...
I guess hot coco is still an option IF I feel weak.. but I really think I'm free of that total craving for coffee that I used to have... I'm so  thrilled... it really CAN be done...
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great job!


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Keep up the good work Sheri!  



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I have never tried the green... is it better tasting that then brown?  I cannot drink the brown at all!  Dislike the take very much...

I sure would like something to help me off the coffee though. It's hard getting off of it!!! And the cravings it causes me later in the day are horrid.  


Anybody have any advice for me?
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try the green! hope it does for you, what it does for me!


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Repeating my question here . . Does anyone (Lola ? ) know if Mate is good for all blood types?

I can't find it in the lists.



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Dr D mentioned this time in Phoenix, what a potent antioxidant it is!
he didn t mention it being an avoid for any BT in particular, though.
but again, portions should be monitored......perhaps two cups a day is a reasonable standard.


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Thanks Lola, dear!  



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Anybody have any advice for me?


ROASTED CHICORY~ROASTED CHICORY~ROASTED CHICORY~ROASTED CHICORY

If you haven't tried Roasted Chicory Root yet, I highly suggest it.  Chicory is added to many brands of coffee to add a better flavor.  You make it in your coffee maker just like coffee.  You may have to experiment with the amount used until you get it right.  I think it tastes like coffee.  It's a Bennie for A's and O's and Neutral for the rest.  (under vegetables).  It is available from Frontier Herbs & Spices in a large foil type bag from a food co-op or HFS.  If I remember correctly it is available in organic and non-organic.

My husbad has taken it to work and had several people trying to kick the coffee habit try it and they all liked it.

If a person was unsure, they could always mix it with coffee and wean themselves from the coffee by using less coffee every few days or so.  


~jill~A+ + O+ = 2 O-'s!!!
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Hello Everyone,

It is Day 9 and no coffee only Yerba Mate. So far so good.

Thank you, Lola, for your encouragement.

A question, Victoria and funkymuse, when you ask about green vs. brown are you refering to the color of the drink after steeping or the color of the dried leaves and stems before adding water? The dry leaves and stems I use are green in color but when water is added the liquid is brown not green. Anyway, funkymuse, have you tried adding a little agave to the drink? I find it improves the taste for me a lot.

Just found a good website for you:
  http://www.guayaki.com
It does talk about and sell both roasted and green yerba mate. So there are 2 kinds. The website has loads of information and I buy their products locally. They even sell yerba mate and mint. Does that sound good, SheriBerry?

However, at the health food store yesterday I may have purchased a no-no. It is a bag of loose green Guayaki Yerba Mate along with Ramon Nut called Java Mate!!  This Ramon Nut has naturally occuring caffeine! Oh Oh.  Now I haven't opened it and I will return it if the feedback I receive here indicates that caffeine is caffeine is caffeine wherever it comes from "naturally". This Ramon Nut has twice the caffeine of green tea but 1/3 less than coffee. It has long been used in South America and according to the PR on the package this is great stuff..."Java Mate tastes like coffee and feels like mate."
Does anybody know anything about the Ramon Nut?

Is it coffee free for us 0s or is it also caffeine free? That is the question.

Now I just read on the guayaki website that some say that Yerba Mate has caffeine in it but it does not produce the same deliterious effects as the caffeine in the coffee bean. The more knowledge the more grief!

Thank you.

Cordially,
Margaret


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Hi jillthepilllady,

Thank you for the Roasted Chicory source. I have been looking to try that for some time. Whenever I have seen it, it is always combined with avoids. I'm off to order it.

Cordially,
Margaret


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I don't think caffeine has to be avoided or Roasted Chicory Root wouldn't be a Beneficial as it does have caffeine, perhaps naturally, not added but IT'S IN THERE!  Enjoy some.  Really, it's good.

Green Tea has caffeine as well.


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That sounds really great, Margaret.. the mint..!
Well, I'm still doing fine without the coffee or half and half... I am still putting sugar and some West Soy unsweetened soy milk in my tea most mornings.. THIS is something I want to quit, as well... but I figure I'm doing well to be off of the coffee.
At one point I  was experimenting with having plain green tea and  a few spoonfuls of  raw almond butter for breakfast.. even though almonds are  neutral for O's, I got a TERRIBLE brain fog every time I did it.  I can eat raw almonds ok, so it's not that I'm allergic to them.  Tomorrow morning I'm going to experiment with some pumpkin puree.. it's creamy, so I might like it.  I know I can kick the sugar habit since I've kicked the coffee habit.. as I once said, I may have been more in love with the sweet/ creamy/ hot  part of coffee than the actual coffee itself...  I would NEVER want  black coffee...  so.. it seems my  cravings are deeper!   know  thy self, eh?    
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Hi SheriBerry,

Have you considered Agave Nector in place of the white sugar in your green tea?
It really fills the bill, so to speak. I, too, have a sweet tooth and I satisfy it mostly with cocoa
powder, hot water and agave. Or part of a 100% chocolate bar and agave.

The pumpkin puree is delicious, heated up, with a little butter and salt added . I used to include it with some of my meals. Only I discovered that I actually feel better if I don't eat the starches...like yams (sweet potatoes), winter squash and pumpkin puree.

Thank you, jillthepilllady, for reminding me that, yes, green tea does indeed have caffeine in it.
So I've decided to try the Java Mate (yerba mate and Ramon Nut) tomorrow and see how I feel.

Cordially,
Margaret


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Hey Margaret,
Yes, I did try the agave nectar... I really liked the taste, but I was using quite a bit of it and it was getting expensive.. plus, I started gaining weight on it... so... no more of that... I tried honey again last week, but my face started breaking out..   the glycemic load must be  high for the amount I put in...so.. even though sugar isn't so great, it doesn't break my face out and I am not gaining weight.. I'm going to try to go without sugar .. I went to a great yoga session tonight.. this world famous guy,  Doug Swenson...  he was amazing.. so I'm pumped up..  bummer, though.. in his books on  nutrition he says meat is out.. I didn't try to ask him if he knew about the blood type diet...
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Hey Margaret,
... I tried honey again last week, but my face started breaking out..   the glycemic load must be  high for the amount I put in...so.. even though sugar isn't so great, it doesn't break my face out and I am not gaining weight.. I'm going to try to go without sugar ...


SherriBerri, Sorry, I haven't read all 7 pages of this thread but wondered if you tried Stevia as a sweetner?  A tiny bit goes a long way and it has a tendency to balance blood sugar levels.


~jill~A+ + O+ = 2 O-'s!!!
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