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Mickey
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I've been on the BTD for along time, but can't seem to kick the coffee addiction for good. I get off of it for awhile, then back on, the cycle continues.

I know coffee is not good for us O's.

Can anyone please remind me of what it does to us, i know it has alot of acid that's not good for us. Maybe i just need a good kick in the butt!.

Thanks!
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yes and inflammation, which is also unnecessary.
may also trigger an insulin resistance in some and other nasty stuff......
I wish you all the courage you can have, to kick the habit asap!


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hey Mickey-Madl, if I can let it be, so you are also able...since last octobre...not even a little cup of this
stuff ...but you can believe me, I feel great today without..... and I know, I was a real toughy caf addicted one ......fffffttttt.....happy that's behind me ......
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Vrrroooommmm...run, run, run to the bathroom for me. And afterwards, the inflammation and headache is not worth it...at all. Green tea and rooibus tea have been my favourites ever since cutting it out.  And the beloved mountain tea.  

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It burnt my stomach after about six months - I was overworking and thought I needed the coffee to stimulate me so I could do more - previously I had kicked it for six months - have now been off it about a week and already the digestive system is settling down - I do feel tired and look awful but that will pass so please give it a lot of thought before you start drinking it again - Good Luck
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hey, roostersis I do still have the lovely mountaintea ....and found out a northteutonic deliverer here in Zrich.....weeew !!!!! ....

hmmm me and green tea at this moment...nada mas...get heatbeats like crazy.....
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Hello! What is the Mountain Tea?
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yes, coffee messes w/ the blood sugar. I was having a real issue w/ mine before I got off it.
speedy, your tiredness and 'look awful'ness    will pass. I had some   probs w/ that, but truthfully my tiredness was from my failing adrenals. Have you looked into the symptoms of that (adrenal fatigue) http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm#2

here is the whole article........long but well worth it. If you can print it off in color and find a quiet spot to read, it's quite enlightening.
http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm



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Hello! What is the Mountain Tea?



arose23...mountain tea is a wonderful tea that we first tried in Greece in May 2006 for the first BTD get together. It is a great tasting tea that is nice and mild tasting with a bit of sweetness to it. Makes you feel wonderful too. Some of us brought some back and some had some shipped to us. I found an unopened bag a few weeks ago in the back of my cupboard. What a wonderful surprise.  Click on google and you will get information on it arose23.  

Isa...that is great that you found a place to get it in Switzerland. Enjoy roostersis. Oh I like those heatbeats. Get them from the green tea and the mountain tea. mmmmmmm.

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I guess we all have to ask ourselves: Why?
I still drink coffee and I read the comment about inflamation and I guess I just conveniently forgot that detail. Adrenal fatigue hmmmm. How do I handle stress if my adrenal glands gave up the fight since I won't stop drinking coffee? My answer: Denial. I'm glad you asked for reminders. I'm going to look at the adrenal issue again. And I'm also wondering if aches and pains I've been feeling are more from coffee than from possible undeflected avoids like wheat that slipped through my diet latley. But back to Why? I really think the ritual of making it has more to do with my continued overindulgence. I don't know about you but it is a thing for me to grind and wait for the brew  and then enjoy it. That ritual alone somehow defines my persistance. I avoid pots at stores. I don't really enjoy restaurant "sock juice"very much. If I can't have organic fair trade I feel cheated and guilty. I suppose the mission is to some how replace the ritual with something more meaningfull. Not that my coffe ritual is all that meaningfull, but somehow in a busy day it helps to form a window through which to view things and I really feel coffee has become part of that step. I read a book called "The fruit palace" once and there was an interesting explaination somewhere in it about plant affinities and humans. It might be a stretch to include coffee but I don't think so. We can chose our allies from the plant and animal kingdoms in this world. These allies are ready and willing to help as much as they can. It's not their job to know when to stop. If one invites forces into ones life..... You must endevore to remain in control of your needs.
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Without coffee (after withdrawal) I am peacefully active. With coffee I tend to be Type A personality; not nice for those around me. I am very much an O so if i add coffee...

I am planning to have my last coffee on Sunday. Saturday I start my holidays so if I feel sleepy I just find a good beach to have a little nap

Isa, thanks for your report. It really motivated me to to know you will make 1 year in October . I well remember those first days/weeks. Thank you for pulling it through. But I can not believe time has passed so fast.

How would you describe your difference? After all AB have a similar stress reaction to O's Well you are Royal but after all a human !

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What a great advice from all of you.  I had "kicked" the coffee habit for several months, but fell back into the habit a few weeks ago.  Taking several kids to college, staying  in hotels, visiting family, eating out a lot , having company ( the last of the company just left a few hours ago)  just set me over the edge!!!!!!!  I feel like I am on  major drugs right now.. I feel so bad... BUT!!   there is hope..... I feel like I can get back on track now and settle into my beloved BTD....I feel SO unhealthy right now.  I am vowing to myself NOT to  slip into this pattern again.. I am going to have to learn to stand up for myself when I'm on the road / have company/ out of my zone and just make the BTD happen.   I know I can do this.  It will just take a bit more thinking ahead and willpower.
So, I had coffee this morning,  with the dreaded sugar and milk.., but can anyone tell me the very best things I can do for myself the rest of the day to start back on tract FAST???  I do not have  deflect....
thanks for any help anyone can offer...
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Hello everyone, I'm new to the Blood type diet and have just started this week. I'm happy to say that i feel better already. My main goal is to feel better for life but i'd also like to lose an extra 25 lbs that i've been carrying around for the past 10 years. So far, i'm down by three!

I've always exercised and have eaten chicken and veggies regularly...but prior to reading D'Adamo's books, I also used to eat alot of whole wheat everything!!! I thought it was good for me but now i understand that it's a big no-no for 0's and that wheat glutens were the reason why i wasn't losing weight. Eliminating the wheat is already making a world of difference. Thanks Dr. D'Adamo!

I do have a question however. .. from reading ER4YT and CR4YT, i can't seem to find out exactly what is wrong with coffee. I only drink a cup of decaf in the morning ( on an empty stomach) and one at night. I'm wondering what the problem is with increased levels of stomach acid because coffee doesn't seem to bother the way i feel. So I'd love to have a little more information to help me justify the elimination of coffee from my diet. Does coffee perhaps interfere with my ablility to metabolize food, therefore slowing down weight loss?

Thanks for your help and for the wealth of important information around here.

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Welcome to the forum, why not start your quest for information with this thread
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So, I had coffee this morning,  with the dreaded sugar and milk.., but can anyone tell me the very best things I can do for myself the rest of the day to start back on tract FAST???  .


load up on the bennies.........beef, broccoli, bananas, plums, walnuts, etc.    If you have some green tea, have some of that.......no sugar and milk    you might try a little agave nectar and soy milk.  I chose soy because unless you make your own, finding rice or almond milk w/o avoids is impossible.  




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So, I had coffee this morning, with the dreaded sugar and milk.., but can anyone tell me the very best things I can do for myself the rest of the day to start back on tract FAST??? I do not have deflect....
thanks for any help anyone can offer...


I have to say you where one of my motivators a few weeks back... I guess it was more than 15 days ago !

To answer your question: How did you do it before? You have done it already. There is no magic pill. Perhaps because of your compliance you are now feeling more the effects of the avoids and are feeling worse than when you first started... Who said the good life is easy?

Just think you have learned a lesson. I think most of us have gone through it.
1st. you learned how to follow BTD in your environment
2nd. you have just had a glimpse of how it is in the outside world. Better ammunition for next time

In any case, Italybound has good advice. Up with the bennies especially protein. Increase your protein.

Best wishes. You can make it. It will be a breeze



PS. Chances are you can go cold turkey on the coffee since you have been back only for a short period. If not just a couple of days to wean yourself off it. No big deal .

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Thanks for the welcome....and OOPS! Right after i posted, i noticed the other coffee thread.
Sorry about that.

But from reading the thread you referred me to, i still feel like the coffee doesn't make me feel bad and i don't think i'm experiencing inflamation from two cups of decaf coffee....
I did read in one response that it could" trigger an insulin resistance in some and other nasty stuff......" So does that mean that the two cups i drink could slow weight loss? or undo all the healthy eating i'm taking on?

I (like Mickey) need a kick in the butt and for someone to give me a specific reason for me personally to get rid of two cups a day...
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I merged the new thread on coffee with the existing recent thread on coffee.


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I (like Mickey) need a kick in the butt and for someone to give me a specific reason for me personally to get rid of two cups a day...


I do not know the disadvantages of decaf coffee but, I wonder the following: Why would Dr. D'Adamo specify it as avoid? Especially knowing all the hassle he would get  

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I did read in one response that it could" trigger an insulin resistance in some and other nasty stuff......" So does that mean that the two cups i drink could slow weight loss? or undo all the healthy eating i'm taking on?


vlollis,wishing you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums.......
since coffee can mess w/ your blood sugar (insulin  resistance), it could def be a factor in slowing weight loss. when your blood sugar is out of balance, it can upset all kinds of things in the body. If you think of your body as a clock.........when one gear is not working  properly, none of them are.  



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I do not know the disadvantages of decaf coffee but, I wonder the following: Why would Dr. D'Adamo specify it as avoid? Especially knowing all the hassle he would get



Yes, you're right. There has to be a good reason for Dr. D'Adamo to specify coffee as an avoid...but i'm still struggling.

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Apparently avoiding coffee is not about the caffeine.  
Re: decaf.......IF you are going to drink it, please be sure to find out how it is decaf'd. Some processes use formaldihyde, I think it is.  
A little info on how they decaf - dont know if this one goes into the really bad stuff or not........didnt get to read it all.
http://ask.yahoo.com/20060102.html




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vlollis,wishing you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums.......
since coffee can mess w/ your blood sugar (insulin resistance), it could def be a factor in slowing weight loss. when your blood sugar is out of balance, it can upset all kinds of things in the body. If you think of your body as a clock.........when one gear is not working properly, none of them are.



Okay! That was the kick i needed. Thanks so much.  
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