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HigherGround247
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hi, i was wondering if anybody uses the two neutral cheeses in LR4YT: Mozarella and Feta. Or if you have tried it, but it did not work out? It would be nice if i could eat these often because of the calcium. that is the main reason im interested.
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If your worried about calcium there are a variety of good sources from more than dairy.  I was just looking at a website, worlds healthiest foods, and of the most calcium rich foods dairy was not as high as some good beneficial veggies for O's and other blood types, so check it out. You can also research supplements but be sure to check the type of calcuim, you can see what the calcium source from the NAP supplements and shop around if you cant afford those.
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As an 'O', I would view calcium from dairy sources as a bonus, not as a source.
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I have a small piece of mozza every day.  I always have.  It's my favorite cheese.

Also I eat feta whenever I can.  I don't usually buy it but I love Greek salads and they always have feta on them.  
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Henriette Bsec
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My O secretor eats the maximum of feta and mozzeralla every week - she has to when she is living with this B...
But she enjoys them and have no side effects. She eats butter and ghee as well- sometimes goat cheese.

I┤m not very strict on the dairy part with her:  she is healthy and slim -so somtimes she is allowed cream as well ( special weekends ...)- and she enjoys that and have no known side effects.... but give her a glass of milk and her eczema is back in no time !



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I would love to eat cheezzzeeee...but there are consequences lol!



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I know Poly( fellow dane) eats cheese as well - and the other O┤s I know here in Denmark do fine on cheese as well...
So I wonder if ones roots have something to do with how well an O feels on dairy ?!


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The worst part of being an O is having to avoid dairy

I consider myself lucky for I have no apparent problems with eating sheep/goat feta or fresh cheeses made of sheep and goat milk, almost daily.

Yoghurt however, is definitely an avoid for me. Yet I do have yoghurt cheese now and then. I buy either of goat, sheep or waterbuffalo yoghurt once a month and strain it well with the help of a cheese cloth.

And being such a good boy, once a year I reward myself with half a pound of traditional local ice cream made of slightly burnt goat milk and wild orchard root (salepi)

It should be noted that O's can absorb calcium more efficiently from whatever source, if they eat red meat. That induces the secretion of IAP enzyme which absorbs dietary calcium.

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Sounds interesting Yaman that icecream....


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Henriette,

A good reason for a B to visit Southern Turkey (Antalya) á

Or for "not burnt" version, visit Istanbul:

http://www.salon.com/wlust/feature/1998/11/17feature.html

Hope you like the story


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Henriette,

A good reason for a B to visit Southern Turkey (Antalya) á

Or for "not burnt" version, visit Istanbul:

http://www.salon.com/wlust/feature/1998/11/17feature.html

Hope you like the story


Interesting - thanks


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Greens like kale and collards are a good source of calcium, as is mineral water.

I use pecorino romano made with sheep's milk, and some butter on occasion, and the very occasional bowl of Turkey Hill ice cream (no additives or gums). That's about it. Cow's milk cheese, including mozzarella, makes me tired and creates a lot of phlegm. Two minutes of enjoyment for three or four days congestion and fatigue--not worth it!


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Brig, I'll have to check for those kind of reactions after mozzarella, tho I hardly ever have it, I still long for it.
I really need to bite the bullet, stop being a coward, and try making kale and collards!!!
I once had some canned soup (chicken?) that had kale in it, and I loved it.
Yaman, thanks so much for the red meat-calcium absorbtion connection...I love excuses to have more red meat.

As for me, butter  w/food, and lately cheating with 1/2&1/2 in coffee (both no-no's.)


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Dairy is not in my vocabulary any more, and I am feeling fine .
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I use mozzarella and feta both, but not in quantities large enough to meet calcium needs.  They just add flavor to a salad or a sushi nori wrap.  Other cheeses make me sleepy, but I don't have trouble with mozzarella or feta.    

I eat lots of greens and take calcium/magnesium capsules daily.


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im having second thoughts about trying the mozarella. its looks so good and smells so delicious so i must give in at least once. i will eat it by itself and see the wonders it does. wish me luck, and thanks for the feedback. i just had an idea that maybe i can take an enzyme supp.
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Just remember that dairy is not the end all be all source for calcuim. Due to advertising and what is taught in school about nutrition people tend to equate dairy as being the only way and the best way to get calcuim. Blood types other than B need to change their relationship with dairy, because its not the only source of dietary calcuim and its not the best source for us. If you are a nonsecretor O dairy is pretty much out althogether but if your a secretor you can tolerate more. I think it would be recommended to get your secretor status tested just for this reason so you will know which way you can go. Hopefully some of this information helps.
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read the part on dairy and osteoporosis.........they are bound alright!!


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Bone broth is a good source of calcium. I make them from beef bones, chicken carcasses, chicken feet or fish heads/bones. You need to simmer them for at least 12 hours (24 is better). I add 1 tablespoon of apple-cider vinegar to help disolve the calcium (I don't know yet wether I am a secretor or non-secretor, it is an avoid for non-secretors). I also add seaweed to get the minerals in the broth. I have been making the broths for quite a while now - I freeze them in small containers - and I found that my vegies/stir fries taste so much better. Curious
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add freshly squeezed lemon juice  once the broth is done and before
you turn it off, that will do the trick nicely!

I see we have things in common...I love doing my gelatinous stock, so healthy!


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The lemon juice is a great idea - have not thought of it! Yes, it is so healthy and the food tastes so much better.
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Bone broth is a good source of calcium. I make them from beef bones, chicken carcasses, chicken feet or fish heads/bones. You need to simmer them for at least 12 hours (24 is better). I add 1 tablespoon of apple-cider vinegar to help disolve the calcium (I don't know yet wether I am a secretor or non-secretor, it is an avoid for non-secretors). I also add seaweed to get the minerals in the broth. I have been making the broths for quite a while now - I freeze them in small containers - and I found that my vegies/stir fries taste so much better. Curious



wow curious that does sound delicious, do you just leave a pot on the stove? I have a gas stove, would it be ok to leave it on overnight?
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a crock pot works best for overnight.


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a crock pot works best for overnight.


ok thanks.
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