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So today I went to William's (a coffe pub chain here in ontario) and I ordered a green tea - nothing in it - just how i like it. it was a hot day and the girl working offered to make it with ice so i said why not. when i got it and tasted it i asked if she had put anything in it because it tasted sweeter then regular green tea and she said "no". my friend and i went to sit down and after i had drank 1/3 of the tea a girl that works there came up to me and asked how do you like the new iced green tea? i told it her it was suprisingly sweet and she told me she put sweet n low in it and i told her i had wanted it with nothing in it and she said oh well it tastes better with sweetner. so anyways i asked her to bring me a new one with nothing in it - it still tasted perfectly fine - i didnt mean to be a pain but guess what - 15 minutes later i got a pretty bad head pain almost as if i was high or something! DONt USE ASPARTAME!!!!!!!!!! i havent had it in so long it totally affected me!!

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Speaking of unholy evil, I just found out the stevia I've been using for at least a couple of years has maltodextrin in it.  What the ?????


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Quoted from dirrty_blonde_mp
So today I went to William's (a coffe pub chain here in ontario) and I ordered a green tea - nothing in it - just how i like it. it was a hot day and the girl working offered to make it with ice so i said why not. when i got it and tasted it i asked if she had put anything in it because it tasted sweeter then regular green tea and she said "no". my friend and i went to sit down and after i had drank 1/3 of the tea a girl that works there came up to me and asked how do you like the new iced green tea? i told it her it was suprisingly sweet and she told me she put sweet n low in it and i told her i had wanted it with nothing in it and she said oh well it tastes better with sweetner. so anyways i asked her to bring me a new one with nothing in it - it still tasted perfectly fine - i didnt mean to be a pain but guess what - 15 minutes later i got a pretty bad head pain almost as if i was high or something! DONt USE ASPARTAME!!!!!!!!!! i havent had it in so long it totally affected me!!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!  I can't BELIEVE she put Sweet-n-Low in it when you expressly, clearly, specifically asked for your tea with NOTHING in it!!!!  And THEN, when you said something and reminded her that you had asked for it with NOTHING in it, she copped a 'tude of, "Oh, well I say it tastes better this way so this is how you are getting it."  WHAT?

I would have gone completely postal at that point.

First of all, that restaurant needs to train its servers regarding saving the restaurant from a massive LAWSUIT when one of the servers unilaterally decides to add aspartame to the drink of someone who cannot tolerate phenylalanine!!!!!  To wit:

http://www.newstarget.com/008952.html

Secondly, that restaurant needs to train its servers regarding saving the restaurant from a massive LAWSUIT when one of the servers unilaterally decides to ignore the wheat-free request of someone who has celiac disease, for example, because the server decides, well, the steak really tastes better with the hidden glaze that has flour in it, so I'll just ignore the customer's request for the steak with no glaze.

What the *#$&)(&*#!!!????????????????????????????????

See.  This is why I hate going out to eat anymore.



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Well I order nonsweet tea because somehow or another they never get that confused like when I saw unsweet tea. Ah guess they think i'm sayin uh swee tee. I do put a packet of the pink stuff on the table that tacitly reminds them not to use the wrong pitcher on refills.
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Well I order nonsweet tea because somehow or another they never get that confused like when I saw unsweet tea. Ah guess they think i'm sayin uh swee tee. I do put a packet of the pink stuff on the table that tacitly reminds them not to use the wrong pitcher on refills.

I just say "PLAIN iced tea"...

...BUT, now that I've read this thread, I might change it to "PLAIN, unsweetened iced-tea containing nothing but tea and ice, no sweetener of any kind.  That means NO sugar, NO Nutrasweet/aspartame, NO corn syrup, NO saccharin, NO dextrose, NO "ose" of any kind, no anything.  Just tea and ice.  And lemon slices.  LOTS of lemon slices.  So, tea, ice, lemon slices, YES.  Sweetener of any kind:  NO, do not add any.  Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture.  Not gonna do it.  Na ga da.  Okay, please repeat back to me what I just said...aaaaand, GO:"

   


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btw, below are some of the lyrics of one of my fave non-secretor anthems.  I feel it is apropos for this thread.


No Sugar Tonight
by The Guess Who

Lonely feeling
deep inside
Find a corner
where I can hide
Silent footsteps crowding me
Sudden darkness, but I can see

No sugar tonight in my coffee
No sugar tonight in my tea
No sugar to stand beside me
No sugar to run with me

(and no aspartame, either!)


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Just to set the record straight.  Sweet N' Low is saccharine, not aspartame

(They're both evil.)


OUCH!!   My dogma was just run over by my karma!
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Speaking of unholy evil, I just found out the stevia I've been using for at least a couple of years has maltodextrin in it.  What the ?????


I am really new to the BTD and trying to figure out what all I can and can't have. Is Maltodextrin bad for Type O's?
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Welcome Judy,

You can check food values in the online Typebase,
Maltodextrin. The button for Typebase is at the top of the page.



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Hi Judy.

Glad to have you as part of the forum.

As you go along, you will find that corn has alot of names (takes a lot of 'unexpected' forms). Maltodextrin is one of them.

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Just when I think I have an understanding of what I can and can't have, I get surprised (and regrettably, it never seems to be a good surprise). Corn seems to be in everything!!

Thanks for the info
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Just when I think I have an understanding of what I can and can't have, I get surprised (and regrettably, it never seems to be a good surprise). Corn seems to be in everything!!

That is one of the reasons why eating whole foods is the best way to go.



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i told her i had wanted it with nothing in it and she said oh well it tastes better with sweetner..... i didnt mean to be a pain but guess what - 15 minutes later i got a pretty bad head pain almost as if i was high or something!


dirrty_blonde_mp, it is never too late to call or speak to the mgr about this and I would!! Her flippant attitude the SHE put sweetener in it because SHE thought it tasted better that way, would've had me asking for the mgr on the spot. The proper response should've been several I'm sorries and an OFFER to replace it..........not that attitude and you having to ask. And IMHO, you were not being a pain.............she was. What if someone  were deathly allergic to that sweetener............literally. I'd mention that to the mgr AND I'd be sure to let her know how you felt after drinking it!! If the mgr is any kind of mgr, THEY will apologize up and down for the employees doing what she did, her attitude and throw in at least a free drink at your next visit. How old was this gal..........like 12????  

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Just to set the record straight.  Sweet N' Low is saccharine, not aspartame (They're both evil.)


Oh no Linda you are so wrong here.........I have it on 'good authority' that you can use Sweet N' Low for 20 years and it won't kill ya.    May not kill ya, but I saw alot of other things it did to this person.  

Yes, Judy, corn does seem to be in everything.........and wheat..........our 2 buddies that keep turning up like a bad penny.




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Judy here s a useful site on corn........
http://allergies.about.com/gi/.....g-corn-from-diet.php


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dirty blond.....I'm afraid you aint DIRTY enough!!! .  I would have come unglued--BEFORE the headache kicked in.  I knew, when I first started reading this thread that Edna would have been all over this thread (GO EDNA!).  There is NO WAY they would not get an official complaint from me over that one.   And as far as I'm concerned it is definitly not too late.  I would also drop off some fine literature regarding this offensive food for the 12 year old to read and RE-educate herself.  

Not to mention, that is NO WAY to treat a customer, no matter what you think.  If WE were working at the restaurant and SHE came in an ordered a Banana Split with extra ice cream, would we bring her Broccoli & Spinich, because we thought it was better for her???  (Not a bad idea!)

THE NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE..........


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Boy, we're an opinionated bunch aren't we  
Looks like they need a 55 gal drum o' whoop a** opened up on them !!  
Do let us know what they have to say for themselves if you speak w/ the mgr, ok?
and hey if you dont wanna call them, feel free to pass along the number to me. I'd be more than happy to address this w/ the mgr. This is just so wrong!!!    I'd do it nicely of course, but he/she would def get the point.  



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