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Trish
Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 7:05am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi All,

I have a question.  Have recently changed from eating plain oats with honey in the morning to oats with soya milk and honey.  I also used to drink a cup of rooibos tea after breakfast, now I drink coffee instead as I heard that rooibos tea makes you lethargic.

However, since I've changed to the coffee and soya milk I have been struggling to wake up in the mornings and feel very lethargic until about 10 in the morning.  Could it be the soya milk and/or the coffee?

I have also introduced prunes into my diet and it makes me constipated and bloated.  Do I have to eat them?

Please help.
Thanx
Trish
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Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 8:11am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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dearest Trish,
yesssss it might be that cafť is your culprit, there are humans who show a so called adverse reaction; instead of getting fit, it's just the contrary.
If I remember well so Dr. D. has the same problem ........
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Trish
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Thanx for replying.

I have another question.  Can plain yoghurt, feta cheese and mozarella (all neutral foods) cause bloating and constipation?  I have found that if I eat these I have to clear my throat more.  Also, I'm insulin resistant and have been taking Chromium Picolinate to control my insulin levels.  However, maybe this is also causing me to be lethargic as I am eating low GI foods now.  Maybe I should stop taking these and see if it works?

I'm also cutting out the prunes, maybe the bloating will go away.  I'm finding that I have to change my diet through a process of elimination to see what I can and can't eat.  There are numerous foods on the beneficial and neutral lists that I can't eat.

Anyway, thanx for the help!
luv
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Hi Trish -

Even though yogurt is a neutral for us A's I can't handle it.  Even a couple tablespoons make me very gassy.  I don't have a problem with eating about one ounce of feta (which I love) a few times per week.  Mozzarella I usually don't bother with because I find it's bland compared to the tangy feta.

If something doesn't work for you, give it the boot.  It's all about being an individual.

PS - You mentioned the mucous throat thing.  Have you tried drinking the juice of one fresh lemon mixed in some water every morning?  Works great to cut down on the mucous issues we have.  Use a fresh lemon, not bottled.


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Trish, sounds like you have sluthed out the answer to all your problems
You are doing GREAT at listening to your body.
And process of elimination will def do the trick for ya!  
If prunes bloat ya, off they go!!
plain yoghurt, feta cheese and mozarella (all neutral foods) causing bloating and constipation - ship them off as well. If you find you are clearing your throat alot while eating these, it's a sure sign they need to go.    dairy does the same thing to me, even tho I'm an O.  Just always remember that even tho a food may be a neutral or a bennie, we are individuals, and these ratings are just guidelines. Some here are even intolerant of bennies for their blood type.     God made us individuals, so must we treat our diets....individually
re: the coffee and soya milk.........yep take them out and see if the problem goes away. if it does, there's your answer.  
while it certainly won't hurt you to take lemon water every morning, cutting the culprits that are causing the mucous from your diet will help even more.




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Hi, I'm a fellow A who has the same problem with dairy, I don't eat dairy at all now, I make rice milk kefir for the beneficial bacteria.

Fruit makes me tired, though I suspect that is related to candida levels - when I eat it, the candida grows and makes me tired.  Have you tested yourself for candida?

Also oats make me bloated and gassy, too.

The more compliant you are the easier it is to spot your own personal rogue foods, the benefits of eating right far outweigh the cravings for the foods you miss.
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you have both done your secretor tests to discard that possibility, right?


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I can't handle dairy at all anymore. I used to could do small amounts, but cow's milk really disagrees with me. Goat milk I can handle, but I barely even touch that anymore. Cheese causes my throat to be quite mucousy, as well.

I also sometimes crash after coffee. Not always, but if I drink too much, then I notice I crash.


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Quoted from Trish
I have also introduced prunes into my diet and it makes me constipated and bloated.
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I'm also cutting out the prunes, maybe the bloating will go away.  I'm finding that I have to change my diet through a process of elimination to see what I can and can't eat.  There are numerous foods on the beneficial and neutral lists that I can't eat.

How long have you been on the BTD

I found that my digestive system changed for many months after starting the BTD. I couldn't eat prunes or figs without lots of bloating and gas for at least 6 months after starting the BTD. Now they don't cause me any trouble at all. I also discovered that I had trouble with most grains until I gave them up for quite awhile and healed my intestines.

Others have noticed similar startup food issues.

My point is give it time, be observant as you are doing, temporarily eliminate foods that appear to bother you, but try the foods again some time in the future to see if they still bother you.

To speed your digestive system transition up you might want to consider taking Deflect A and if you don't think you have a mercury or candida issue also take PolyFlora A.


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I have had the secretor test done, was thinking about deflect, but when I started looking at the supps I got myself a huge shopping list that I could never afford! †Lots of them seem like a good idea. Perhaps I should start with deflect and see how it goes.

Also coffee, one cup is max for me, two and I go hyper and then get a bad blood sugar type reaction

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How about a cup of green tea instead of either coffee or rooibos?

Oats are a grain that messes up my blood sugar level and leaves me feeling tired and weak.

When in great confusion, I tend to move toward the beneficials that work for me, and de-emphasize the neutrals.



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Quoted from Trish
Thanx for replying.

I have another question. †Can plain yoghurt, feta cheese and mozarella (all neutral foods) cause bloating and constipation? †I have found that if I eat these I have to clear my throat more. †Also, I'm insulin resistant and have been taking Chromium Picolinate to control my insulin levels. †However, maybe this is also causing me to be lethargic as I am eating low GI foods now. †Maybe I should stop taking these and see if it works?

I'm also cutting out the prunes, maybe the bloating will go away. †I'm finding that I have to change my diet through a process of elimination to see what I can and can't eat. †There are numerous foods on the beneficial and neutral lists that I can't eat.

Anyway, thanx for the help!
luv
Trish

I really doubt it's the chromium causing your fatigue. I know of others who have used this supplement with very good results. Chromium is a mineral that helps insulin do a better job of shuttling glucose to the cells where it is burned as energy. It's possible that the coffee may be the culprit. Perhaps you may want to add some dense protein to your morning meal. Perhaps some eggs or poultry will fire your metabolism in the AM hours. Sluggishness is a hallmark of metabolic syndrome.


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Trish
Wednesday, August 22, 2007, 7:30am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Thank you all so much for your comments!

I've tried oats with water this morning and a handful of peanuts and raisins.  Seems to have worked.  I also had coffee with no problems.  No lethargy this morning and no heartburn and no bloating.  Must have been the soya milk which I was taking instead of water with the oats.

I find if I combine oats with peanuts my sugar levels stay quite stable as GI value of oats is about 60 (medium GI) and peanuts is 14 which is low GI.  The two combined = GI of 47 - which is low and quite acceptable so it shouldn't cause a sugar spike (this is why i tried to combine the soya milk with the oats - to keep the GI low since soya milk is very low GI).  Coffee combined with a low GI "milk" should also not cause a sugar spike (I don't know about cortisol levels?)  But I find coffee actually makes me feel better in the morning - as long as I stay away from soya milk.  Maybe its the combination I take - oats, peanuts, raisins and coffee.  Fructose also has a low GI of 20, which also does not cause a sugar spike - but it is high in carbohydrates so I don't have a lot!

I then have an apple or a pear before lunch - also low GI - so this also should not cause a sugar spike - but there are HIGH GI fruits (watermelon very high!) which I don't take cause these do cause sugar spikes in my system.  If I eat fermented food of any kind I find I bloat up and signs of candida do appear e.g. mushrooms, fermented cheese, yeast, bread, etc.  Rye bread is medium GI.

Most grains and pulses are low to medium GI except Millet which is high.  All processed (refined) food is high GI.  Most non-refined food in natural form is low GI except parsnips which are very high GI.  As you can see I have to watch my GI values being insulin resistant so I always try to combine foods to keep the GI values low to medium, which I find sustains me and keeps the appetite under control.

I do not have candida and find as long as I keep my food on the low GI side I am fine on this subject.

Anyway I'll see later how it goes cutting out the prunes and dairy!  Hopefully no bloating!

Thank you very much for the advice.  Will keep trying the elimination process...

Luv
Trish
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Trish, would go for some betain HCL before eating any kind of animal products, so you might raise up your pepsin production in your stomach, and against so much of mucus I'd take some NAC (n'acetyl cystein) this clears up your gout and lungs......against any kind of overproduction of slime.
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Quoted from Trish
Hi All,

I have a question.  Have recently changed from eating plain oats with honey in the morning to oats with soya milk and honey.  I also used to drink a cup of rooibos tea after breakfast, now I drink coffee instead as I heard that rooibos tea makes you lethargic.

However, since I've changed to the coffee and soya milk I have been struggling to wake up in the mornings and feel very lethargic until about 10 in the morning.  Could it be the soya milk and/or the coffee?

I have also introduced prunes into my diet and it makes me constipated and bloated.  Do I have to eat them?

Please help.
Thanx
Trish



try green tea or white tea


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