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Tom1964
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I know the BTD food types and I do generally understand that the Live Right book offers suggestions on number of servings, but I wondered if anyone knows when calories at one sitting are considered excessive.  Also what is the effect of excess calories, even from beneficial foods.

I've had some wheat and dairy avoids lately, but my biggest problem has been shear calorie volume.  My basic understanding is that too many calories at one meal causes the body to oxidize to complete the digestion necessary and this gnerally has an aging effect.

I hate to say this, but my joints are hurting for the first time in my life.  For about 6 weeks I was off any supplement and I was beginning to get quite sore just from getting up out of a chair.  

At 5-9 I weigh 265 and have added about 50 lbs in the last year.  I do understand these are all red flags in my health.  

Any answers to help give me better mental ammo when about to eat execessiive calories and any other thoughts about my joint soreness for the first time in my life?  This includes the joints in my hands and fingers.

I'll be glad to answer any questions.

Tom Wilson, 43
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I find that avoiding the avoids, particularly the big ones like dairy, helps regulate my appetite.  Unfortunately I've also found that going from poor compliance to high compliance and back a few times leads me to have a big appetite.  If I stay very compliant for more than a few days, my appetite decreases to where it should be.  It might be worth trying, and pay attention to your appetite and calorie intake after a week of high compliance.

A huge meal of collards shouldn't cause any problems  Excess sugars or fats could cause problems, even if they are beneficial.  Fill up on the vegetables first, then fill in with protein and finish off with any other stuff once you're already full and satisfied... you may find you need only a couple bites of the other stuff to satisfy any original cravings.


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I take the protein approach first, you being a man you can have the larger serving size and being over 250, I would even throw in a little extra protein per meal maybe egg whites added two egg white =1 egg and 7 g Protein.  try half your weight in grams of protein a day.  Also make sure your getting your olive oil each day at least 1 T each day and 1/2 t ghee each morning before food, throw in 1 oz of walnuts or almonds and 1 oz of pumpkin seeds each day, add greens and veggies to this and at the end of the day of last meal have your sweet potato, or fruits if needed. Also to kick the losing into gear, I've been doing a new Metabolic water therapy and it works
1/2C of room temperture water before each meal=appetite breaker
1 C of boiled water with juice of 1/2 lemon and 1t. zest of lemon an hour after each meal=detox
1 C of iced water an hour after boiled water
Do this three times a day. article said you lose up to ten pounds a week.  I lost 10 # in the last four days Tuesday thru Friday started it this week. Good Luck
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Quoted from Tom1964


I've had some wheat and dairy avoids lately, but my biggest problem has been shear calorie volume.


Wheat and dairy, ouch! That's self torture!

The way the BTD is set up there is no need to count calories. You may need to adjust portion sizes but it's a small thing over time.

I would suggest that the quickest results would come from reducing to 0-2 servings/week of grain and limiting your heavier starches (sweet potato, banana). Fill up on beneficial veggies. If you do that and get your exercise, the weight should come off fairly well. Use mostly beneficials, avoid the avoids.

The joint soreness could be gout, which should go away with weight loss/diet.

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fill your dinner/breakfast/lunch plate once and only once with beneficials and some neutrals (no excessive stacking of food either) and stay away from fast food as much as possible and excessive TV watching.

take some bromelain for the aches 500mg three times a day on empty stomach and lower dose as aches dissipate.

Lastly...walk for 40 minutes every day


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I've had some wheat and dairy avoids lately


there lies the problem, I believe.


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GS,
the Metabolic water therapy sounds great!
thanks for posting....
let us know if you keep loosing weight.


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RESULTS OF METABOLIC WATER THERAPY=

LOST 14 LBS IN 7 DAYS!   And it's easy to do,  read above  reply 2,  I'm so excited!
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METABOLIC WATER THERAPY

Do you have a link, book or magazine title, etc. to the source of information about the Metabolic Water Therapy?



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Don- It was on the cover of FIRST- was sold around the 1st by registers in grocery stores, with the other magazine  ( I didn't try to copy the title of it, I thought of it as a therapy for weight loss, and called it that here)  The cover is green in color. big article explaining everything, in detail.  It made so much sense, I had to give it a try.  There success was listed as being able to lose almost 10 pounds each week.
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geminisue, Thanks, now others can read the article if they want to.


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sounds like something anyone can do!
no additives or amphetamines just water!
thanks for sharing!


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