Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register


Main Forum Page  ♦   Latest Posts  ♦   Member Center  ♦   Search  ♦   Archives   ♦   Help   ♦   Log In/Out   ♦   Admins
Forum Login
Login Name: Create a new account
Password:     Forgot password

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    Eat Right 4 Your Type  ›  deli meat
Users Browsing Forum
Googlebot and 10 Guests

deli meat  This thread currently has 623 views. Print Print Thread
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
dirrty_blonde_mp
Sunday, August 12, 2007, 4:45pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 239
Gender: Female
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
hey sorry i forgot i also wanted to get everyone's opinion on deli meats. i love sliced oven roasted turkey breast from the grocery store deli, is that still considered neutral for type b's?
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message
RedLilac
Sunday, August 12, 2007, 4:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

SWAMI tweaked Explorer Super Taster from Illinois
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 3,010
Gender: Female
Location: Lombard, Illinois (Chicago suburb)
Age: 63
It's OK for our blood type.  If you buy the packaged stuff, read the ingrediants.

I buy my deli meats from Whole Foods.  Neither my son nor I have had any problems with it.


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
SWAMI Thanksgiving present 2008
Revised from Arlene B- NonSec to RedLilac on 3/31/06
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 1 - 21
Don
Sunday, August 12, 2007, 5:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Rh-, MN
Sam Dan
Posts: 7,189
Gender: Male
Location: North Alabama
Age: 58
Most of them will have avoid ingredients, also realize that the meat probably doesn't come from organic, free range, or even antibiotic free poultry.

I get some occasionally for my sons, but I don't let it become a major food source.


FIFHI; ISTP;
Started BTD 3/2002, with 2 O- secretor teenage sons
Logged Offline
Site Site Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 2 - 21
italybound
Sunday, August 12, 2007, 5:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

~Concealed~Carry~Hunter~
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 9,162
Location: Near St. Louis
Age: 58
Hormel makes pkg'd deli meats that are fairly devoid of avoids. Can't remember the specifics on them, but if you google for them, I'm sure you can get the ingredients from their site. Whole Foods has lots of chicken, turkey and beef hot dogs that are 'worth' eating.



Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 3 - 21
dirrty_blonde_mp
Sunday, August 12, 2007, 5:26pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 239
Gender: Female
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
thanks for the suggestions... i never thought of googling the ingredients before. i usually try to go for the oven roasted or cooked varieties because my dad is a chemical engineer and showed me a university report on msg and ever since then i have been very careful to try to avoid that awful stuff. the report showed rats that were fed msg becoming extremely obese and addicted to it... the report also showed a huge list of foods that contain msg and then you realize why so many people are "addicted" to certain foods. its not the foods, its the msg.
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 4 - 21
italybound
Sunday, August 12, 2007, 5:30pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

~Concealed~Carry~Hunter~
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 9,162
Location: Near St. Louis
Age: 58
you're right about msg.........nasty stuff  
Hormel doesnt contain MSG, nitrates or nitrites.
Applegate Farms makes some pretty good stuff too.



Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 5 - 21
Victoria
Sunday, August 12, 2007, 7:32pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Swami Nomad 56%
Sun Beh Nim
Moderator
Posts: 15,331
Gender: Female
Location: Oregon
Do you have access to a natural food store?  There are a couple of good brands that are much healthier for us to eat.  Diestel and Sheldons and maybe one other brand that I can't remember.

Read The Ingredients!!  



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
Logged
Site Site Private Message Private message Reply: 6 - 21
italybound
Sunday, August 12, 2007, 8:42pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

~Concealed~Carry~Hunter~
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 9,162
Location: Near St. Louis
Age: 58
Quoted from Victoria
 Diestel and Sheldons )


do you have  a website for Sheldons? I found Diestel, but not thiers. thanks



Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 7 - 21
Mitchie
Monday, August 13, 2007, 11:15am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Teacher
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 342
Gender: Female
Location: Denver, Colorado
Age: 61
Speaking of Sheldon's, I had some of their canned spicy chicken chili and aside from it being way overloaded with sodium it was very tasty.

But I've always been rather a salt junkie so maybe that was part of the enjoyment.  


Mitchie  
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 8 - 21
Lola
Tuesday, August 14, 2007, 12:39am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 50,672
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 57
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?248
why would msg be an O non secretor neutral, only....and an avoid for all?
any thoughts?


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 9 - 21
dirrty_blonde_mp
Tuesday, August 14, 2007, 9:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 239
Gender: Female
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
personally, i think the msg is prob. a typeo because it is very bad for you.
thanks for all the posts about deli meat but i was at the grocery store and looked at ingredients on most prepacked turkey and ive decided to just avoid it!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 10 - 21
SheriBerry
Wednesday, August 15, 2007, 11:47am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

O / Hunter
Ee Dan
Posts: 794
Gender: Female
Location: Rosemary Beach, Florida and Mobile Alabama
Age: 54
I've started cooking  turkey for my husband's lunches myself.  I buy  a whole boneless turkey breast at The Fresh Market.  That's my best source for fresh meat in my area.  So, I  cut it into cuttletts.  I arrange them in a glass pyrex.  I mix EITHER pommagranet juice, pinapple juice. blueberry juice, cherry juice  with some olive oil.. about 1 cup of each  for a large pyrex...  then I preheat the oven to 275 and bake for 2 hours.... it is  really wonderful and slices so great... it makes a wonderful sandwitch  and is cheaper than the  deli meat
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message ICQ ICQ YIM YIM Reply: 11 - 21
Peppermint Twist
Wednesday, August 15, 2007, 12:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer; iNfj; BTD/GTD aficionado; lost 97 lbs
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 11,011
Gender: Female
Location: Florida
Age: 52
Well, sheri is doing the ideal of cooking pure, natural meat and making her own slices for sandwiches.  Yay, sheri!!!!!  And she is right, that is cheaper as well as so much better for you, ingredients-wise.

That said, for those of us like me who never can seem to get our acts together to properly plan in advance and have ideally good stuff prepared, if you want deli meats, the absolute key to getting the purest choices is to READ THE LABELS.  Most of the ones in the regular supermarket (including "premium" brands such as Boar's Head, etc.) are loaded with avoids such as corn syrup (anything ending with "ose" is usually a corn sugar, such as "dextrose", etc.).  As a side tangent, this infuriates me because it is so unnecessary and unexpected by the general buying public.  Why would anyone assume that there is corn syrup added to turkey breast?  It makes NO SENSE.  But anyway, focus, P-Twist, and finish making your points before you go off on a major rant *lol*.

Your best bet other than preparing pure meats yourself like sheri does, is to shop at the health food store and STILL be sure to read the labels.  We don't have a Whole Foods here but they are the best one, imho.  They have lots of acceptable deli meat choices.  The little HFS in my city recently completed an expansion (finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and I have to hand it to them, they have really added a LOT of new things, new selections, new CHOICES, and all things that I had been hoping for!!!!  One of the best additions has been a greatly expanded deli case area containing many, MANY more non-frozen meat choices than they had before.  (...Well, actually, they had zero deli meats in their deli case before, but anyway!)  My fave is a brand of pre-sliced, seasoned roast beef called Wellshire Farms (I think it is Wellshire Farms, anyway).  The only avoid is black pepper.  And it is EXCELLENT roast beef.  Between them adding that and the Sami's millet & flax bread I discovered, it is a whole new, better, more liveable world for this O!!!  I can slap together a compliant roast beef sandwich now at the drop of a hat!  They have also added other deli meats but, since I read the ingredients label of each one, I know that only some are okay for me, and some do have added baddies.  Read, read, read, 'til you just can't read no mo'!!!

Some of the Wellshire Farms stuff, particularly the aforementioned roast beef, is excellent and compliant, and also some Applegate Farms or Apple-something-or-other stuff is okay.  NOT all, again.

Pop Quiz:

What is our mantra here at BTD Central?  

Answer Key:

Always, always, always read labels!!!  

Very good, you all get A's!!!  


"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

my Facebook page
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 12 - 21
SheriBerry
Wednesday, August 15, 2007, 7:01pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

O / Hunter
Ee Dan
Posts: 794
Gender: Female
Location: Rosemary Beach, Florida and Mobile Alabama
Age: 54
Hey P-twist.. well, thanks for the compliment, but actually it's me just being lazy because I do this recipe a lot  and it's just easier than standing in the line at the grocerie for the deli stuff... it's my  pet peave.. they always make me WAIT!!!!
Actually I do this in the oven.. the two hour thing.. when I'm at yoga classes on tues. and thurs. nights...  I leave the house at 6pm.. so if I put it in at  5:30, the meal is all ready when I walk in the door.. Even if I'm making beef or lamb patties or chicken breasts, I'll throw in turkey for  the next few days' lunches..  SOOooO.. it's more just killing a few  birds with one stone... ( what an awful metiphor!  I love birds!)  but hey! thanks for the vote of  on the ball cook...lol.. it's  just easier and cheaper to do it this way...
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message ICQ ICQ YIM YIM Reply: 13 - 21
Lola
Wednesday, August 15, 2007, 7:08pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT1; L (a-b-); (se); PROP-T; NN
Sa Bon Nim
Admin & Columnist
Posts: 50,672
Gender: Female
Location: ''eternal spring'' Cuernavaca - Mex.
Age: 57
sheri,
thanks for the recipe!
here s another one from the old boards....
Quoted Text
pastrami
turkey breasts.

1/2 large turkey breast
sprinkle with garlic powder and paprika powder
Since all our regular supermarket meat is koshered (salted) I don't salt the turkey, so y'all who use non-kosher turkey should probably add salt.

Smear the powders well all over the breast. Heat a small amount of virgin olive oil in a Teflon pan. Heat till hot, but don't burn it! Add breast, whole, and singe well on both sides. Cover pan with good cover and cook for about 15 minutes on a very low flame. The timing here depends on how thick the breast is.
This past week they had some really big turkey breasts at the meat section, so I bought a few of them, because the bigger the better.
After cooking for 15-20 minutes, I keep the turkey in the pan, covered, until it's cooled completely. Refrigerate like any good deli-meat, and slice thin.
This is even better than the store bought. My oldest son just came in and is very happy to find some leftover in the fridge.
You can do the same with chicken breasts, just cook a bit less.


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
Logged
Private Message Private message YIM YIM Reply: 14 - 21
Peppermint Twist
Wednesday, August 15, 2007, 7:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Gatherer; iNfj; BTD/GTD aficionado; lost 97 lbs
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 11,011
Gender: Female
Location: Florida
Age: 52
Quoted from cybrsheri
Hey P-twist.. well, thanks for the compliment, but actually it's me just being lazy because I do this recipe a lot  and it's just easier than standing in the line at the grocerie for the deli stuff... it's my  pet peave.. they always make me WAIT!!!!

You know what?  That is a very excellent point and it reminds me of how I feel about eating out in restaurants anymore.  I used to LOVE it and now I can't stand it, not unless the restaurant is really something special and since I live in the area I live in, where mainstream chains abound, that is a rarity.  But back to my point (I did the digressing thing AGAIN, dang it!), not only is eating at home a far superior choice in terms of the quality, purity, compliance and cost of the food, but actually, contrary to popular belief, I say that it is SO much easier, less time consuming and more relaxing to prepare it at home than to go out to a restaurant (or wait in a deli line)!!!  With a minimal amount of planning (therein lies the rub for moi *lol*, but anyway...) and preparation, you have healthy, compliant, nourishing food and so much MORE time to yourself.  Yet people think it is faster to stand in a long line at a deli, or wait around for some new-fangled, high-tech beeper to vibrate while you wait at a restaurant to be seated (what a Brave New World that is--but that's for another post).  Anyway, I totally agree with your point.  Homemade, whole compliant foods are so much EASIER and more quality-of-life inducing in every way.
Quoted from cybrsheri
Actually I do this in the oven.. the two hour thing.. when I'm at yoga classes on tues. and thurs. nights...  I leave the house at 6pm.. so if I put it in at  5:30, the meal is all ready when I walk in the door.. Even if I'm making beef or lamb patties or chicken breasts, I'll throw in turkey for  the next few days' lunches..  SOOooO.. it's more just killing a few  birds with one stone... ( what an awful metiphor!  I love birds!)  but hey! thanks for the vote of  on the ball cook...lol.. it's  just easier and cheaper to do it this way...

Exactly!  And one can be at a yoga class or mowing the lawn or spending quality time with the kiddos or cleaning the cat box ...the possibilities are endless *lol*, while your food is cooking.

I love the BTD lifestyle.  ...It's only too bad I don't practice what I preach more ideally than I do, but oh well.  We do what we can!


"If you are on one of Dr. D's diets and it isn't joyful, you aren't doing it right." - moi

my Facebook page
Logged
Private Message Private message Reply: 15 - 21
MzMoonpie
Thursday, August 16, 2007, 3:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

GT2-Gatherer
Autumn: Harvest, success.
Posts: 137
Gender: Female
Location: Western Kentucky
If you have not yet tried the Hormel Naturals, do so. I bought some last night (at Kroger!!) and had a roast beef sandwich (on spelt bread of course) for breakfast. Yay for protein!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 16 - 21
Debra+
Thursday, August 16, 2007, 3:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Eat BTD...Healthy Body... Happier Soul 'Gatherer'
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 5,812
Gender: Female
Location: Kirkland Lake, Northern Ontario, Canada
Age: 56
Quoted from lola
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?248
why would msg be an O non secretor neutral, only....and an avoid for all?
any thoughts?



Not for this O nonnie. Ten minutes after ingesting it is run, run, run to the bathroom and then my skin becomes very itchy.  O that individuality thing agian.

Debra


"Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves." C.G. Jung"

O+nonT

CBP (Certified BodyTalk Practitioner)
Mindscape (remote/distant healing)
Traditional Chinese Medicine
Accunect Practitioner...in training to teach Self-Care
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 17 - 21
SheriBerry
Thursday, August 16, 2007, 7:48pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

O / Hunter
Ee Dan
Posts: 794
Gender: Female
Location: Rosemary Beach, Florida and Mobile Alabama
Age: 54
I actually don't consume any processed food... no bread at all... I  do eat some dried fruit.. is that considered processed?  I can say that I don't eat anything in a wrapper or box..  I just don't feel right  or good after I eat things other than meat and veggies.. oh, wait.. olive oil is processed.. I eat a lot of that...  but any type of bread just puts weight on me FAST!
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message ICQ ICQ YIM YIM Reply: 18 - 21
Debra+
Thursday, August 16, 2007, 8:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

Eat BTD...Healthy Body... Happier Soul 'Gatherer'
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 5,812
Gender: Female
Location: Kirkland Lake, Northern Ontario, Canada
Age: 56
Quoted from cybrsheri
I actually don't consume any processed food... no bread at all... I  do eat some dried fruit.. is that considered processed?  I can say that I don't eat anything in a wrapper or box..  I just don't feel right  or good after I eat things other than meat and veggies.. oh, wait.. olive oil is processed.. I eat a lot of that...  but any type of bread just puts weight on me FAST!


Cold Pressed Extra Virgin Olive Oil is what you want sheri.

Debra



"Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves." C.G. Jung"

O+nonT

CBP (Certified BodyTalk Practitioner)
Mindscape (remote/distant healing)
Traditional Chinese Medicine
Accunect Practitioner...in training to teach Self-Care
Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 19 - 21
Stormstryk
Saturday, September 1, 2007, 9:07pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
Guest User
Blech!! Never seen msg listed on prunes! Thanks for the heads up though, I'll start double checking. I know that http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html lists LOTS of MSG containing "ingredients" that are even present in "No MSG Added" type foods.  What a nightmare!

A few to watch out for -

These ALWAYS contain MSG

Glutamate
Glutamic acid
Gelatin
Monosodium glutamate
Calcium caseinate
Textured protein (TVP)
Monopotassium glutamate
Sodium caseinate
Yeast nutrient
Yeast extract
Yeast food
Autolyzed yeast
Hydrolyzed protein (any protein that is hydrolyzed)
Hydrolyzed corn gluten
Natrium glutamate (natrium is Latin/German for sodium)

These OFTEN contain MSG or create MSG during processing

Carrageenan
Maltodextrin
Malt extract
Natural pork flavoring (BLECH!!)
Citric acid
Malt flavoring
Bouillon and Broth
Natural chicken flavoring
Soy protein isolate
Natural beef flavoring
Ultra-pasteurized Soy sauce
Stock
Barley malt
Soy sauce extract
Whey protein concentrate
Pectin Soy protein
Whey protein
Protease
Soy protein concentrate
Whey protein isolate
Protease enzymes
Anything protein fortified
Flavors(s) & Flavoring(s)
Anything enzyme modified
Anything fermented
Natural flavor(s) & flavoring(s)
Enzymes anything
Seasonings (the word "seasonings")
Logged
E-mail E-mail Reply: 20 - 21
italybound
Sunday, September 2, 2007, 12:03am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

~Concealed~Carry~Hunter~
Kyosha Nim
Posts: 9,162
Location: Near St. Louis
Age: 58



Logged Offline
Private Message Private message Reply: 21 - 21
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
Print Print Thread

BTD Forums    Diet and Nutrition    Eat Right 4 Your Type  ›  deli meat

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread