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Yma
Sunday, August 12, 2007, 7:08am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I am travelling extensively through India and unfortunately Beef, which is highly beneficial for my Type O, is not available to buy or to eat in restaurants because cows are regarded as sacred animals by the Hindu religion.  However, mutton (super tough old sheep) is available and so is chicken. (Also, there is no hygene controls in India and so I have battled endless bouts of stomach and intestinal infections, shigellas and salmonellas, when eating meat here.)  My question,  is there anything in beef that I don't get from mutton or chicken?  I have been feeling low energy and mild depression, is this due to not eating beef?
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Hi Yma, nice to meet you

I'd say that if you've been dealing with continual bouts of stomach and intestinal problems, that's the source of the depression and low energy. Mutton is a beneficial meat for both secretor and non-secretor Os, while chicken is neutral for both. However, if getting clean cooked meat is a problem, you might be better off eating more vegetables and keeping meat consumption to a minimum. Nuts and some seeds are a somewhat lesser but okay emergency source of protein, if you can get them. I hesitate to recommend eggs, since they can also cause sickness if not cooked properly. Soy is also an option if you can get it, although again, not an ideal one for many Os.

Hope this helps. Welcome to the board!


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Hi Yma

Iíve been to India twice, once to Northern and once to Southern.  3 weeks each trip.  I donít eat chicken, but the mutton didnít bother me.  Most meals are served with plain yogurt Ė EAT IT.   Also there is a local drink that the Brits told us about and my son loved, but the name escapes me at the moment.  I believe it has tonic in it.  DONíT DRINK THE WATER !!!  If you canít get bottled water, then use purifier tablets.  The 1st trip we got complacent near the end and accepted some rose water.  Ĺ our group got sick.  I didnít have any problem with hot tea probably since it was boiled.  Also raw vegies might be rinsed off in the local water.

When Victoria comes on sheíll have more advice for you.  Sheís been to India more than I have.  I ate lots of eggs and rice.


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Most meals are served with plain yogurt Ė EAT IT.  


Yma, wishing you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums!!  

Dairy yogurt is an avoid for O's,,,,,,,,,,if it's buffalo or sheep yogurt, those are prob neutrals. As I understand they are both okay in any event.

Maybe Accidental Chef will come on too.............she has lots of experience traveling



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Hi Yma,
I agree with Brig that your state of not feeling quite right is due to your digestive problems.  During my 5 months in southwestern India, my whole family and I got quite sick with roundworm, giardia and ameobas.  We had to take the chemical cure in order to get back on our feet.  With us, the problem was drinking contaminated water.
I didn't worry much about the meat, vegetables and eggs if they were well cooked.  I had big concerns about raw fruits, unless I had my own bottled water to wash them in.  I did not eat raw salads.

As a B, I ate lots of water buffalo yogurt, ghee, cooked vegetables and rice, also cooked legumes even though they were avoids.  There were few choices, especially for one who doesn't eat wheat.  Mutton will be as good for you as beef, even if it is tough and doesn't taste as good as the lamb we are used to.  The problem can be getting enough protein, so try and keep eating proteins any way you can manage.  Garlic, ginger and tumeric can be helpful for your digestion.

Good luck!  



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Yma
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Thankyou all for the quick replies.  I got the shigella's from eating too much chicken, thinking it was safer than mutton!  Anyway, I have a great machine called a frequency generator, it's been developed by a guy in India and is based on the Hulda Clark zapper, only it's much more advanced and zaps every disease imaginable.  I was able to zap away my shigella, H. Pylori, Conjunctivitis etc.  MUCH better than taking antibiotic, because I feel energised after zapping whereas antibiotics made me feel really fatigued.  
I have never suffered so much before (on the body level), yet it's worth it to be experiencing the magic of India.  The local meat store is a tiny little hut on the side of the road with an Indian guy barely fitting inside, surrounded by meat, all placed and cut on the dirty wooden floor.  I got such a shock, and the sight was almost enough to turn me back to vegetarian!  I asked, and the guy insisted that it was fresh..
Is water buffalo yogurt ok for type O?  And how do you know it comes from a buffalo?  Buffalo is very similar to a cow.
Also, Bladderwrack is something highly recommended for my type (prevents H.Pylori), only it's not available in India. Is there anything else that is equivalent or nearly as good?  
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no yogurt for Os.......due to whey.....
goat and sheep cheese has no whey and is neutral.....as well as mozzarella and others.

on fucus
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Hi Yma,

What part of India are you in?

I spent 4 weeks in Northern India this summer and I didn't have much digestive trouble at all while there, but I also didn't have much opportunity to eat meat (so perhaps I avoided many of the hygiene issues). †On the few occasions that I did eat meat or eggs, I found that they were very well cooked (as was most of the food I ate), so as to eliminate any remaining pathogens. †Try to get animal protein where possible, but make sure it is piping hot and prepared by a reputable source. †

I ate mainly rice, chapati bread, dal (PROTEIN!), veggies, and fruit while there. †I tried to eat as much fruit as I could (since it was nearly always type O beneficial - mangos, bananas, pineapple, etc) and focus on eating my dal (since this was my best source of protein). †I avoided chapati bread as much as I could and chose more rice instead. †

It is very important to take probiotics to help protect your digestive tract. †Are you able to find any probiotics in a chemist shop or health store there? †Look for even your basic acidophilus. †It may also help to take digestive enzymes if you can find them. †It is important to maintain your electrolyte balance in the heat - if not, this can also really wreck your digestion. †The simple solution I used was to carry sea salt with me everywhere and add a pinch to my water. †It should be possible to find sea salt there. †Finally, try to eat smaller, lighter meals if it is hot - this is one of the rules for diet in the summer as excess heat causes many people to get ill from over-feeding.

I'm writing a few blogs on my experiences in India - you can check them out by clicking on the blog link in my signature.


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Quoted from Whimsical
Look for even your basic acidophilus..


From my understanding, acidophillus is not the correct probiotic for O's.  If I understand Dr D correctly, taking the wrong one is like taking none at all. Throwing your money down the drain. Have a look at the probiotics in Polyflora O.  
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BT003
Click on Type O and you'll have your info.  



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Nothing wrong with acidophilus in the short run to help a type O deal with certain digestive system issues, such as for diarrhea and others listed in ER4YT and LR4YT.


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From my understanding, acidophillus is not the correct probiotic for O's.  If I understand Dr D correctly, taking the wrong one is like taking none at all. Throwing your money down the drain.


This is to what I was referring:
"Dr. D says:
Most studies show that if the strains are not chosen correctly there will be
no permanent changes to the gut from probiotic doses of any amount. As long as
you keep taking the humongous CFU formulas (and paying for them) the bacteria
will remain in there. Within two weeks of doing these formulas, the
population almost always reverts to what it was before. The idea is to use the
best strains for your blood type and include the blood type optimum
prebiotics as well."
Thanks for that info Lola




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I had guessed that is what you were referring to since Lola had recently posted it, but what I am saying is that in certain cases acidophilus can be effectively and beneficially used medicinally as described in the books. Plus I am sure it is much easier to find then PolyFlora in India.


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