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speedy
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Hi everyone - has anybody any ideas for keeping weight down on Blood Group O - I have only to eat a banana and the flab appears the morning after - seem to exist on broccoli, meat and fish and a few carrots apples and rice cakes for breakfast - do eat loads of soya marg and olive oil - all suggestions appreciated
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...do eat loads of soya marg and olive oil...


I'm wondering if the soya marg is such a good idea? What are the ingredients? Perhaps, replace that with ghee.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Are you watching your portions? It sounds like you're very careful on the diet so that's the only thing I can think of.

I'm a total newbie to the diet - I restarted it on Wednesday and like you I am an O. I've dropped 6 pounds already with the elimination of grain and dairy and focusing on beneficials. I haven't used any butter or margarine this week at all (not even ghee) - maybe Drea has a point.

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O´s  need fat as well
the ghee suggestion is good.
My 13 yo O eats quite a lot of fat and she seems to have no problem keepinh her weight down... but give her a few slices of bread- even neutral and she gets chubby.

Speedy are you really oveweight ?
your diet seems pretty limited to me- embrace the variety of good food


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Rice cakes are not really a type Os friend, particularly if you are trying to lose weight.

I can tell difference in my waist by the end of a package rice cakes if I eat a couple every day.


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Thanks for clarifying my point, Sam.

Speedy, I didn't mean to imply that you shouldn't have ghee. I just meant that I hadn't had any. I use olive oil for needed fat.

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Why don't you give us a true days worth of eating, food eaten, amount of food eaten and put it into meals or snacks, including the times would help too.  Maybe we could put our heads together and help you.  Also Would you share your weight?  If over 250 you may eat man size portions of protein meats, fish, poultry.  I will build up muscle mass which will burn calories faster, thereforth you would lose more weight.
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I second Mikeo, I am finally trying to get 2 good walks in a day with my dog, it may actually be the obvious answer....
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speedy,
you sound much like me!
why not take the secretor test and get the answer to your slow metabolism.
you might just happen to a nonnie for whom grains, dairy and so much more are off limits...
we do get our rewards, though!


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Thanks to you all fvor your really helpful suggestions - I intend working through them to get to the bottam of this - maybe it will help others too with similar situations. Soya marg first - the anyalsis shows
Soy oil 49%
Veg Oils
Salt 0.79%
Emulsifier (mono & Diglycerides of Vegetable fatty acids
Vit e (natural flavouring)
Vit B6
Folic Acid
Vit A Colour (natural Carotene)
Vit D as D2
Vit B12.

It is marketed under the name PURE - I didnt think it was too unhealthy - what do others think?
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Quoted from speedy
Thanks to you all fvor your really helpful suggestions - I intend working through them to get to the bottam of this - maybe it will help others too with similar situations. Soya marg first - the anyalsis shows
Soy oil 49%
Veg Oils
Salt 0.79%
Emulsifier (mono & Diglycerides of Vegetable fatty acids
Vit e (natural flavouring)
Vit B6
Folic Acid
Vit A Colour (natural Carotene)
Vit D as D2
Vit B12.

It is marketed under the name PURE - I didnt think it was too unhealthy - what do others think?


Soy oil is an avoid !!!
And really even for those A´s where it is an neutral -not the best .......
It contains over 50 % of omega 6- and only around 8 % omega 3 which gives it arather unhealthy status !
At the same time it is very processed to make a margarine....

Please tell us a bit about yourself and what you eat during a typically day
and HOW much you exercise... it is far more important for all bt..than most of think....





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I would say don't eat very much at night.  You burn a lot of calories while you sleep, so if you go to bed on an un-full stomach, you'll burn off more at night.

Also, are you drinking coffee?  If so, I'd stop that.  Also, try eating more non-caloric fiber in general:  just dark green leafy vegetables without much if any sauce.  Pumpkin is also good.

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geminisue...huh...what... do you see anything I apologize dearle, it wasn't my intention to hurt anybody ........
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I'm at a healthy/normal weight, but with hypothyroidism, my metabolism is compromised  and it is a constant struggle to maintain my weight.  I want to lose the 5 lbs. that I gained since Jan., but it's not imperative since my weight is normal.  I do however concentrate on not gaining weight.  I've found that staying away from the high sugar foods even if they are beneficial or neutral will keep me from gaining weight. .  . bananas are extremely high in sugar, so I avoid them.  I'm very new to BTD, but I'm trying it for health reasons more than weight reasons.  Try reading about the Atkins diet or a low glycemic index diet to learn which foods may cause unstable blood sugar and avoid those, even if they are on beneficial or neutral list.  Then you can slowly add them once you start losing weight.  Especially stay away from any wheat/gluten/grains -- these are sure to inhibit weight loss, and they will put weight on very fast.  Unstable blood sugar will cause difficulties in losing weight.   Also, exercising is sooooo important, but monitor your heart rate.  If it gets too high then you are burning muscle instead of fat.  I do pilates 3x week + 4 days of some type of aerobic exercise (fast walking, bike riding, etc.) for at least 45 min.  It takes this much exercise for me to not gain weight.  For Type O's wanting to lose weight,  limiting carbs to about 30/day and 90% of them from vegetables will be incredibly helpful.  Then once you start losing, slowly add more complex carbs such as acceptable beans, fruits, etc.  Hope this helps.  Good luck to you.
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What really helped me to lose weight was to always eat protien before I eat any carbs.  The book that really helped me was "The Carbohydrate Addicts Life Span Program", By Dr. Richard F. Heller and Dr. Rachael F. Heller.  They do a good job of explaining insulin releases, your liver, blood sugar levels, and uncontrolable hunger cravings.  They also recommend the BTD on their site.  I was able to lose 75 lbs following their program and have kept it off for 6yrs.  It's not a starvation diet.  It's a life style change of the way you eat.  I feel so good when I follow the program that if ever I'm in a position where I can't follow it and I eat what's available, I can't wait to get back on it the next day.  Not only did I face ridicule for the BTD but also for following this program.  It made my family mad,  because I wouldn't join them in their eating binges like I used to do.  The fight has been worth it, because I feel great,  and God has been my strength the whole way.
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Looks like I need to get rid of the PURE margarine - will switch to olive oil - ghee takes a while too make and I am working extra hours at work all summer - will try and buy some - i think sainsbury's sell it here in England - will set down the daily food as soon as I can - do vitamins make any difference - i seem to take loads at the moment - probably that is why I am content with a fairly stringent diet -love to hear from you all
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Asian food shops usually sell ghee (we get it here in a green tin). It's used a lot in Indian cooking.
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Maybe I am eating too much - a typical day is:
On rising - a few tablespoons of unsweetned pineapple , a mouthful of tuna canned in brine.
About an hour later for breakfast
1 Grapefruit plus a boiled egg plus 3 ricecakes and pure soya marg.
About 10.30 - 11am - 1 apple.
Lunch about 12.30 - large salad with lettuce radishes another apple and red onion with olive oil and lemon dressing topped by a small tin of sardines in olive oil.
About 3pm - an apple and about 4pm another mouthful of tuna.
About 6pm large plate of broccoli courgettes carrots and either fish, chicken or beef - good 6oz serving.
Nothing else until morning.

I do feel I eat a lot but it seems to suit me - could have an unstable blood sugar.

comments appreciated!!
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Maybe I am eating too much - a typical day is:
On rising - a few tablespoons of unsweetned pineapple , a mouthful of tuna canned in brine.
About an hour later for breakfast
1 Grapefruit plus a boiled egg plus 3 ricecakes and pure soya marg.
About 10.30 - 11am - 1 apple.
Lunch about 12.30 - large salad with lettuce radishes another apple and red onion with olive oil and lemon dressing topped by a small tin of sardines in olive oil.
About 3pm - an apple and about 4pm another mouthful of tuna.
About 6pm large plate of broccoli courgettes carrots and either fish, chicken or beef - good 6oz serving.
Nothing else until morning.

I do feel I eat a lot but it seems to suit me - could have an unstable blood sugar.

comments appreciated!!


I'm thinking that you should eat more beneficial fruits, and ditch the two or three apples (neutrals) a day, and the soya marg (see my post above). Are you able to keep to the lower end of the frequency/portions listed in ER4YT? I found it too hard to do so I'm keeping score in SparkPeople.com, just for a while, to get myself back on track.

Exercise: do you do enough of it for an O? That's the other key.


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Speedy, the other thing I see is that most of the foods that you do eat are rated as neutrals. It's really important to eat as many beneficials as you can. Try to choose beneficials over neutrals, and avoid avoids.

Maybe some of the O secretors can pipe in on a list of beneficial fruits.


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Most O's who are really happy with their eating programs are eating beef or lamb with breakfast.  

And three rice cakes is a lot of carb early in the day.  The margarine is not a healthy addition to your day.  I agree with everyone else on that one.  

And Drea is so right. . . eat more beneficials.  Anytime we are dealing with a health issue or weight problem, we are encouraged to really focus on the Beneficials.



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Cynthia,
very powerful testimonial!
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How do people have time to eat meat at breakfast?  My mornings don't really allow for cooking. Can anyone suggest a quick meat to eat for breakfast?
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I always try to have precooked meat available for breakfast. It can be as simple as reheating a beef, bison, or lamb burger or a little more time consuming in slicing a serving of lamb or beef roast.


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So do you just keep a cooked beef roast in your fridge and slice a couple pieces off for breakfast? I'll have to try that, I guess. Maybe cook it in the crock pot so it has some moisture and then keep it in the fridge for easy slicing during the week?
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eating this way is a blessing....goodbye cravings and low sugar swings!
also have root veggies ready for when you feel you need some compliant starch in your diet.


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On preparing... I have dusted off my George Foreman grill and that's how I'm cooking all the meat in the morning believe it or not. It's fast, easy clean up and I can get ready for the day while the cooks away!

Others have recommended cooking up some burger or salmon patties and then reheating them. I have more time on my hand right now so I'm relying on ol' George more. But when I get back to work, I expect I will be doing some solid weekend cooking for the week. Menu planning... ugh.

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Another way to deal with this ! eating more protein in the early part of the day"
is to cook more food in the evening - and just eat it cold for breakfast .
Like cold beef, turkeybreast in the morning with broccoli and the rest of a salad it ok for my daughter
- however she prefers eggs. So if she gets up late I always stock a few hardboiled eggs to eat on the way to the buss with some fruit and cold veggies.
I also keep uncooked turkey patties frozen in the freezer
- parboil them before I fry them with eggs in ghee- add a few veggies - easy and good.

Just think ahead  


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Whenever I cook meat or fish for dinner I cook enough to have left overs for breakfast.

Lola, thanx for the encouragement.
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My husband usually takes the dinner leftovers for lunch the next day.  So I suppose I'll just have to roast some meat to keep in the fridge for the week.  
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My husband usually takes the dinner leftovers for lunch the next day.  So I suppose I'll just have to roast some meat to keep in the fridge for the week.  


Or make him share!  


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Eat your left overs for breakfast... it sounds crazy but that's what I do... that way you don't have to worry about having or not having the time too cook... you are just heating them up.

Since I have worked shift work... I don't look at as breakfast I just look at it 's another meal.

I save my fruit for the afternoon.  I am a morning person and the afternoon is when I need it.  My recommendation is no more than a 2 day... if you want some at every meal then cut them up and divide it

I drink a sip of water after eat bite and always try and put down my fork.  This helps me with my portion control.... and portion control is Very VERY important.  It helps fill me up.

I pay very close attention to my hands.  If they are swollen then I know I need to cut back on the carbs.  I only eat bread when it's homemade.  

I also pick my battles.... instead of trying to elimate all avoids then I pick and choose them.  Example:  Some times I choose cheese or I will choose 1 cookie or a milk shake... Try with no more than 1 avoid a day then cut it down to 2-3 a week then maybe 1 a week.  If you are eatting 80% benefits then you are on the right track as far as I am concerned.

The important thing is to not try and do everything at once... Try and make 1 change every 2 wks... if you have trouble then try one thing every month.  I tryed to make one change every week and that was just too much for me...

The very... Very.... VERY... best tip I can give you.  Is to be honest with yourself.  If you are an emotional eatter... as I am.  Then you have to address that 1st and formost.  No diet will solve your problem.  Or it will be a temp fix for a while.  If you are an emotional eatter then you really need to look at getting support by joining an OA group (Overeaters Anonymous)

Supplements - I have a slight thyroid problem - it not consider issue in VA but other states consider it an issue.  I take Kelp or Bladderwack everyday and I have elminated Floride from water tooth paste and denist, I don't eat any raw broccoci or cabbage.  These are some of the things I do to help with the thyroid issue.



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I drink a sip of water after eat bite and always try and put down my fork.


glad that works for you......I would suggest you drink a whole glass of water a half hour before lunch and not sips of water during lunch.......you can then have another glass of water an hour or more after you ve had lunch.
chewing your food thoroughly and eating slowly will help your gastric juices do their work.


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No leftovers in this house - piggie here eats the lot - plate piled high with broccoli - always more hungary when tired and it has to be very hot. One reason why I eat a lot of apples - they have the sweet crunch - I did eye up the cherries and lovely plums on the market stall this week but cannot trust myself to eat the lot in one sitting so i declined to buy - sad really but I do work hard up and down stairs all day!
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I'm thinking that you should eat more beneficial fruits, and ditch the two or three apples (neutrals) a day, ...

And apples are downgraded to a type O neutral infrequently in all the Health Library books.



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left overs from dinner or lunch....


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I am trying to look at apples in a different light - the difficulty is the other O benificial are so squashy and slip down too easily and gone too quick - I am not a smoothy lover - apples have a real bite and crunch
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I used to be the biggest apple lover! Now I never eat them.

Also, hopefully you are buying organic apples or are taking special precautions to try to wash the chemicals off of them, since apples are listed by EWG as the second worst food for pesticide residue.


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What really helped me to lose weight was to always eat protien before I eat any carbs.  The book that really helped me was "The Carbohydrate Addicts Life Span Program", By Dr. Richard F. Heller and Dr. Rachael F. Heller.  They do a good job of explaining insulin releases, your liver, blood sugar levels, and uncontrolable hunger cravings.  They also recommend the BTD on their site.  I was able to lose 75 lbs following their program and have kept it off for 6yrs.  It's not a starvation diet.  It's a life style change of the way you eat.  I feel so good when I follow the program that if ever I'm in a position where I can't follow it and I eat what's available, I can't wait to get back on it the next day.  Not only did I face ridicule for the BTD but also for following this program.  It made my family mad,  because I wouldn't join them in their eating binges like I used to do.  The fight has been worth it, because I feel great,  and God has been my strength the whole way.



Cynthia, last night I purchased what I thought was this book you talk about but turns out it's only the Cookbook.  Given all the wonderful recipes we have out here do you think it's worthwhile keeping the cookbook or just take it back and get the Life Span book?  


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I'm with Speedy ... that crunch and slurp you get with a good apple just can't be beat by a soft mango.  I do eat organic.


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I always cook extra meat with my dinner so I can have left overs for breakfast.
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I'm at my desired weight.. 97 lbs. on a 4' 10 frame... I don't want to let the weight creep up, so I watch it.
I used to  have coffee with cream and sugar for breakfast... now I just have green tea.. nothing in it.. nothing to eat.. I know most people say to eat breakfast, but this just works for me.    I now drink a small glass of pinapple juice with my plain green tea.
no snacks... at lunch I have a very large salad of romain lettuce with either 2 oz.  ground beef or walnuts and dried cherries... topped with olive oil only....
no snacks till dinner... dinner is usually  small portion of beef... 2 to 4 oz.... or fish...  lots of veggies like roasted onions, kale, parsnips, and other bennie veggies.... with lots of curry, turmeric and olive oil....
occasionally I have some figs or plums  when I feel really hungry.. but for ME, I try not to snack between meals.. also,  when I sit down to a meal, I eat until I am really satisfied.. I  usually have a nice  big dinner of veggies, so I'm  not really hungry in the mornings..
I'm 47.. I know breakfast is supposed to be important, but I gain when I eat breakfast... I just know my own body by now.... I just don't eat rice cakes, Ezekiel bread, manna bread, rice,  at all.. just makes me gain.   This isn't going to work for everyone, and it's probably not a great example, but I just wanted to share what works for me.  
I get a ton of exercise..  power yoga most days.. some tennis..  some walking.. some gardening.. some cleaning...  also, DRINK LOTS OF  PURE WATER EVERY DAY!!  lots!!
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How do people have time to eat meat at breakfast?  My mornings don't really allow for cooking. Can anyone suggest a quick meat to eat for breakfast?


Um....  you get up a little earlier?  Radical concept, I know...



OK.

Just teasing.

Most of my cooking (when I can't persuade my wife that she's the cook...) is done at night. It's very easy to grill more-than-enough lamb-chops for supper and have 'em in the fridge the next day or two. I can eat lamb cold, but if I want it warmed, it takes less than a minute in the nuker.
Or, I fry myself a couple of eggs, and throw the chop in while the pan is warming. By the time the pan is up to speed and the eggs are cooked, the chop is warm enough.  Those'd be some of my favorite breakfasts.

To all you folks who will now suggest kale... I'm not really a greens-in-the-morning kinda guy, except for green string-beans... or maybe spinach.

I buy most of my lamb from Costco. You get these big flats of eight or ten chops, and each chop is 2.5 to 3 cm thick....    mmmmmmmmmmmm

Sheri Lewis had the right idea - Lambchop is good.      

(Bad joke, and you have to be kinda old to get it.)

Kevin (who has about 5 or 6 reasonably compliant days per week and is slowly slimming)
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glad that works for you......I would suggest you drink a whole glass of water a half hour before lunch and not sips of water during lunch.......you can then have another glass of water an hour or more after you ve had lunch.
chewing your food thoroughly and eating slowly will help your gastric juices do their work.


HAH!  I'm in my second year of NOT doing that.

I've got so much hardware in my mouth that only a couple of teeth actually touch, so that's where I chew until I get bored and then I swallow the mess while it's still very coarse.   Appetizing thought, huh?

My gut is not entirely happy with this state of affairs. Another year, some surgery, and another ten or twenty thousand bucks, and I'll be able to chew like normal people.  Something to look forward to.

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Yow!  Sheri!   Your entire day's food  sounds like my idea of a light lunch.

But then, I'm a little taller, I'm male, and I'm currently 220 pounds (down from 245 earlier this year).

I find that the higher the percentage of my intake is meat, the denser my muscles get (without extra exercise... gotta love that) and the more the fat burns off.  But I'm married to a B+ so I'm constantly having things that I shouldn't.

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Sherri On a 4'10" frame your a terrific weight, and your eating so healthy, thank you for sharing what is successful, for you.
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Hey Geminisue!

I don't recomend my way of eating for just anyone because it's pretty limited.  I do switch the veggies around a lot... sweet potatoes, kale, onions, parsnips...  mostly all bennies... and just some meat..  LOTS of salad,  lots of oive oil....  but hey, at 47, I KNOW a great deal about my body.  and I fudged a little.. I'm not even quite 4'10"..lol... so I do have to watch it!

Heh, Kevin.. yep...  wish I could be a big boy and eat more!  
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I eat very similiar to what you do, but I eat greens, broccoli, and green beans with my 2 oz portions three times a day.  I am 5'2 1/2" tall, I've already lost 90+ lbs but have quite a bit more to go.  I'm averaging 1/2 lb loss a day. unless I eat something that is an avoid, that I get blocked up and have to lose it again.  It's the Won't Power I sometimes mess up.  
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Geminisue!!!!  congrats to YOuUuuU girl!!!    wow.. what a great success story!  we are close to the same height... well.. you're about 4 inches taller than I am.   but wow.. I'm impressed!!!!   90 + lbs?? that's amazing!  
I have been a bit zealous about my weight.. at one point I was down to 93.7... loved "looking" at the numbers, but it was too hard to  maintain that weight.. at about 97 I can eat enough, stay healthy, and feel great...  
I think you are doing a TERRIFFIC job.. I hope you are feeling well and not feeling deprived.. just keep thinking healthy and peaceful thoughts.... most over eating is emotional....
YOUUUU have inspired me!   I'm impressed!
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I eat much more than 2ozs portions - is this the problem? my lunch is 4ozs dinner 6ozs and two snacks in between of about 1oz ! dont think I have any avoids but he apple situation has really made me think as I eat loads - not organic and I confess not always washed properly - oh! dear!cannot eat nuts - I get cold sores and then need lysine - I am happy with lunch and dinner but breakfast is the big problem - maybe when I have more time to think about it and do it - am working too much overtime at the moment and the food situation is on "remote control"
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I eat much more than 2ozs portions - is this the problem? my lunch is 4ozs dinner 6ozs and two snacks in between of about 1oz !


As I've been discovering lately, it all depends on your body type (s-m-l), your height, weight, and how much exercise you get. Look to LR4YT for the portion sizes and frequencies for your type, and adjust from there. Most important is how you feel, me thinks.  


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I get cold sores ...

You may find that the BTD will reduce the frequency and maybe the severity of this problem.



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well, Speedy,  hate to say it, but calories are calories.. if you are heavier than you want to be you just need to cut back.  Drea is right.. you have to "feel" good, but if you are trying to keep your weight down you  have to watch calories and get more exercise.. sad but true.. there is no magic involved..
Funny, I've never gotten cold sores from nuts.. but everyone knows their own body... maybe that's just  what happens with you! just like I get terrible brain fog from almonds... weird, huh? and almond butter.. brain fog... even raw organic types... strange..
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hate to say it, but calories are calories..

That is not exactly true.
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Not surprisingly, different foods have different effects on the Thermic Effect of Feeding (TEF), which gives us just one more reason knowing the best foods for your blood type. One significant study demonstrated that during the normal six-hour resting metabolism period, we typically burn about 270 calories. When eating a single meal of carbohydrates alone or fat alone, the energy burned during this six-hour period reached 290 calories (an additional 20 calories). Interestingly, when eating protein alone the subjects in this study burned 310 calories during this six hour period (an additional 40 calories). It appears, protein alone had double the thermogenic potential over fat or carbs alone!

The whole NAP article is worth reading.


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thanks, don!
most interesting...
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Years ago in the early 1970's i was an early member of the new Weightwatchers - the diet was very strict - tomatoes and brussel sprouts had to be wighed and only 3 bare teaspoons of fat was allowed per DAY - I became very depressed and it made me quite ill - just like to let you all know sparing the olive oil could be a really bad thing!
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about thermic foods ...that's why CLA works sooo fine for O's ......
and dearle geminisue....biiig and congrats for your beautiful weighloss

I've still to go for my 9 kilos.....very   grrrr but I'll reach my aim as well ....
and yesss MoDonio when I stopped eating my 2 apples a day...I begun to loose weight, so it is even here the fruitsugar ..... I won't even mention about white chocolate makes moons that it is stopped .... I've to consacre one or two of my badies...no :-/ .......even when it hurts soooo much...why am I a nonnie.....tell me more about sechis ;) .......I am jealous for all who are that thinny that they just can eat what they want...... and no weightgain..... :( :( :(
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I still have a long way to go, thanks for the congrats, and I am continuing on.  
tweaking my meat servings was a start in the right direction, but I still have more I have to work on, it is difficult because of health issues, exercise is at a bare minimum, a extra movements, each day, but everything is improving as long as I'm doing what I'm suppose to be doing, and some days are better than others.  
Weight watchers has a point system now, my daughter and grand daughter are doing that for the time being, have another daughter, who is walking four miles a day, and eating three meals a day, and I have a son, who I don't know what he survives on, No Vegetables for Sure, and Very Little Fruit.  He eats meat, drinks vitamin water, coffee, red bull.  

No Veggies, because he can't stand the texture of it in his mouth, he says give them to me in a capsule one a day I'll take it.  I laugh and say if they have it I bet you would need to take more than that a day, he shakes his head, no way.  Only thing I notice is his hairs not growing on top of his head, but every place else plenty for everyone.    Don't think that's possible.
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Yes,  Isa, isn't it SO unfair that there are those people who can eat what they want ( which is a lot!) and never gain???   it's unjustice!  I think if I did that just for one DAY I'd gain about ten pounds.. no kidding...
and thanks for the heads up about the  fruit sugar...I'm SURE it's better than heading for the chips or something.. or icecream...  I head for a bowl of grapes when I feel that way... but I'm sure  all of that  sugar in the grapes puts a kinky in the system..  I notice my forhead breaks out when I eat too many grapes... must be the glycemic load getting too high..

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the sugar in grapes is too high for me - pineapple is doing the trick at the moment - not fresh cos I eat too much but in a tin unsweetened - it is a realy good mouthful and always in tupperware in the fridge nice and cold
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My suggestions, although a bit late...
Toss the rice cakes away, and balance your meals a bit more....like 5 oz meat/each meal.  I usually grill up a flank steak or something, on Sundays and that is what I take to work to eat.  You could do the same with breakfast.....just cook and extra portion at dinner the night before, and gently reheat the next morning.  As far as fruits go, I usually save that for a mid afternoon snack, a nice pick me up and not too close to lunch or dinner.  Most importantly for us type O's.....meat, meat, veggies, meat!!

Have you actually had your secretor status tested?  Just wondering because I  used to have soy milk first thing in the morning...turns out I am a nonnie and soy is OUT.  When I changed to the nonnie foods I was supposed to eat, the weight just fell off.
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Geminisue- can you son do veggies juice ???
Sound horible without any veggies... my brothers friend was the same and he started drinking fresh carrot, beet apple juice- liked that and continues doing gree juices at least he gets some of the veggies benefits that way...

About meat I´m 5.5 woman ( 20 pound overweight) rh - ( needs more protein)
and I would NEVER get full on just 2 oz meat/fish.

For lunch I have 2-3 oz and for dinner I have 4-5 oz- depending on my sidedish - if I do a no grain approach I go for the 5 oz soemtimes 6 oz.
Strange enough when I eat fish I always get really full just when I eat it- but 2 hous later I´m starving....


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I get so tired on protein and vegetables and seem to need the lift of a fruit (which is carbohydrate)to get me moving again. Is this just a lifelong bad habit or do you need the carbos sometimes - I must admit I have never tried having some carrot or sweet potato around for this time - All the shop bought juices here contain loads of tomato juice which is a big no for me and I dont have time to get the juicer out at the moment - (dealing with all the pith remains puts me off) doing too much overtime and permantly tired but hopefull will pass soon
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I just discovered an article in August 20th, First  about maximum metabolism with water.  The main points are Hot water triggers body wide detox, lukewarm water suppresses appetite and iced cold water give your body a workout.  They say you could lose about ten pounds a week, so of course I am going to try this as soon as I could make myself a schedule to follow to get the right type of water in the body at the right meal or between meals. If anyone wants more detail I will share.
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sheri, perhaps it is only our fears which makes us gain weight ....just the thought about it...badaboum....a kilo more .....it depends of our ana-meta & other...bolisme....
yessss it is realy not nice that we have to suffer .....this is noooot.....correct...this is NOT fair !!!!!
When I remember that I was that thiny until my 25 or even 30th.years...and now  .....hey very, very unfair ........
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but Isa,  we are WOMEN.. not girls.. and we are healthy!!!!    we are strong!   and we enjoy  eating healthy things...  
wish I knew you.. you sound like a GREAT woman.....
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No, Henrietta, he can't stand the taste of V 8, and he has tried it on several occasions, and then passes them on to me.  I was wondering about the Fusion, but I haven't checked ingredients, on sweeteners and such, does anyone know, maybe I can get him a bottle and see if he will drink it. and how much good stuff is in it?
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Thanks Becky for your advice - your way sounds like me - I am a secretor so can I have soy milk then? I will find it hard to give up the boiled egg and rice cakes for breakfast
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Speedy, if you like boiled eggs and rice cakes, how about having them with your evening meal.  That is the meal to eat grains, if you choose to eat them.  And maybe only one rice cake.



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Speedy,  if you choose to have soy milk, read the ingredient list CAREFULLY.  Most of the brands of soy milk out there have a ton of bad things.  Westsoy Unsweetened Soy Milk is a good one to try.  Silk is a bad choice.  You have to be a label reader!
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Sue,
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I d love to hear all you know about this water temperature plan!
yhanks!


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Surely it is better to have grains early in the day so the body can work them off in exercise - if you eat them at an evening meal they will "sit on your hips" Another comment relating to eggs - if you have them every day surely a three egg portion is way too much - thats 21 eggs a week - think of the cholesterol!
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21 eggs a week - think of the cholesterol!


read this, it might change your concept on eggs!
http://www.dadamo.com/columns/weekly/ask2.pl?20070803.txt

I agree 21 is a bit high, though and also blood type is key.


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Another thing I have read is that fruit should be consumed before midday as this is when the body is cleansing itself and no carbos after midday helps to lose weight too. There are so many thoughts flying around it is so easy to get lost in it all - I guess at the end of the day we are all different and to listen to your own body is the key. But I am very open to all suggestions and ways other people have of living and keeping the weight down. My partner is the opposite he wont have a blood test but as soon as he eats he starts to get very hot and burn all the food away - he lives near a fan permantly in hot weather. I am the total opposite - as soon as I eat I get colder as all the blood goes to the stomach - I sometimes need a hot water bottle on my lap \even in summer - bad circulation and low blood pressure - he has to keep his blood pressure down and has excellant circulation - it is all so interesting - is it also in the genes?
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Surely it is better to have a big breakfast early on so that you can work it off during the morning!
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It also gives you fuel for the day, by eating the protein in the AM your are building up muscle mass that will burn off the calories during the day.
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I so agree with this! I also like a good plate of hot dinner after a hard days work but that is just the protein and piles of green veggies - it is so relaxing to have a full tummy at the end of the day!!
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Yea for me...I had the protien (an egg) this morning and had the strength to omit the carbohydrate, usually manna bread.  I drank my green tea as usual without stevia or soy milk and it was ok, even... not bad at all.  Thanks for teaching me your ways...I appreciate all of you so much.    
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We are all here to help each other - there is such a vast pile of knowledge and experience out there!
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Well - i ate the plums and the mangoes and the cherries - all the O benificial - just trying to wean myself off the apples but oh dear! i felt bloated - the weight came on and the cherries went bad and gave me the runs before i could eat them all! I was fed up and running back to the three apples a day which seem to satify the sweetnessor carbs that  i want sometimes - maybe its the pectin in them my body needs - interesting!
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how much fruit did you have in terms of servings.
cherries will give you that effect if you overdo them.


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3 plums at a time - about three times a day and about 8 cherries at a time 3 times a day - they went musty waiting for me to eat them!!
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speedy,

Instead of rice cakes, eat pureed sweet potato or pumpkin.  Also, start taking L-carnitine, one tablespoon of walnut oil, one teaspoon of flax oil.  Finally, the following supplements would be great:

1) 4YourType's "Basics" pack,
2) Dr. D's antibacterial protocol,
3) his yeast-control protocol.

And, oh yeah, I'd suggest learning the butterfly stroke for swimming.  It's an amazing, full-body lash-out that really lets out all your pent-up aggression.
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Sorry Ron - o non breast stroke is all I could manage right now but your other advice is really useful and I am working on it! Thanks
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speedy, another good thing to try, is the Rebounder... or any mini-trampoline of top quality, which uses thick steel springs instead of elastic straps.
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Don't do too much at one time... baby steps.. when I make too many changes... I fall flat on my face.

Maybe start with eatting carbs last and always with a protein.  This helped me from wanting so much fruit.


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I have a rebounder used to use it a lot - its great for dancing to music really makes you happy - I must admit I haven't been on it lately and it has been shoved in the garage - I am moving soon so will try and make a space!
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you do that!!


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Aren't human's strange? so easy sometimes to give up a good habit and so quick to take on a bad one - hopefully we all keep working at it learning by experience and going off the track sometimes but always returning to the good - for me today it's trying green tea with soya milk in an attempt to ditch the coffee
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good choice!


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I love.... really love the tea for the blood type O's that sell on this site... it's Wonderful!!


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*Eliminated Sodas 6/2003.
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