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speedy
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Hi everyone - has anybody any ideas for keeping weight down on Blood Group O - I have only to eat a banana and the flab appears the morning after - seem to exist on broccoli, meat and fish and a few carrots apples and rice cakes for breakfast - do eat loads of soya marg and olive oil - all suggestions appreciated
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...do eat loads of soya marg and olive oil...


I'm wondering if the soya marg is such a good idea? What are the ingredients? Perhaps, replace that with ghee.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Are you watching your portions? It sounds like you're very careful on the diet so that's the only thing I can think of.

I'm a total newbie to the diet - I restarted it on Wednesday and like you I am an O. I've dropped 6 pounds already with the elimination of grain and dairy and focusing on beneficials. I haven't used any butter or margarine this week at all (not even ghee) - maybe Drea has a point.

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O´s  need fat as well
the ghee suggestion is good.
My 13 yo O eats quite a lot of fat and she seems to have no problem keepinh her weight down... but give her a few slices of bread- even neutral and she gets chubby.

Speedy are you really oveweight ?
your diet seems pretty limited to me- embrace the variety of good food


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Rice cakes are not really a type Os friend, particularly if you are trying to lose weight.

I can tell difference in my waist by the end of a package rice cakes if I eat a couple every day.


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Thanks for clarifying my point, Sam.

Speedy, I didn't mean to imply that you shouldn't have ghee. I just meant that I hadn't had any. I use olive oil for needed fat.

Ellen
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Why don't you give us a true days worth of eating, food eaten, amount of food eaten and put it into meals or snacks, including the times would help too.  Maybe we could put our heads together and help you.  Also Would you share your weight?  If over 250 you may eat man size portions of protein meats, fish, poultry.  I will build up muscle mass which will burn calories faster, thereforth you would lose more weight.
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I second Mikeo, I am finally trying to get 2 good walks in a day with my dog, it may actually be the obvious answer....
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speedy,
you sound much like me!
why not take the secretor test and get the answer to your slow metabolism.
you might just happen to a nonnie for whom grains, dairy and so much more are off limits...
we do get our rewards, though!


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Thanks to you all fvor your really helpful suggestions - I intend working through them to get to the bottam of this - maybe it will help others too with similar situations. Soya marg first - the anyalsis shows
Soy oil 49%
Veg Oils
Salt 0.79%
Emulsifier (mono & Diglycerides of Vegetable fatty acids
Vit e (natural flavouring)
Vit B6
Folic Acid
Vit A Colour (natural Carotene)
Vit D as D2
Vit B12.

It is marketed under the name PURE - I didnt think it was too unhealthy - what do others think?
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Quoted from speedy
Thanks to you all fvor your really helpful suggestions - I intend working through them to get to the bottam of this - maybe it will help others too with similar situations. Soya marg first - the anyalsis shows
Soy oil 49%
Veg Oils
Salt 0.79%
Emulsifier (mono & Diglycerides of Vegetable fatty acids
Vit e (natural flavouring)
Vit B6
Folic Acid
Vit A Colour (natural Carotene)
Vit D as D2
Vit B12.

It is marketed under the name PURE - I didnt think it was too unhealthy - what do others think?


Soy oil is an avoid !!!
And really even for those A´s where it is an neutral -not the best .......
It contains over 50 % of omega 6- and only around 8 % omega 3 which gives it arather unhealthy status !
At the same time it is very processed to make a margarine....

Please tell us a bit about yourself and what you eat during a typically day
and HOW much you exercise... it is far more important for all bt..than most of think....





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I would say don't eat very much at night.  You burn a lot of calories while you sleep, so if you go to bed on an un-full stomach, you'll burn off more at night.

Also, are you drinking coffee?  If so, I'd stop that.  Also, try eating more non-caloric fiber in general:  just dark green leafy vegetables without much if any sauce.  Pumpkin is also good.

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geminisue...huh...what... do you see anything I apologize dearle, it wasn't my intention to hurt anybody ........
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I'm at a healthy/normal weight, but with hypothyroidism, my metabolism is compromised  and it is a constant struggle to maintain my weight.  I want to lose the 5 lbs. that I gained since Jan., but it's not imperative since my weight is normal.  I do however concentrate on not gaining weight.  I've found that staying away from the high sugar foods even if they are beneficial or neutral will keep me from gaining weight. .  . bananas are extremely high in sugar, so I avoid them.  I'm very new to BTD, but I'm trying it for health reasons more than weight reasons.  Try reading about the Atkins diet or a low glycemic index diet to learn which foods may cause unstable blood sugar and avoid those, even if they are on beneficial or neutral list.  Then you can slowly add them once you start losing weight.  Especially stay away from any wheat/gluten/grains -- these are sure to inhibit weight loss, and they will put weight on very fast.  Unstable blood sugar will cause difficulties in losing weight.   Also, exercising is sooooo important, but monitor your heart rate.  If it gets too high then you are burning muscle instead of fat.  I do pilates 3x week + 4 days of some type of aerobic exercise (fast walking, bike riding, etc.) for at least 45 min.  It takes this much exercise for me to not gain weight.  For Type O's wanting to lose weight,  limiting carbs to about 30/day and 90% of them from vegetables will be incredibly helpful.  Then once you start losing, slowly add more complex carbs such as acceptable beans, fruits, etc.  Hope this helps.  Good luck to you.
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What really helped me to lose weight was to always eat protien before I eat any carbs.  The book that really helped me was "The Carbohydrate Addicts Life Span Program", By Dr. Richard F. Heller and Dr. Rachael F. Heller.  They do a good job of explaining insulin releases, your liver, blood sugar levels, and uncontrolable hunger cravings.  They also recommend the BTD on their site.  I was able to lose 75 lbs following their program and have kept it off for 6yrs.  It's not a starvation diet.  It's a life style change of the way you eat.  I feel so good when I follow the program that if ever I'm in a position where I can't follow it and I eat what's available, I can't wait to get back on it the next day.  Not only did I face ridicule for the BTD but also for following this program.  It made my family mad,  because I wouldn't join them in their eating binges like I used to do.  The fight has been worth it, because I feel great,  and God has been my strength the whole way.
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Looks like I need to get rid of the PURE margarine - will switch to olive oil - ghee takes a while too make and I am working extra hours at work all summer - will try and buy some - i think sainsbury's sell it here in England - will set down the daily food as soon as I can - do vitamins make any difference - i seem to take loads at the moment - probably that is why I am content with a fairly stringent diet -love to hear from you all
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Asian food shops usually sell ghee (we get it here in a green tin). It's used a lot in Indian cooking.
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Maybe I am eating too much - a typical day is:
On rising - a few tablespoons of unsweetned pineapple , a mouthful of tuna canned in brine.
About an hour later for breakfast
1 Grapefruit plus a boiled egg plus 3 ricecakes and pure soya marg.
About 10.30 - 11am - 1 apple.
Lunch about 12.30 - large salad with lettuce radishes another apple and red onion with olive oil and lemon dressing topped by a small tin of sardines in olive oil.
About 3pm - an apple and about 4pm another mouthful of tuna.
About 6pm large plate of broccoli courgettes carrots and either fish, chicken or beef - good 6oz serving.
Nothing else until morning.

I do feel I eat a lot but it seems to suit me - could have an unstable blood sugar.

comments appreciated!!
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Maybe I am eating too much - a typical day is:
On rising - a few tablespoons of unsweetned pineapple , a mouthful of tuna canned in brine.
About an hour later for breakfast
1 Grapefruit plus a boiled egg plus 3 ricecakes and pure soya marg.
About 10.30 - 11am - 1 apple.
Lunch about 12.30 - large salad with lettuce radishes another apple and red onion with olive oil and lemon dressing topped by a small tin of sardines in olive oil.
About 3pm - an apple and about 4pm another mouthful of tuna.
About 6pm large plate of broccoli courgettes carrots and either fish, chicken or beef - good 6oz serving.
Nothing else until morning.

I do feel I eat a lot but it seems to suit me - could have an unstable blood sugar.

comments appreciated!!


I'm thinking that you should eat more beneficial fruits, and ditch the two or three apples (neutrals) a day, and the soya marg (see my post above). Are you able to keep to the lower end of the frequency/portions listed in ER4YT? I found it too hard to do so I'm keeping score in SparkPeople.com, just for a while, to get myself back on track.

Exercise: do you do enough of it for an O? That's the other key.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Speedy, the other thing I see is that most of the foods that you do eat are rated as neutrals. It's really important to eat as many beneficials as you can. Try to choose beneficials over neutrals, and avoid avoids.

Maybe some of the O secretors can pipe in on a list of beneficial fruits.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.

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Most O's who are really happy with their eating programs are eating beef or lamb with breakfast.  

And three rice cakes is a lot of carb early in the day.  The margarine is not a healthy addition to your day.  I agree with everyone else on that one.  

And Drea is so right. . . eat more beneficials.  Anytime we are dealing with a health issue or weight problem, we are encouraged to really focus on the Beneficials.



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Cynthia,
very powerful testimonial!
keep doing what you have achieved through hard work and conviction!


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How do people have time to eat meat at breakfast?  My mornings don't really allow for cooking. Can anyone suggest a quick meat to eat for breakfast?
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