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Don
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I'm off to the store to find myself some organic beef and some free range chicken.

Note that organic labeled beef doesn't mean that it is grass fed. Look specifically for grass fed labeling on beef, bison, and lamb.

I have some trouble finding grass fed meat at local stores. The Australian lamb I buy is supposed to be grass fed, but to be honest I am not 100% sure. The ground bison I can get I know is grain finished. One store carries grass fed ground beef, but no other cuts of meat.

Therefore, I usually buy my beef at a farm over an hour away that I found on EatWild.com.


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Back from the store. I found grass fed beef at my Whole Foods so I bought some. There was much selection though - you were all right about that. I also bought a copy of the book (ER4YBT) so now I have that. They were all out of the food cheat sheets for type O, of course. Feeling very common, but that's okay!

Also, holy cow! It took me forever in the store because I was reading labels like mad.

Since I'm leaving on a car trip in the morning, I concentrated on getting foods to eat in the car - plums, bananas, walnuts, dried mango. Hopefully it'll be plenty to keep me going .

More soon,

Ellen
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look for compliant jerky for protein.....
also the nap bars....


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Welcome Ellen.  It's a whole new lifestyle and after a while it will become second nature.  We're a real family here and you'll get all the support you want!
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Well Day 1 is done and behind me. Yay. I think I did pretty well all things considered. I ended up having grass-fed beef and broccoli for dinner. I ate 2 of the rice cakes as well. They are bland without the other stuff in them to spice them up although I do like the crunch factor. I have to confess, I didn't even think about dinner until very late and then when I did I realized I was starving! Strange. Same thing happened at lunch. I was not hungry, not hungry, not hungry, then STARVED! Is this normal?

I have told a number of people I'm doing this and have gotten mixed reviews. Some think it's crazy and total bunk; others are intrigued. I suppose that is normal, eh? My thinking personally is that this does make sense to me - I know I feel better without wheat and dairy. I've done it before and it definitely improved my digestion. And I'm going to give this my all until such time as I have reason to say "this doesn't work for me!" which I'm not expecting to say.

Rough day today. I am looking for work right now and I just found out that I did NOT get the job I wanted. The fact that I made it through the day without wine or chocolate is a miracle. I do have a rotten headache however. I'm hoping a little relaxing music before bedtime will knock it out of me.

Ellen
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congratulations!
don t forget to drink half your weight in oz of water daily!
headaches are sometimes a sign of
dehydration!


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Welcome, Ellen.  I'm not new to the diet' but I'm new to the sight.  I'm so thankful to have people to talk to who understand, and know what I'm talking about.  This diet has truely been an adventure, and since I love to cook and invent my own recipies I never felt deprived when some of my favorite foods were found to be on the avoid list.  My culinary talents have truely been challenged and I love it.

You're on the right track and in the right place.  Go for it!

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Hi Ellen, sorry to hear that you did not get the job, perhaps  you'll get the next one that you apply for, and it will be an even better opportunity! Enjoy your time at the lake house! What lake? I'm from Wisconsin. While you are there, take a nice vigorous hike in the woods and look for wild raspberries. Depending how far north you are, you might even find some wild blueberries, tiny but yummy!!

If you want to loose weight, dumping wheat is the best thing you can do for yourself! I am an A, and when I started this lifestyle, I ate like a secretor, and lost 16 lbs. and went from a size 12 to a size 8. I've maintained that for 4 years, but then I went through menopause, and thickened in the waist and got kind of "jiggly". I still fit in my size 8 pants, but "things" had "shifted" . I treated myself to the secretor test, and WOW! With no effort,  the jigglies are melting away. I do not even miss the wheat, and with 3 O's in my family I am getting more creative at keeping the wheat out of the house!

A good portable beneficial snack for you could be a handful of walnuts with a couple of dried figs. The figs look weird, but are sweet and chewy and taste great with walnuts. I always keep this snack in the console of my truck, so I don't stop for fast food when I am "starving"! Someone suggested jerky as a good snack, and my O's eat a ton of it! Since it is so expensive, my husband makes it out of venison. Enjoy your vacation!

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How true, for life, parenting, horse and dog training!
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Quoted from lola
look for compliant jerky for protein.....
also the nap bars....


Hi Lola,

Can you please recommend a commercial
compliant beef jerky for 0-nonnies if you know
of one?

The only ones I can find all have sugar in them
and out of desperation I bought a package at
our local whole store and it tasted too sweet!

Thank you.

Cordially,
Margaret


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I'm not Lola, but I've got an answer anyway!  

We bought I $40 dehydrator and make our own.  It's so easy.  You need to be very clean and use the freshest possible meat, keeping it refrigerated until you are ready to work with it.  

Our favorite is ground buffalo, mixed with:
onion and garlic granules
powdered ginger
tamari (wheat-free soy sauce)
cayenne
a good quality sea salt, such as Himalayan, or Celtic

Work it all into the meat and quickly spread it very thin on the solid sheets, not the grid.  Rotate the shelves every couple of hours for uniform drying.  When dry, but still flexible, remove and cool on a plate,  Then keep refrigerated for safety.



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I'm not Lola, but I've got an answer anyway!
We bought I $40 dehydrator and make our own.

Hi Victoria,
Thank you for answering and for sharing your home-made
recipe for beef jerky. I have looked into making
my own but that was as far as I could make myself
go. Looking into it. I do have a hydrator and your
recipe sounds easy enough but I am hoping to buy
it already to eat.

Still if that's not possible.......

Cordially,
Margaret



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Ellen,  I have found that eating a small steak for breakfast really helps.  Usually I get some petite sirloin steaks and grill them.  I put them in the fridge and have one a day (ok sometimes I use one for a snack  ) This is really handy and can save time in the mornings as you get ready for that dream job that I know will come your way!  

I also keep walnuts and figs handy for snacks.

Welcome to the BTD!!  


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Cooking up a bunch of salmon patties, or hamburger patties, or ground lamb patties, or turkey patties helps. Also precooking batches or collards, kale, or other leafy greens.
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I d hook up with Modon and have him ship you the best compliant O jerky around!!! lol
he s the master jerky guy!

http://www.americangrassfedbeef.com/grass-fed-beef-jerky.asp
Jerkydirect.com

AmericanGrassFedBeef.com
Organiccarne.com
Mojojerky.com
I do not know if those are 100% compliant, check and see


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Well Day 1 is done and behind me. Yay. I think I did pretty well all things considered. I ended up having grass-fed beef and broccoli for dinner.

Excellent.  Two beneficials, that's the way to do it!  Avoiding avoids is important but ensuring that you get beneficials in you every day is also very important/key.
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I ate 2 of the rice cakes as well. They are bland without the other stuff in them to spice them up although I do like the crunch factor.

Hint:  crumble up your rice cakes and add to them anything you would normally add to popcorn.  They end up being an excellent popcorn substitute!!!
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have to confess, I didn't even think about dinner until very late and then when I did I realized I was starving! Strange. Same thing happened at lunch. I was not hungry, not hungry, not hungry, then STARVED! Is this normal?

Yes, very.  Your body is transitioning/adjusting from running mainly on starchy carbs (like most Americans do) to running mainly on protein.  The thing about protein is, unlike starchy carbs, it is very, very deeply nourishing and satisfying, and lasts a long time, but when it "runs out", it runs out, so you have to be sure to eat a little protein at each meal.  If you have just low-glycemic veggies and not enough protein, you will find you hit a wall at some point.  While it is a better wall than the typical American unsteady blood sugar sitch of "sugar-high-spike-crash-CRAVINGS-for-more-carbs", because it is instead "deep-nourishment-steady-lasts-a-long-time-whoa, where's-the-beef?", nevertheless, you do need to retrain yourself to know when you need to eat protein.  Unlike sugary starches (including ones that don't seem "sugary", such as potato chips, which are higher on the glycemic index than pure table sugar!!!) that leap into your bloodstream and instantly give your blood sugar a spike (later followed by a steep crash), protein takes a little while to be absorbed and utilized, but then it stays with you for quite a while and keeps your blood sugar steady.  However, again, when you need more protein, you need it.  Make sure to allow yourself to have it.  You could order some NAP protein bars (Unibars) for this transitional period so that, if you feel a "protein crash" coming on, you could eat one at any time.

The good news is, the effect won't be as pronounced once you adjust to your new diet fully.  You will naturally get the hang of things and figure out the timing of when you need to eat, etc.  Right now, your body is going through changes and you are noticing the change, specifically, in how your body cycles energy.  It's a good change, but it is still a change, so give yourself plenty of TLC and time to adjust.  The BTD is resetting your biological compass to true north in every way, and part of that is relearning what it feels like to be truly full and satisfied, and the flip side, which is what it feels like to be truly hungry once you get to that point.  You will learn through experience when that point is likely to approach and when you need to eat protein again.
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I have told a number of people I'm doing this and have gotten mixed reviews. Some think it's crazy and total bunk; others are intrigued. I suppose that is normal, eh?

Yup.  You'll find at first that you feel compelled to try to bring the "total bunk" crowd around to your way of thinking, especially as you start feeling better and better, experiencing all the wonderful results of this diet.  But eventually you will realize that the total bunk crowd is determined to continue thinking that the world is flat, and nothing you say or do can convince them that it is, in fact, round.  So, fine, let them be.  *shrug*
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My thinking personally is that this does make sense to me - I know I feel better without wheat and dairy. I've done it before and it definitely improved my digestion.

In the immortal words of Janice Joplin, "You know you got it if it makes you feel good."  ...Of course, she died of a drug overdose, but why split hairs?


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Hi Ellen, This is a great place to be.  Lots of support & lots of great advise.  Good luck as you start on your journey to a healthier you.
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Okay well I restarted the BTD yesterday. Wisconsin was a diet nightmare for so many reasons I can't begin to recount. Not the least of which was that there was basically communal eating and none of it was compliant. I avoided dairy - not easy to do in Wisconsin! And I ate fruits and vegetables. But these people exist on pork and wheat it seems so like I said, I restarted the diet yesterday. I did do very well on my "vigorous" exercise - tennis, hiking, running, swimming, kayaking... very physical trip.

I have to confess I was a bit depressed about BDT in Wisconsin. Food is so social in our culture. The idea of eating something totally different from the crowd really seemed completely impossible from several different perspectives - 1 because I wasn't in charge of the kitchen and 2 because it seemed really LONELY to me (in retrospect - honestly I never seriously considered not eating along with the crowd because of point 1). Anyway, can anyone else relate to this lonely feeling? Or am I just a crazy girl?

Anyway, I am back on track after a good shopping trip. I need to make a concerted effort to eat more veggie-beneficials. Oh, speaking of which.... get this: got a voicemail yesterday from an organic farm nearby. The naturopath is sending me a gift basket from them. I'm really floored by her.

Ellen
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it does get lonely.....but here s where you can come and hang out and rant!! lol


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Well that's just what I'll do then!

I'm doing well on my eating today. I had a steak for breakfast with some mango juice (no sugar added - all natural) and then a big salad for lunch with grilled chicken breast and then some blueberries for a snack. And I'm almost done with the personally-required gallon of water so all in all a good food day. Also got in a good workout today... trainer for an hour and then I also did a mile + on the ellyptical and 1.5 miles on the treadmill. Burned about 750 calories in my 90 minute workout. Not too bad, although I realize we don't exactly count calories here! I haven't decided on dinner yet. I may go to the list and check out different beneficials to consider... I know I'm supposed to eat meat but I tell ya, having had it for 2 meals already today it's starting to feel a little much!

That said, I weighed myself this morning and I was down 3lbs... so I lost the 2.5lbs I gained in Wisconsin plus another 1/2. If I can lose 2 more before I see the ND next Wednesday (which btw is my official weigh day) then I'll be thrilled.

Ellen
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Eat more carbs and less protein at dinner versus your other meals, particularly after all that exercise. Try some of the carb rich vegetables, like sweet potatoes, parsnips, onions, etc.


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Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely do that. Ellen
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great results!


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A friend has just asked me to meet her at Panera Bread for dinner. Of course I have already eaten so I'm just going for company. Talk about jumping into the fire, eh? I am bringing a 32 oz water with me to keep me occupied while she eats. No cookies no cookies no cookies. No worries. I'm not even hungry.

Ellen
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you ll make it fine!!
enjoy the conversation!


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I made it thru 2 tests just fine. Panera Bread - no worries. I just brought my own water jug and I refilled it while I was there as well and we chatted. Since I had already eaten dinner, I didn't feel anti-social or anything. And I told her about my new way of eating and she was very supportive. After that we went to another friend's house... they are notorious food and drink pushers. I said no to the margaritas being offered up over and over again, and no to the coffee. Then they brought out a big box of Fannie Mae chocolates. And I really wasn't hungry so I didn't even feel tempted. But I was glad I had my water to hold onto to keep me from mindlessly eating!

Now of course I am hungry, so I think I'll eat some blueberries before I go to bed. Have a great evening everyone!

Ellen
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