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yesimln
Thursday, July 26, 2007, 4:33am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi. I had my first visit with a naturopath today. My major frustration is that I cannot seem to lose weight, no matter how much I exercise (6-8 hours a week, cardio and weight training) and no matter how "perfectly" I count my calories. There are other frustrations of course, but this is clearly the big issue for me. BTD seems to offer a solution that I'm excited to try.

I've read a lot of things on this site today - so many that I'm a bit bleary eyed (or could that be from the fact that it's 11:30 at night?? who knows?!) Anyway, I'm off to the HFS first thing in the morning to restock the pantry with good food for my O+ plan.

I'm taking Cod Liver Oil (YUK), something called Biogest, and something else called Liver Cleanse per the ND's counsel.

Does anyone have any "must do-must have" advice for a true newbie on the plan? Food or supplements or just general advice? I'd welcome all suggestions.

Thanks, and I look forward to getting to know you as I begin this journey.

Ellen
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welcome!
fish oil supplementation is not advised for Os.
try fresh wild caught fish instead.

blood thinning is not such a good idea in Os who already have thin blood.


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Hi Ellen,

Which of the books do you have? ER or LR?

The first thing I did was to avoid all the avoids, focussed on beneficials and added neutrals as fillers.

Also, follow the recommended portions, it may or may not change as you go along, as all of us are different.

Great lesson I learnt here was to have protein morning and noon (also dinner as well), and beneficial starches for dinner. If your focus is on losing weight, then up your protein, veggies, fruits, nuts and juices. Use starchy veggies like pumpkin, sweet potatoes, carrots etc for your carbs. Keep away from grains atleast for a month.

Supplements I was given to get rid of lectins and build up immunity etc were: polyflora, deflect, taraxacum, fucus plus, ARA6, bromelain, proberry 3.

I was given a very, very general formula to follow: 40% protein, 40% carbs (from veggies & fruits) 20% beneficial fats.

Exercise is crucial and so is relaxation. Water too.

This forum has incredibly supportive members. So dont hesitate to ask questions.

Welcome aboard and best wishes for a new and healthy life style!

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Have beneficials you enjoy eating in your house, car and workplace so you will help yourself make good food decisions!


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Hi Ellen -

Welcome!  You'll have such a great time learning about how your body reacts to foods.   It's really a fun learning experience.  Good luck to you!

PS - In the beginning I was all about substitutions.  Each week I tried to focus on one or two avoids I was eating and find beneficials (or at least neutrals) to replace just those.  It kept me from thinking "I can't eat anything" while still keeping me moving forward.


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Hello Ellen, nice to meet you

I'd say the very best advice to give an O newbie is:

1) Work hard on cutting back on grains in general, and eliminating wheat in particular. This is such a powerful tool for regaining health and losing weight for most Os, it's just amazing. Some people go cold turkey, others cut back gradually. Whatever works for you is great. I would recommend ezekiel bread as a transition food--it's excellent when you want a sandwich or are making lunch for work or school--and rice or spelt pasta is good in place of semolina. As you cut back on grains, replace them with lots of fresh vegetables and fruit. You'll find yourself moving away from bread, pasta etc. and toward fresh live foods. It's a wonderful journey, full of all sorts of discoveries.

2) When in doubt, eat protein. Os cannot go wrong with protein. Hard-boiled eggs and nuts are good sources besides meat. If protein isn't available, eat fresh beneficial vegetables or fruits. If they aren't available, drink water. Obviously if you are hypoglycemic or diabetic you should follow the sugar protocol so you don't end up sick, but where possible, eat right for your type and you'll see results.

3) Understand that you will make mistakes. You're human, it's inevitable. It's also no big deal. In real life you are often faced with less-than-ideal choices. Do the best you can and let the rest go. Be gentle with yourself when you give in to temptation . . . then get up and keep on walking the path of health. You'll get where you want to go eventually, and every experience will teach you something valuable, if you are open to it. Most of us here at the board understand this process very, very well.

4) Find out your secretor status. It's an excellent tool for fine-tuning the food plan, and can help you regain health faster.

Welcome to the board. I look forward to your posts.


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Hi Ellen, enjoy your start on a great journey into the BTD way of life,

as a relative newbie myself, I would also recommend to start gently by eliminating the avoids from your food cupboards as far as possible, and experiment with different ways of cooking/serving the beneficials - if you don't succeed with an ingredient first time, try again, you will probably find a way to love it!  

having said that, though, I wasted loads of time and ingredients on trying to make a bread substitiute when I first started - I ended up with gooey stodge, rock-like items and just plain disgusting-tasting spongy stuff - now I don't even miss bread at all and have found that most other meals I cook can be taken to work in a box and are very palatable at room temperature, thereby removing the need for sandwiches.
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Wow. You guys ROCK! Thank you so much for your feedback. Very helpful.

Lola, I'm a bit concerned about the fish oil advice... frankly it's because my ND gave me the oil because I am Omega-3 deficient. Is this a sign that maybe my ND isn't all that good if she doesn't know it's contraindicated? I have an appointment to see her in 2 weeks.

I've done a cleanse about 2 years that involved me giving up wheat and dairy, among other things. I feel like an idiot right now for putting that stuff back in my cupboard. And I'm sure my friends will enjoy the "food shopping" they'll be able to do courtesy of me. I agree - I have to get the stuff out of my house as soon as possible. I am going away tomorrow (how timely!) and figure that I will likely need to something-less-than-perfect. That said the good news is that I'm not going to be eating in restaurants so much - we're going to a lake house in Wisconsin. Anyway, my plan is to follow Brighid's suggestion... when in doubt eat protein, and get carbs from fruits and vegetables. I'm going to get myself some diet-smart snacks to take with me on the trip.

Thanks again for all the advice and keep sending me those good vibes!

Ellen

PS: Are there any places on the site where people journal?
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BTD diet will provide the correct balance of
omega-3 to omega-6.......follow the portion guidelines accordingly.
there s a blogger section on the homepage, left margin....and the most recent blogs appear right here on top of this page, with the name of the blogger, you just click on that.

there s a general search button that is very handy, to read up on information and other board discussions from the past........
try the word fish oil or thin blood and you will have loads of info......here s the search button, located also on the left margin of the home page
http://www.dadamo.com/search.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivea/config.pl?read=80260
http://www.google.com/custom?q.....itesearch=dadamo.com
to give you an example......
find other sources of omega 3.......like flax or chia seeds, etc....


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Hi Ellen,
and congratulations on discovering the BTD!  In my life, it has been one of the most important things that has ever come my way.  

Like others, I spent a lot of time in the beginning, trying to find ways to substitute things for my accustomed avoids.  I no longer do that because I have come to LOVE the beneficial foods I eat.  The more you eat for your blood type, the easier it gets.  Your food cravings will change dramatically and you will feel better and better as you eat things that your body thrives on.

As you gradually get used to "not touching avoids with a ten foot pole" and selecting beneficial foods, start adhering to Dr. D's portion and frequency recommendations in LR4YT.  And try and emphasize beneficial foods over neutrals.  Many of us loaded up on the neutrals in the early stages of the BTD, and it is very possible to gain weight that way.  Especially overeating the neutral grains can pack on the weight.  An abundance of beneficial protein and vegetables is the best way to health.  With a reasonable amount of beneficial fruits thrown in.  As you can see, I'm gaga over the beneficials!  



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Quoted from yesimln
I'm a bit concerned about the fish oil advice... frankly it's because my ND gave me the oil because I am Omega-3 deficient. Is this a sign that maybe my ND isn't all that good if she doesn't know it's contraindicated? I have an appointment to see her in 2 weeks.


It may just be that your ND is not aware of the BTD; not necessarily that she isn't any good. There are other foods that you can eat that will give you the same benefits of omega-3 such as ground flax seeds and fresh wild salmon. There are probably many others, but as I'm not an O...hopefully, other O's will speak up.


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Try to find and eat grass-fed red meat, beef, bison, and lamb, since it is much higher in omega 3 EFAs.

Walnuts are high in Omega 3 EFAs.

Use 1-2 tbsp. of ground flaxseed a day.

Use flaxseed oil.

The above are all type O beneficials

Look for high omega 3 eggs, preferably organic. Eggs are only a type O neutral, but are still recommended to be eaten every week.

Cod Liver Oil is a type O secretor neutral, so you can continue with it, but long term you might be better off trying to get your Omega 3 EFAs from other sources. You can also find vegetarian DHA that is made from algae, but it is hard to find one that does not have type O avoids in it.


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A very warm welcome to you, Ellen!

I'm so happy for you because I truly feel you are in the right place now.  The BTD has helped me tremendously in so many unexpected ways.  Weight continues to be a struggle for me and right now I am not doing well in that regard, but I can tell you that when I am really working the BTD program the way I should be (high compliance, virtually no grains--I'm a non-secretor, regular exercise), the weight does indeed come off.  I think for me, it will always be a challenge, though.  We all have one or several aspects of health that are particularly challenging for us.  The great thing about the BTD is that it is holistic, it impacts every system of the body and helps normalize and balance your entire being.

I went on it for weight loss but have stayed on it for so many, many, MANY more reasons, too numerous to even list.  A few just off the top of my head are, eliminating cravings, feeling nourished and satisfied, feeling steady and in balance, balancing blood sugar, balancing brain chemistry, keeping menstrual periods regular, deep cellular healing/repair, healthy digestive system, systemic anti-inflamation such as rosea not progressing, etc., etc., etc.

I've also found a real home here in the wonderful cybercommunity of BTDers.  Like any family, sometimes we have our moments, but in the end we are there for each other and you will not find a warmer, more intelligent, informed, interesting, open-minded, knowledge-thirsty, sillier, more caring group of people anywhere.

So, kick off your shoes and stay a while.  I think you will love it here.

Newbie Suggestions:

1.  Always read ingredient labels on anything you buy to scan for avoids.  The big Type O avoids are wheat and corn, which go by many names!  For example, if you see "fructose", that translates to corn syrup, which you wouldn't necessarily think, as literally "fructose" means "fruit sugar"...so why they can even legally call corn syrup "fructose" is beyond me, but I digress!!!  Read those labels and you will do fine, once you get over your shock, horror and amazement at how the food industry tries to stick wheat and, particularly, CORN, into everything since they are the two most abundant and cheapest crops in America.

2.  Three big avoids to cut out asap are wheat, corn and coffee...and some would say dairy is right up there, too.  If you get too overwhelmed with everything, just try to do the best you can with everything and only be strict about those biggies until you really get the hang of things.  However, the more compliant you can manage to be, the better for your health.  Compliance level is a very personal thing and no one can make that decision for you.  Your compliance level may vary from day to day, too, over the long haul.  This is not a fad diet that most of us stick to for just six weeks and then we go "off" it.  This is a lifetime thing and thus must be sustainable.  Each of us has to experiment and figure out how strict or lenient we need to be and can be in order to sustain this thaaang over the long haul.  But I don't mean to make the BTD sound like a grim chore.  On the contrary, this diet is a JOY!  When I was new, I used to exclaim that every day was like Thanksgiving on the BTD!  You get to eat nourishing, delicious, wonderful food and feel satisfied and like a million bucks!

3.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask here on the board.

4.  Again, WELCOME!


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Neuromins DHA supplement in place of fish oils.  It comes under many brands, it's
made from micro algae instead of fish and works well for Os.
vegetarian DHA capsules
http://www.doctorstrust.com/it.....6qqokCFSQwSgodb3xAOg


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Lola, I'm a bit concerned about the fish oil advice... frankly it's because my ND gave me the oil because I am Omega-3 deficient. Is this a sign that maybe my ND isn't all that good if she doesn't know it's contraindicated? I have an appointment to see her in 2 weeks.

Ellen, I would do what the ND told you.  I think the ND sounds great because she is the one who advised you to start the BTD.  That speaks volumes to me about this ND.  While Lola is right that, in general, fish oil supplementation is not advised for O's, each individual is different (in fact, that is what this approach to diet is all about), and if you are deficient in omega 3 (which is SO important!) and your ND says take fish oil, please continue to do so and do NOT worry about it.  Fish oil is very, very, VERY good for everyone.  It is only contraindicated as a supplement (not as found in servings of whole fish, but just in the amount/concentration found in supplements) for most O's because our blood is already thin and fish oil thins the blood.  However, you sound like you might be a non-secretor since you have a rough time losing weight even when you exercise.  Nonnies have thick blood, so being an O non sort of makes your blood average out to a normal viscosity *lol*!  Seriously, I would NOT worry about continuing with the fish oil supps in your case.  It is soooooooo good for you and it is not an avoid for any reason other than the blood thinning effect, which varies from individual to individual--for most Type A's, who have thick blood, it is a very, very GOOD effect.  Most O's are better off not overdoing it with fish oil but again, in your case, since you are deficient in Omega-3 and your doctor, who examined and evaluated you as an individual, prescribed it, I say please continue taking it.  You could certainly discuss your concerns with her, and say, "Hey, you suggested I go on the BTD and you also prescribed fish oil, yet the BTD says that O's, in general, should avoid fish oil supps.  What up, doc?"  I'm sure she will set your mind at ease.  I think it is fine in your case, truly.  But doublecheck with your doc.  In the meantime, continue taking the fish oil.  Just my opinion and I'm not a doctor, but that is what I would do.


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ELLEN, welcome !!  I'm back on track after a big slip.  This is day 4 and I'm down 5 pounds already !!  gotta love it.

I went on BTD due to health issues following colon cancer resection surgery.  What the dr's said would be a life long condition is GONE !!  Gone in 6 months or less !!  Of course they won't admit it has anything to do with my diet.

Grains are a killer in the weight loss dept.
 


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great results Colleen!


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PT - did you get yourself a SMART car???  I looked into them 2 years ago but too small for Mom's walker, etc.

They aren't officially for sale here in the US yet, although you can buy them on the "gray market" (imported new or used and converted to meet US standards) through various unofficial sources.  New smartfortwos built for the American market will be sold via official channels (via Penske, some at stand-alone dealerships, some in their own section of existing Mercedes-Benz dealerships) sometime in 2008.

If my '99 Saturn holds out, I won't buy a smart or anything yet.  My m.o. is to drive my cars into the ground.  However...I SAY that, but I've never wanted a car like I want a smart *lol*!!!!!!!!!  If I allow myself to go look at one, let alone test drive one, that could be it.  Next thing you know, I could be driving out of there in a little smartfortwo, yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

But hopefully my '99 Saturn SL2 holds out until '09, making it a solid 10 years old.  Cars should last at least 10 years, me thinks.  Especially with the low mileage I have on that baby.

edited to add:  Ellen!  I didn't mean to hijack your thread.  It's all Colleen's fault, she asked me the question!  I apologize for both of us *lol*, and now back to your newbie welcoming thread, yay!!!!!!!

edited to add:  Colleen, Lola is right:  those are GREAT results.  Does the BTD rock or WHAT?  (Answer key:  It ain't "or WHAT", so what does that tell ya?)  Also, my mom has a walker, too, so the smart is not a practical choice for me...still, ooooh, how I WANT one!



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Hey yesimln...welcome to the forum and the BTD way of life.   Congrats on your ND getting you on the right track.  I would suggest you get your secretor test done so that you would know if Cod Liver Oil is an avoid for you.  When I first started the diet I had tried fish oil supplements, but did not do very well on them.  Once I got my secretor test done I knew why.  Eating fish and the above mentioned foods that have Omega 3 in them is more beneficial.  Great that you are going to get rid of the avoids in your house...nothing worse than an hungry O and there are quick no-no's in the house.  Been there...done that.   Don't forget to read your labels everytime you buy something.  Things change and food companies do put avoids in products that we think are compliable.  Glad to have you here and keep us posted.  Have a great weekend.

Colleen...wonderful that you could beat the life long recovery condition in six months.    So sad that the doctors have their heads in the sand.   (((((Big Hugs to you )))))

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Okay I know this is too soon but I love you guys. Thank you so much for all of this. I'm THRILLED.
I'm off to the store to find myself some organic beef and some free range chicken. And more blueberries, which are among the most fabulous things nature invented in my book and on my "go for it!" list. For breakfast I ate eggs with veggies and a bowl of blueberries. I'm stuffed and that was 2 1/2 hours ago. A lot of times I feel full and yet hungry at the same time.  A sign that I'm not digesting well based on what I'm reading here. I'm incredibly hopeful that the new life-long eating plan will put an end to that!

Based on what you're saying, I think I need to do this secretor test sooner than later. But I'm going to continue the plan that the ND put forth until I see her in 2 weeks.

Colleen, I'm so glad that your cancer situation is in check! That's huge news. And frankly it's much better news than me ever losing 5 pounds would be!

PT, thank you so much for your thoughts. I read about the COL being neutral for O's and I thought well I should just do what she says for 2 weeks. Even if long term I need to change this out for flaxseed (good advice e1!) I think my body will begin to respond well now that I'm ditching dairy, wheat, and yes corn. I know what you mean about the labels - honestly I think what it means is that 99% of the time I need to make my own food with natural ingredients. That sounds time consuming, but I'll figure it out over time.

You all seriously rock. I feel so supported. Thank you Thank You THANK YOU!!

Ellen
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P.S.  Last hijacky point:  Colleen, there is 12 cubic feet of storage space behind the front seats, fyi:

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Okay, back to Ellen and her exciting journey into the BTD mystic!!!!!!!!!!  Ellen, you are in for the ride of your life, a wonderful, magical mystery tour like none other!  And we'll be here with you every step of the way (but don't let that scare ya off *lol*)!


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Gatherer; iNfj; BTD/GTD aficionado; lost 97 lbs
Kyosha Nim
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Okay I know this is too soon but I love you guys.

We are pretty fabulous, I must concur!  
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Thank you so much for all of this. I'm THRILLED.

You are very welcome.  I know I love to welcome excited newbies such as yourself (and, for that matter, also the newbies who come here at the end of their ropes and feeling awful with something that they've been to doctor after doctor to try to contend with, to no avail, and they are just going to try one more thing, but they really don't think it will work...it is so exciting to me to know that it probably will for so many different health challenges and to know that we will see the person coming back and posting a series of ever-increasingly amazed and thrilled posts--I LOVE that!!!).  You seem to have a very good head on your shoulders and I know you will do very well with the BTD--so I am happy for you!  I think all of us who have been on this journey for a while get excited for newbies because we remember how amazing it was for us as newbies when so many wonderful things started happening, healthwise.  Unexpected things, so often, which makes it all the more amazing.  But anyway, I'm gushing (I tend to get that way about the BTD--bear with me!).
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Based on what you're saying, I think I need to do this secretor test sooner than later. But I'm going to continue the plan that the ND put forth until I see her in 2 weeks.

Great plan.  I think this ND sounds like a true find and just stick to what she has told you for the two weeks and then, if you have questions about the fish oil supplementation or anything else, make a list of them and bring it with you to ask her.  From what I hear/gather, NDs are one rare type of doctor who actually welcome questions and a collaborative relationship with their patients, so go for it, girl!


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Kyosha Nim
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Location: Florida
Age: 53
P.S.  Oh, and YES, do get the secretor test when you can.  No huge rush, but it is very valuable info to have, especially in the weight loss department!  The non-secretor refinements can make all the difference in that regard.  That said, I lost a lot of weight on the regular old "ER4YT" (written before any secretor/non-secretor distinctions were set forth in the diet's food lists), so you should see progress, weight-wise, especially at first, with just eating right for your ABO type.  Especially for O's, just cutting out wheat (and corn, but wheat is our nemesis) alone should be a key that alerts your system that it is okay to start dropping pounds.

Good luck!


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Hi Ellen,

Nice to have you on board.
I, like other BTDers, have found the complete abandament
of grains to be a blessing with one exception and that
too is slowly diminishing.

Manna Bread. (it is a Beneficial for type 0s)
All Rye Manna Bread. It's usually
in the freezer section of the Health Food stores.
Toasted under the broiler with some ghee and
complient Agave nector is now a twice a week
or less treat.

I still have a sweet tooth.
Cocoa powder and boiling water with a dash of Celtic
Salt, some ghee and agave nector satisfies that
craving too.

Sandwichs with Romain lettuce instead of bread
and homemade mayo is now preferred. You grow
into the BTD.

Knowing your secreter status would further refine
your food choices and that's a good thing.

God bless.

Cordially,
Margaret


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