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it will be interesting to see where this fruit lands in GTD      thanks for the link Alek  



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Wow, that scares me!  I drink a ton of grapefruit juice.
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That was my feeling, Jane, I make my smoothies with pink grapefruit.




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Whoa.  Didn't see that one coming.

It will be a shame if that research is confirmed with further study, as there are so many great benefits of grapefruit, some of them quite unique to this fruit.

Bummer, man.


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My recommendation is just don't consume grapefruit daily. Give your body time to clear the grapefruit molecule cytochrome P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) out of your body and for the body to bring your oestrogen level down to it natural/normal level.

I think that is wise because cytochrome P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) can impact the detoxification of other things as well.


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I agree with Don, just don't panic, everything in moderation.  I'm glad that you shared the article.  Keeping abreast of new findings is a very good thing.  
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My recommendation is just don't consume grapefruit daily.


I have always heard that rotation of all foods daily is important.......perhaps this is a good example of why.  




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Can't help panicking - I've been eating a whole grapefruit for breakfast every day for years
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That's interesting. Someone remind me what actually happens when you metabolize estrogen, aside from that clearing it out of your system... what does the act of metabolizing it actually do for you?
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Frances AB, wishing you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums!!
Don't freak out, just cut it from your diet for a while. GTD will be out in hopefully 4 or 5 mths (dare we hope?  ) and see where it falls for your blood type at that time. In the mean time if you can find a good naturopath doctor (NP) to try and balance your hormones, that would be a big help. That will prob require some saliva testing, which is  usually not covered by insurance (but won't hurt to check), but would surely be worth the money spent if it eases your mind.   A good NP can help you a great deal. Keep the faith ..........be calm  



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This is a reminder why eating things in season is a good idea, although in this country so many things are available all year round, & we don't think that much about 'in season' .
It reminds me of my poor dad who just loved oranges & insisted on having them all the time.  Now we are finding how bad they are for Os & cancer.  He did succumb from bladder cancer last year after successfully having heart surgery & managing heart 'issues' for many years. He also didn't like going out in the sun & now we are  finding out how important Vitain D is for preventing certain cancers.
I somehow think that if he ate his beloved oranges only in season & got a few more minutes of sun daily, he might still be with us! He ate a very good diet including lots of leafy greens, baked fish most days per week, fresh fruit, whole grains, etc.
Thank God he made it to 90!
But, I still wonder....
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PS So I will continue to eat grapefruit in moderation--I guess that's what I meant to say before going on this tangent!


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I thought grapefruit was a no no for O's.  Guess I better double check.

Mrs T, my mother and my uncle both suffered from bladder cancer. I am curious to know if your father was a smoker?  My GI doctors says thats the trigger.  Personally I have little faith in him, but he is a neccessary evil until the colonoscopy results come back.  Also, was he an O?  The avoidance of sun is also an interesting commonality my mother shares.

Thankfully my mother is cancer free.  She also suffers from heart conditions.  Almost lost her about 8 years ago, they "installed" a pace maker and she is doing fine.
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Thank you to Lola for the welcome and information, thank you too to italybound for the reassurance. I'm over the panic today, just taking stock and planning to revise my habit of eating pretty similar things too regularly maybe. But grapefruit is my favourite fruit and I'm not a breakfast person so it's just such a nice juicy way to start the day until I can manage a few solids later on. And it's beneficial for ABs. By the way, I really like this board.
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Hey Becky...grapefruit is a neutral for O's.  You have probably already checked, but wanted to add something before I hijacked this thread.  It concerns your mom and her pace maker.  Glad to hear that she is doing fine with it.  My mom had one also.  IF your mom ever gets an electric shock of some kind please bring her in to the specialist right away to have it checked.  My mom had a shock because of the fridge and stove in her apartment as they were not grounded and the landlady refused to fix it.  After her shock she started not feeling well and when she phoned to ask the specialist about it he didn't think that that was the cause for her not feeling well.  Now...this is speculation on our part and a few experienced electricians, but we attribute this to her getting sicker everyday.  She passed away not long after getting the electrical jolt.   We should've taken her down right away to be accessed, but her appointment was only two weeks away and we figured she would be looked at then.  I am not trying to scare you, but hopefully someone will learn from our mistake.  Obviously she had a heart problem to begin with and her doctor never requested an autopsy because of this.  We didn't push to have the pacemaker looked at either.  You tend to forget things when you are grieving and we couldn't do it afterwards because she was cremated.  Hope this helps anyone else out there too.  Thanks for letting me hijack this Alek.

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Italybound, I forgot to ask this before and please excuse my ignorance - what is the GTD to which you're referring? Thanks for the comforting advice.
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Frances...italybound is referring to the new book Dr. D. is working on that will be coming out called the Genotype Diet.

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GTD = The Genotype Diet, which is the book that Dr. D is currently working on. It is scheduled to be released in Dec. 2007.


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Quoted from ironwood55
GTD = The Genotype Diet, which is the book that Dr. D is currently working on. It is scheduled to be released in Dec. 2007.


Whoa...wouldn't that be a great Christmas present for the BTD family. (No pressure though).  Take slow...make nice.

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By the way, I really like this board.


  I really like this board also..........have read some things on a few other boards and heard some horror stories about some others..........those things dont happen here.  The motto is:   treat everyone else like you would like to be treated.  I think we do pretty well.  

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GTD = The Genotype Diet, which is the book that Dr. D is currently working on. It is scheduled to be released in Dec. 2007.


OMG I'm so happy!!! I thought it wasnt scheduled until 2008!  I'll take it a month (or more) earlier......no problem!!  



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..Previous studies have shown that a molecule called cytochrome P450 3A4 (CYP3A4) is involved in metabolising oestrogen hormones...


As grapefruit is an inhibitor of the process combining with foods that "induce" the process {St. Johns Wort} may help. ALso, it is specifically the Juice that is the inhibitor; so eating more of the "White part" {Pith, Bioflavonoid} may also negate the effect somewhat.

I am sure there are other foods that will do this {Starfruit is mentioned} - and probably more so than Grapefruit...Just because this is the first one they studied doesn't mean its the only one...

Curiously the 'Grapefruit' in TYPEbase {Citrus paradisi} is a different specie from that in LECster {C. medica}. I don't believe either is correct - As I remember Grapefruit being a cross{hybrid} not a natural specie {C. maxima X C. sinensis}.


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Thanks for all of that, I'll look forward to the book!
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ooo...aaah it is to be seen in Amazone.com in Teutonia...will go for a reservation as quick as possible ))

btw...happy that it is written....the little word *may*........ I just love grapefruits, one of my favest fruits..... when I tested it with my Vegatester it was a suppaa beneficial wavies to all grapefruit lovers ....
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didn't see that one coming at all. I eat grapefruit every morning, well I guess not anymore until they finish these studies ! Blows  me away!


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I see a kinesiologist regularly and spoke to him yesterday re grapefruit. His reply was quite technical and I'm not sure that I can express it properly but to sum up his thoughts - there is something in grapefruit that might be part of the problem for a small minority of women and they probably have other things going on anyway ie eating grapefruit per se isn't enough to cause breast cancer. He also suggested that I stop eating them for my own peace of mind because worrying about what you're eating isn't very healthy. By the way, he is a brilliant kinesiologist and I trust his judgement... So I'm stopping for a while and will probably go back to eating them occasionally - I absolutely love pink grapefruit and can't give them up forever. Since starting the BTD just over 5 years ago I've been having one almost every day (they're beneficial for AB) and I feel fine. Maybe if you're doing the BTD they're not a problem? (wistfully)
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