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raymond1905
Monday, July 9, 2007, 12:16am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi All,

I'm new to the BTD (started on Thursday) and I want to lose 35 pounds.  I've lost 30 with Weight Watchers but continued to feel bloated and nauseous all the time.  Plus, I retain a lot of water, have very dry skin, and a low thyroid (which I'm on medication for).  I have gained more energy since being on my thyroid meds but the other "symptoms" have never subsided.  Additionally, my DH and are trying to have a baby...its been 12 months and no luck.

So, my question is this:  Are there guidelines that I should follow in order to lose weight (# of carbs, amount of food, times for certain foods, etc.).  Anybody who has any ideas or who has had success or failures please share.

Thanks,
Rachel
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your body needs all the minerals and vitamins from fruits and veggies!!

follow the guidelines according to the book so you can be healthy, and be able to get pregnant.

the pounds will melt off as soon as your body knows you are not starving it of essential nutrients!!

frequency guidelines and servings are also given, so you do not over eat any of the given categories.
veggies are unlimited by the way, does that ring a bell?

so many of us have been through Atkins, also, and have been very frustrated.
I know I d never go back, no matter what.

we need the protein, the fat, as well as the right carbs and the minerals from veggies.
it all belongs together


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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raymond1905
Monday, July 9, 2007, 1:12am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Thanks Lola

I've got to go through the books and make me a chart or something to keep track of what the portions are for the week/day.  I should make a check-off chart so I know not to go overboard in case I forget what I've eaten.  I'm not good about writing down everything I eat, but checking off a box is easy enough.

If it will help others I can post it and people can use it...

Rachel
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Henriette Bsec
Monday, July 9, 2007, 6:39am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Rachel
I have lost more than 40 pounds - but still need the last 20...
I guess I am a bit lazy since I have talked about doing this the last 2 years- but life has just been too stressfull...

What works for me is :
No sugar, wine, white flour, white rice, pasta during weekdays.
Small ammounts in the weekend- that way I donīt feel deprived.

Focuse on:
whole fat dairy, eggs, good protein ( if you donīt like your beneficial meat some of us donīt...- focus on the neutral), lots of veggies, moderate ammount of fruit and nuts.

It is a great idea  the check of chart - I have one in danish
I donīt use it all the time - but sometimes when I wanīt to know if I have gone astray

A typically day would be like this:

BF: 1 slice whole grain spelt bread, 2 softboiled small eggs, 1 piece of fruit- maybe green tea.( sometimes I would leave the bread out.- sometimes I would have yoghurt instead.- but high protein is best in the morning

snack: 1 small handfull almonds or walnuts- maybe coffee with milk

lunch: salad with 3 oz salmon,lettuce, cucumbers and dill/sourcream dressing water

afternoon: maybe 1 cup cottagecheese and a few strawberries- could youghurt- green tea.

dinner: broccoli or other cabbage , roasted sweet potato or carrots- some meat aprox 4 oz could be beef, lamb or turkey. Ghee or butter on top.
maybe a piece of fruit before be if hungry.

By eating like this I lost aprox 2-3 pounds pr week and I havnīt put weight on allthough I have been stressed sitting down in front of the computer the last months drinking coffee and eating speltcookies

If you want to get pregnant I find it even more important that you make sure to have eggs, good protein, wholefat dairy and veggies every day !
Your body wll need theese nutricons to stbilize.

Exercise....
could you get more active?
I have started to walk 1 hour every day - works really well- I get happier and gets exercise.
I try to do yoga 3 x a week- but Iīm so busy in the garden right now that I sometimes forget.






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raymond1905
Monday, July 9, 2007, 8:57pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Henriette

Thanks for your ideas...You mentioned that i should focus on Whole Fat Dairy products.  I'm confused at this because my whole life I've been told to stay away from Full Fat Dairy products.  That will take some getting used to.  

I'm not a big snacker...If I snack it is in the late evening and I'm sure it's 'cause I'm not as busy as during the day.

Do beans (kidney/navy) or dairy count as protein?  I can imagine this is where I will have the hardest time.  Don't get me wrong, I love good meats...but it will be hard to eat them 3 times a day.

Thanks again,
Rachel
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your physiology has the necessary IAP to digest protein, in comparison to blood type A or AB.
plant protein combos are best for As and ABs but not the best source of protein for a B.
let your body be the one guiding you as you work your way through this lifestyle.


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Henriette Bsec
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Hi Rachel.
Well the low fat or no fat approach is a 1 size fits all -type of approach.
I think it is in some sense true for A and AB... but us Bīs have no problems with dairy fat- and really the quality of dairy you get is better in the whole fat version. We have talked a lot about dairy on this board- and I think that most Bīs do best on the ful fat versions : It does not reck your bloodsugar, you get more vitamins( natural) and it contains less additives- but go for organic high quality produce  I think Kristin recommended this dairy:
http://www.strausfamilycreamery.com/

As a child and a teen we only had whole fat dairy- I was slim and did fine with moderate ammounts of dairy.
When I turned 20 or so I thought I should go for the low fat or no fat versions and what happend I started to abuse dairy. 2 -3 pints of 0,5 % fat was not unusual + youghurt and rubber cheese( low fat cheese ) Imagine all the extral calories I got this way ......
Today Iīm back on full fat dairy and my feelings toward dary are normal again and I did not put weight on or reck my cholesterolnumbers

A lot of us Bīs feel guilty about eating late at night but it is ok as long as it is Ok food
- but eating smaller meals during day is best for Bīs we donīt do well on few and large meals like the Oīs.
I The summer I donīt snack in the evening- but in the winter I sometimes have aglass of milk or a riceczke with cheese or some fruit before going to bed I sleep better that way.

Protein :

Well being a B - You can either be a B that does well on less meat/fish or a B than is more O like. The difference between 2 and 7 servings of meat pr week is rather big ( + 3-5 servings of fish )
Sure you can substitute some of your meat and fish with beans or cheese- but donīt get too many
You donīt have to eat meat 3 x day- but at least meat or fish 1 X a day - However if you donīt get enough protein youīll get more hungry and start craving grains, sugars etc...
The same happends if you donīt get enough good B fat..
The key for Bīs to loose weight is : not to stress,sleep enough, get moderate exercise, eat protein, lots ogf greens - eat small or no grains/sugar and stay away from all avoids.



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Don
Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 7:10pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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If you are wanting to get pregnant I recommend that you read the Eat Right 4 Your Baby book.

Making sure you are healthy before you get pregnant is one of the best things you can ever do for your future child.

In preparation for pregnancy make sure you are supplementing with appropriate nutrients and also try to use as many organic products as your budget and availability allows.


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raymond1905
Thursday, July 12, 2007, 2:42am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Thanks Ladies

I already buy organic, free-range, hormone free, humane meats and dairy.  Also, as many organic produce as I can.  I will go for full fat dairy and see what happens.  I have cut back on my grains...my main problem is getting in the greens...I don't know how to cook them!  Another issue is getting my DH to eat what I eat (well, he's an O and I realize there are loads of things I can eat that he cannot...but he isn't doing the diet, yet) or at least a variation of my meal so that I'm not making several meals.  Any suggestions?

Rachel
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raymond1905
Thursday, July 12, 2007, 2:45am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I am unable to get Strauss Dairy Products in my area...anybody in the Denver, CO area have a good dairy idea?
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Quoted from raymond1905

Another issue is getting my DH to eat what I eat (well, he's an O and I realize there are loads of things I can eat that he cannot...but he isn't doing the diet, yet) or at least a variation of my meal so that I'm not making several meals.  Any suggestions?
Rachel


You are welcome

About O and Bīs eating togther - I find it fairly easy
- especially if a O doesnīt follow O diet tooo carefull.

You can share so much foods:

This is my list for my O and I
- Note we are both secretors- so a few things could be different if your are a non secretor-
the list is not complete- a few things none of us enjoy....

You both need fish and meat- let him have the chicken- share the rest of meat- avoid pork products.

Fish :
Bennies for both of you are: Cod, halibut, sole
while Salmon, monkfish, haddock,hake is beneficial for you and neutral for him.

Dairy
Well Ghee , butter,egg, feta, mozzarella,and  goatcheese is safe for both
Keep the yoghurt, cottagecheese, ricotta, kefir and whole milk for yourself

Beans:
a bit difficult but lima, fava and green beans are safe for both- keep the kidney beans for yourself.

Nuts -
Share walnuts, almonds, macadamia, pecan and flax.
Buy some pumkinseeds for him only

Grains:
Share Millet, oats, spelt, quinoa and rice.
Maybe rye for him- but he really doesnīt need it !

Oils- Olive oil is great for both of you-
I keep walnut, macadamia nut oil and almond oil as well
- maybe grapeseed oil- but it is really untested.

Greens:
Brocolli, kale,beet greens, parsnips, red pepper, sweet potato, ginger is beneficial for both.
Beneficial (0) and neutral for (B) is :
seaweed, onion, spinach, romaine
Benefical B and neutral O;
Beets, brussel spouts, cabbage, carrots, egg plant,

Neutral  for both: asparagus, celleriac/cellery, fennel, lettuce, peas, squash( summer and winter)
water chestnut, etc

Fruits:
Share; banana, plums, pineapple
Beneficial for 1 and neutral for other is:
blueberry, cherries, figs, mango, prunes, cranberries, watermelon, grapes,

Neutral fruits for both:
apple, apricot, dates, currtas, grapefruit, lemon, nectarine/peach, pear, raisins strawberries, raspberries,

Share red wine, green tea-

Keep the coffee, tea white wine and beer for youself.

You can handle more grains than he- he needs to focus on proteina nd fruita nd veggies.

We some times share breakfast if it is egg based.

lunch is separate meals- sometimes something that is good for us both
- like lettuce with cold meat and fish.
Sometimes I have kidney beans, pasta or yoghurt based things- or a B sandwich

Dinners is always shared.
Sometimes it is more beneficial for me- other times it is a O feast









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goat dairy, as henriette mentioned is good for you and ok for him.....cheeses, that is....
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raymond1905
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thanks All,

I'm gonna print out this information for easy reference.
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