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Emster
Thursday, July 5, 2007, 5:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi, there.  I have had hives for six days.  At first I thought it was bug bites, but I have found out it's hives.  I can't figure out what is causing it but I highly suspect it's my diet.  I am eating most of what I should be, sometimes I'll stray, but only sometimes.  My usual diet consists of plain yogurt with 2 tablespoons of oat bran sweetened with Stevia and a dash of cherry concentrate.  I have peanuts for snacks.  For fiber, I use psyllium caps from Walmart (4-5 times per day).  2 cups of coffee, rarely use 1/2 & 1/2.  Lots of water.  Plain yogurt with 2 tablespoons oat bran for lunch.  Afternoon snack is a couple of squares of dark chocolate.  Large glass of pink grapefruit juice some time during the day (recently with dinner).  For dinner I have Pasta Accents (which consists of pasta spirals, carrots, brocolli and corn) to which I add a splash of olive oil, garlic powder and sea salt.  I have a glass of pinot grigio after dinner a few days a week.  Then a Quaker Oats Peanut Butter Snack Bar right before bedtime with another smaller glass of pink grapefruit juice.  I don't stray too far from this diet.

The only thing different I can think that I added to my routine was a vitamin D tablet because I read it is good for good colon health and I have had a problem with constipation for years.  I got a new bottle of Stevia from Whole Foods.  The brand name is Wisdom Naturals.  Maybe it was a bad batch.  I thought oats were okay for As.  I didn't take the Vit. D tablet today so, it's not the Vit. D tab unless this takes a few days to run its course.  I didn't take my psyllium caps with dinner last night or this morning with breakfast and I am still realllllly uncomfortable and they (the hives) don't seem to be getting any better.  I guess next I'll try to eliminate oats.

Have any As had this problem?  If so, based on my diet, can you see anything that's causing this?

I hope to find an answer soon.  This is driving me crazy.  Thank you!


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Not really hive related reply but you don't seem to eat a lot of fruit and veg - it is mainly grains.  Upping your veg might well help with constipation for instance...just a thought!
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Emster
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About this time last year I ate salads for lunch and dinner and fruit smoothies for breakfast and I still was constipated.  The only thing that changed that was the psyllium.  I hope my problem is not the psyllium.  I don't know what I'd do without it as all the fruit and roughage in the world doesn't seem to help me.  I had an abdominal CT performed last September and it revealed nothing but a calcified appendix, so it would appear that my abdomin is "healthy."


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I get hives from a number of food products.

Less than I used to. But there was a period I was sensitive to
it.

I would look for common allergens first.

I noticed wheat, dairy, peanuts in your diet. these are all common allergens
you may wan to try eliminating these.

Peanuts are no problem for me, but are for many.

Wheat gives me headache in small quantities
(say I am served fried food and I consume
some of the coating even though I try to
remove it). If I ate wheat Pasta it would probably
give me hives.

Dairy would give me headaches in small amounts.
Although I can usually get away with yogurt and mozzarella.
I think if I drank a glass of milk I would
have hives in 4-6 hours and they would last for 60 hours.
This is a guess I am not going to try it to find out.

===

You did not mention these but these can give me hives:


vinegar (it is in lots of things)
Beef takes a larger amount (have to actually eat)
Pork in small amount (Bacon used to flavor beans ...)
Corn products (and corn syrup is in everything).

===

In regards to the Vitamin D capsule,
it could contain an allergen and for
me it would take several days
for my body to clear the toxin and the hives
go away. Although they would start to diminish
after a day or two.


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My reaction to
Food products you mention
(Note that I am a nonsecreator)

>psyllium caps from Walmart (4-5 times per day).

Psyllium give me no problems and is considered okay for As.

>2 cups of coffee, rarely use 1/2 & 1/2.  

Never used either product. half and half is an avoid for an A

>oat bran for lunch.  

Do not use

>Afternoon snack is a couple of squares of dark chocolate.

I do not eat chocolate. You should check the ingredients of the
dark chocolate


> Large glass of pink grapefruit juice

I do not drink this, but I have eaten pink grapefruit
without problems.

>pasta spirals

If it's wheat for me it is bad. Nonsecreators are supposed to be able to tolerate.

>carrots, brocolli

Great for me never a problem with hives.

>corn

Major problem for me

>olive oil

No problem if it is fresh

>garlic powder

No problem if it is just garlic powder.

>sea salt

No problem if it is not part of a seasoning salt mixture.

>pinot grigio

Never had, but I do not think it is a problem.

> Quaker Oats Peanut Butter Snack Bar


Never had and do not know ingredients

>I got a new bottle of Stevia from Whole Foods.

Stevia never created a problem for me.

Oats are normally okay for As.
Some people who are on gluten free diets exclude
oats, but I would go after the wheat first.



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About this time last year I ate salads for lunch and dinner and fruit smoothies for breakfast and I still was constipated. The only thing that changed that was the psyllium. I hope my problem is not the psyllium. I don't know what I'd do without it as all the fruit and roughage in the world doesn't seem to help me. I had an abdominal CT performed last September and it revealed nothing but a calcified appendix, so it would appear that my abdomin is "healthy."


I now use western larch ( Larix occidentalis ) instead of psyllium.
The NAP product is called ARA6.

I also take 600mg a day of magnesium.



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I forgot to mention that I have a large glass of lemonade first thing when I wake up in the morning then take my dogs for a 10 minute walk, then eat breakfast.


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I now use western larch ( Larix occidentalis ) instead of psyllium.
The NAP product is called ARA6.

I also take 600mg a day of magnesium.




I am not familiar with NAP or ARA6.  I do take one magnesium tablet - not sure of the dosage, but I think it's 30 or 50 mg.


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Emster
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I'll do what I have to and eliminate whatever is necessary to feel better, but I just can't get over the possibility that a food that is supposed to be beneficial for your blood type could possibly cause an allergic reaction to occur.  How is that even possible?


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Quoted from Emster
supposed to be beneficial for your blood type could possibly cause an allergic reaction to occur. How is that even possible?



Food allergies are not necessarily related to blood type.

Hives is a common allergic reaction to food.

Here is some information on allergy:

http://www.dadamo.com/wiki/wik.....s%2c_Dietary/Allergy

But you are eating things that are major avoids
for type A nonsecreators: corn & wheat.

You do not indicate you secreator status.

You are also eating commercial products that may contain avoids
for A secreators.


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I am not familiar with NAP or ARA6. I do take one magnesium tablet - not sure of the dosage, but I think it's 30 or 50 mg.



I do not think you will get much of a laxative effect from 50mg.

NAP is an online store selling products related to the blood type diet.

Here is information on their ARA 6 product:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP001

The generic equivalent to ARA 6 is Larch and
is stocked in most major health food stores,
if you do not want to order online.


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I can t seem to find mention of any amount of compliant protein, be it plant or animal!

I d feel bloated and miserable having all those carbs!
I know I m not an A, and besides a LDN but still!
have you thought of adding ghee to your daily menu?

here s a list of plant protein and other combos you might want to look into, considering your A individuality
Legumes + seeds
Legumes + nuts
Legumes + dairy
Grains + legumes
Grains + dairy


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When I was a kid I had hives a few times and eventually realized it was from strawberries.  Strawberries are supposed to be neutral for me as I am an O secretor  (so yes, you can be allergic to foods on your allowed blood type list) but I remember the Eat Right book originally classified them as an avoid.  I think it was because they can have a lot of mold on their soft flesh.  

About 2 years ago, a doctor who used one of those energy frequency machines said I have 2 types of mold, one of them being systemic.  I've always reacted negatively to damp, moldy places so I finally knew the reason.  Strawberries and mold are listed on this site as being triggers of hives.
http://www.quickcare.org/skin/causes-of-hives.html  

Another problem I have is low adrenal function.  My symptoms were life long, I just didn't identify the cause until recent years.  The connection is that hives can occur when adrenals are low or unbalanced.  Because the adrenals aren't working properly, the body has a difficult time detoxifying molds and toxins so they can build up inside of us.  If you can recharge the adrenals you can begin to reduce the load of these allergy triggers.

Just some thoughts to help you in your search.
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Quoted from Emster
I'll do what I have to and eliminate whatever is necessary to feel better, but I just can't get over the possibility that a food that is supposed to be beneficial for your blood type could possibly cause an allergic reaction to occur. How is that even possible?


Coconut is neutral for A nons, but I am highly allergic to it.


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Your daily sample menu

If your menu is typical then you are overdoing grains and dairy not getting adequate amounts of both protein and fruit/vegetables.  And that will adversely affect you in many ways, inlcuding your succeptibility to allergic reactions.  

Per LR an A secretor should aim for the following frequencies:

grains - 7-9 x per week

eggs/milk & yogurt/cheese - 1-3 x per week each

beans& legumes - 5-7 x per week

nuts & seeds - 4-7 x per week

fruit & fruit juices - 3-4 x per day

vegetables - unlimited amounts per day

As you can see the only food groups you are supposed to consume daily are fruit and lots of veg as well as a daily serving of  protein - for protein ideas see the quote from Lola's earlier reply.

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I can t seem to find mention of any amount of compliant protein, be it plant or animal!

here s a list of plant protein and other combos you might want to look into, considering your A individuality
Legumes + seeds
Legumes + nuts
Legumes + dairy
Grains + legumes
Grains + dairy


Allergies
As for allergies - you may have adverse reactions to any food be it beneficial or avoid.  You should avoid any food that gives you an adverse reaction.  

BTD will help you make dietary choices that will allow your body to be(come) healthy and function at an optimal level, it will allow you to stay clear of foods that will damage you in the long-run but you may still have problems with some of the foods that will generally be recommended for your type.  

Just listen to your body and stay clear of those foods.  As your body heals you may well find that you can reintroduce foods (beneficials/neutrals) which currently cause you adverse reactions.  

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interesting read on allergies
http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/gke.htm


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Dear Emster,
Sorry to hear of your frustrating experience with hives. I can tell you my experience (nursing background)  and some things I learned from Hulda Clark.
My children, grandchildren and I are all susceptible to getting hives. This happens to me when my liver is overloaded. I try to do liver cleanses 2x per year and I always take milk thistle with skip times of a few days per week as herbalists recommend. this prevents a hive reaction. I get hives from new paint, going in stores (Kmart is bad for that), perfumes, etc.. You can also develop allergies to things you've taken previously and not been bothered by-like psyllium. Psyllium is also drying to the body-it's not one of my favorites for fiber.
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Sunny,
have you read this?
http://www.dadamo.com/napharm/gke.htm


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Hi Lola,
Yes I did read this article.
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Quoted from Martian_Sunset


Coconut is neutral for A nons, but I am highly allergic to it.


i cant eat coconut it doesnt sit right in my tummy.would this be true for most A nonnies?

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I'll do what I have to and eliminate whatever is necessary to feel better, but I just can't get over the possibility that a food that is supposed to be beneficial for your blood type could possibly cause an allergic reaction to occur. How is that even possible?

Emster,

Sorry to be so tardy in seeing this thread...  There are different mechanisms at work between BTD friendly and Allergen...  

BTD friendly is based on lectins, etc. that affect how the foods affect the blood after ingestion.

Allergens are items that the body has an abnormal reaction to.  The abnormal reaction can be caused by exposure to the substance during a period of extreme stress or trauma.  An allergy can also develop due to many low grade exposures to a substance during times of pain, etc.  

The book "Say Goodbye to Illness" - http://www.naet.com/PublicWebS.....fc8b98fef3b8a4099384
describes this process better than any other I've seen.  



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i cant eat coconut it doesnt sit right in my tummy.would this be true for most A nonnies?

Not necessarily, but we are all different.


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Dear Emster,
I am now writing a long time after you posted this. Hopefully you have already found a solution. In case you have not I thought I would share something with you.

My mother and myself, both A's, love coffee. However, I get constipated even after half an odd cup. With a daily cup I used to end up with hives as well as pimples and many other terrible things. My mother gets hives above her eyelids.

Maybe it is as simple as eliminating coffee?

let me know what you think?
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