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ansonlager
Thursday, July 5, 2007, 4:51am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Still struggling to come up with a menu plan to alleviate problems.  I tried taking a lactase enzyme pill today before my meals to see if that might alleviate my stomach issues. It has been getting worse lately and making me quite upset.  My wife calls me Buddha Belly now whenever we eat!!! , and I do not eat at any restaurants or friends homes anymore. (makes for a bad social life :-\     The pill seemed to do some good things.  I am still at a fairly high level of bloating, but it feels like my stomach/intestines are "cleaning house" if you know what I mean.  I did not suffer from a major mood swing post eating, and had quite a good amount of energy too! I have never suffered from loose b.m. from my food maladies, only severe bloating, and mood swings.

I am wondering that as a B, if I use a lactase enzyme pill with my meals, could it be possible for my body to remember that "oh, I am supposed to be providing this enzyme on my own?" I am hoping that I could eventually ween myself off the pills and still have dietary success. (I don't like to be dependant on any sort of pill/medication)
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have you done a secretor test yet?


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dearest half of mine  

I knew this problem as well, I take to every bigger meal some enzyme pills; but until know I didn't gave a try to the lactase pillies ...perhaps should I give a try as well as I am also lactose intolerant .......

Bouddha belly....hmmmm did you knew that most of those porters are hypersensitive?
Is that possible that you are in need of a certain protection About moodswings.......
would you mind to give sam-e or phenylalanine or 5HTP a try

All the best to you  

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What type of dairy products are you eating? Have you tried giving up cow dairy products and only use goat dairy products? The goat dairy products will be easier for you digest. I know some other Bs can't tolerate cow dairy products.


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What about only using cultured dairy !


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I have tried using only cultured dairy products, with limited success, but I crave milk. Like in a huge I can't go a day without it way. The only problem with cultured dairy is slight excema that I only get when eating cheese that is made using animal based enzyme/rennet. So I must use the microbial enzyme cheeses, which fortunately there is a plethora of, if I am willing to search it out. Also, fortunately the girl at our local Whole Foods is vegetarian and gave us a quick tour of all the non-animal rennet cheeses!

I have tried using just non-cow dairy products, but alas the same distended stomach problems. Plus I hate goat milk in a major way. Tastes like I am drinking hay.

Any thoughts on my first question, about possibly being able to jump-start what should be my body's natural inclination to produce lactase on its own?

It may help to know that when I was around ten I was sent to the emergency room with what the doctors thought was appendicitus, only my appendix appeared to be fine once they checked it. The pain was so horrendous that I could not walk. It was the middle of the night and I had to drag myself down the hall to my parent's room where they scooped me up and raced to the hospital.  I can probably guess that my digestion issues arrived shortly after that. The doctors never removed my appendix, but my blood cell counts were through the roof, and they never really told us what was wrong, just that my appendix was not causing the problem.  I wonder if my body lost the ability to produce lactase due to my illness, whatever that illness was?  
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or excess agglutination of possible avoids in your diet and you being very susceptible to these.


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I am wondering that as a B, if I use a lactase enzyme pill with my meals, could it be possible for my body to remember that "oh, I am supposed to be providing this enzyme on my own?"

I doubt it is going to work like that.  

Have you confirmed that the problem is from eating dairy products? If so, have you confirmed that if you take enough lactase enzyme pills that it resolves the problem?

If that works that is the best answer for you for now to allow you to continue to consume dairy products. Maybe over time you might improve, but I wouldn't count on it.



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what's about rice milk or almond milk.......orrr even sheep milk this is much better than goat milk......

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I suffer from the lactose intolerant. I also suffer from 0 transfat foods. Anything that I eat that is 0 transfat gives me terrible stomach cramps(just like the lactose cramps). Then within a day of eating this product - diarrihia. It is so frustrating because I can not eat anything. The last couple of days we had to run out for lunch (fast food of course). Massive stomach pains which I know was the 0 transfat. Even Synder's pretzels.

I can't eat anything. Can't eat out. Can't eat at other peoples house. My family thinks I am nuts and it is all in my head.

I don't want to go to a Dr. because I know he will put me on all kinds of meds but somedays when the pain is bad I wonder if I should get is check out.

I feel your pain Buddha belly.
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another half of mine and I know as well those pains...so please go for a good complete enzymatic aid and then all be well soon no more probs with fats...nor lactose ...and perhaps also get your secretor status done...might be that you are a nonnie as well ......good luck to you
and please...please...you aren't nuts at all but no allopathic meds...ok ....look into LR4YT...and get changed a bit of your diet ....and you are going to improve amazingly
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What kind of  good complete enzymatic aid do you suggest? I'm desparate. I limit my diet but things slip up on me.
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please have an eye into this:www.natvd.com...they do have several different kinds of digesting aids....
all plantmade ...and organic as well ......
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I went to the website and typed in enzymatic aid and nothing came up. Then I typed enzyme and a list of several came up. I noticed lactaid enzyme which I take if I have dairy(which is rare). Is this what you are talking about.
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try eating in silence and breath through your nose when eating ( most people with post meal' budda belly' breath mostly through their mouths and hence fill their stomachs with air while chewing)  and do not drink anything with your meals


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I don't breathe thru my mouth and I always eat with my mouth closed. This is not the problem.
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In that case, I can have you over for dinner anytime!!!


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Yes, that is one of my pet peeves - eating with your mouth open, smacking, or talking with your mouth open. Drives me crazy. Can't stand to see someone doing this. Very Rude.
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Quoted from ansonlager
It may help to know that when I was around ten I was sent to the emergency room with what the doctors thought was appendicitus, only my appendix appeared to be fine once they checked it. The pain was so horrendous that I could not walk. It was the middle of the night and I had to drag myself down the hall to my parent's room where they scooped me up and raced to the hospital.  I can probably guess that my digestion issues arrived shortly after that. The doctors never removed my appendix, but my blood cell counts were through the roof, and they never really told us what was wrong, just that my appendix was not causing the problem.  I wonder if my body lost the ability to produce lactase due to my illness, whatever that illness was?  


I had a similar situation when I was 13 years old.  I was sick and missed schools a total of 40+ days from January until April due to doubled-over pain.  Dr. initially thought it was appenics but white counts were normal every time they checked.  My younger sis had her appendics out about 3 weeks before me with emergency surgery and so after consistent illness the Dr. went ahead and sent me to the hospital.  They openned me up and saw that it wasn't my appendics but there was a severe infection and swelling of the intestines.  They said they had seen this several times the past year and noted that once the appendics was removed the pain subsided.  It did, but to this day I suffer from sever bloating...daily.  I've been on the BTD for a week.  The first few days I didn't feel as bloated as typical, but the last few days it has been really bad.  

I don't know if this helps, but I know what you are going through.  I'm gonna try the bromelin (spelling) enzyme prior to meals and see if the bloating goes away.  I hope something works for you!

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