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Shane Girl
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Hello!

I'm a Type O (don't know secretor status), I have began reading through ER4YT, and like the idea that the diets are individualized.  Makes more sense than other things I've read.  Being a RN with an undergrad in Natural Health I have had the opportunity of reading many many ideas for what the "correct" diet should be.  All of them having the one-size-fits-all approach.  

For the past two years, I have been a Pesco-Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian.  I have had trouble losing weight.  Despite the fact that I exercise 3-4 times a week, and eat plenty of fruits, vegetables, and soy products.  I'm about 10-15 lbs over weight.  I have started making the changes over to the BTD by cutting out dairy (sucks!), wheat (about 1/2 of what is in my kitchen), and introducing meat starting with chicken.  I am a little nervous about eating red meat on a regular basis.  I have a family history of coronary artery disease, and both grandfather's died from heart attacks.  My father is a Type 2 diabetic, and has elevated cholesterol, as do I.  I am only 29 with a cholesterol of 182 - on a vegetarian diet???  So you can imagine my anxiety with eating red meat.  Any ideas???  

Nice to meet all of you, by the way!
Shane
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Hey Shane Girl...welcome to the forums and the BTD way of life.  As an O, it is not the lean red meat that gives us bad cholesterol but the grains and sugars. Vegetarian diet...been there done that.  I only lasted six months on it.  There are others on this forum who had been vegetarians for years (O's) and are now BTD hunter meat eaters.  

The four main things (IMHO) to get rid of for we O's is the wheat, corn, dairy, pork and if you are a non-secretor especially the sugars.  Once you rid yourself of those the fine tuning comes in.  You have read Eat Right 4 Your Type.  I would get a hold of the Live Right 4 Your Type.  It will explain things alot better and more extensively.  Especially about secretor status and lifestyle and it is more up-to-date.   For your dad you can pick up the Diabetes 4 Your Type book which will help him out.   Good luck and keep us posted.

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O vegetarian
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivec/config.pl?read=121919


http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=GC,v=display,m=1152583838,s=0
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It is only my completely subjective opinion that many grain eating-vegetarian type O's are dopamine deficient, and perhaps because of this some tend be more introverted, others more angry or agitated.


http://www.dadamo.com/fao/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1072550006
O's and vegetarian and veganism and a thread you may like to look at is:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=lr4yt,m=1125103517,s=0

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Most of the vegetable proteins are not metabolized efficiently by type O, and some inhibit their proper functioning of the thyroid.


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red meat (low fat, lean, preferably grass fed) meat for O's actually brings down your cholesterol levels and helps you absorb more calcium from food...this is due to an abundance of an enzyme called Alkaline Phosphatase that O's have which is a fat buster but it needs good quality protein like grass fed meat to activate

high amounts of grain based carbohydrates like wheat and milk products brings up cholesterol levels in O's

grains like wheat promote insulin resistance for O's

Just because you have family history of heart disease and diabetes does not mean you are doomed to get it...change the environment (what goes into your mouth) according to your unique Blood type physiology and you can keep the disease dormant


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Mike is right.

My cholesterol, triglycerides and glucose levels improved significantly on the BTD...even when my blood was drawn after eating a large steak for lunch  I was eating according to the food pyramid before, little meat, some soy, lots of whole grains, with some calorie restrictions, but my weight was high, my cholesterol was about 214, triglycerides were about 185, and blood sugar was nearing pre-diabetes.  After being on BTD for a year or less, they were all back within perfect range, as was my weight.  When I went on the non-secretor diet in earnest, my HDL went up pretty significantly as well.

It's good to be an O, when you eat like an O.  


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have you read the tutorial?
specially the last lesson thereof, on secretor status?
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/1.htm


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Thanks to all of you for all the info & support!  This makes sense.  Type O's eating a lot of corn, wheat, dairy, and pork could explain the amount of diabetes and obesity in our country.  I could teach my patients a lot, if only nursing at my job had a voice!  

"...an abundance of an enzyme called Alkaline Phosphatase..."  I totally get it.  Thanks!  Alkaline Phosphatase does not interact well with foods that create an alkaline environment such as all of the above, right?

I suppose I should know my secretor status.  Thanks for the links & info, Debra, Lola, Mike & Melissa!  I'll keep you posted.

Peace and stuff!
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Hi Shane!

Just alittle something to share with you:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=storybd,m=1169530318

You mentioned Pesco-Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian-what category of vegetarian is this, I'm curious!

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Hi Shane!

Just a little something to share with you:
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=storybd,m=1169530318

You mentioned Pesco-Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian-what category of vegetarian is this, I'm curious!

Welcome aboard  


Thanks for the link! Very cool!  

That category is Seafood, Eggs and Dairy.  Most vegetarians do not consider that a vegetarian.  It's basically everything except poultry and red meat.  I said that to more clearly reflect my diet for the last few years.  I don't take the title very seriously, and have consequently offended true vegetarians without meaning to.  I guess I was just a chick that didn't eat poultry or red meat.    

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the lacto part was not too good.....


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I, too, have been vegetarian. My cholesterol was borderline high when I was a vege and is now right in the middle range of normal.

I'm not sure who originally pointed it out but you will notice once you stick to the O diet that you actually eat more vegetables on the BTD than when you were a vege. Most vegetarians are starchitarians, eating a staple of pasta, rice and other grains, complemented by vegetables.

The O type plate tends to be over half full of veges (beautiful leafy greens like kale, spinach & broccoli) complemented by a nice piece of lovingly reared lean meat.

It may be tough at first but you will soon not miss the wheat & dairy. The benefits are just too good
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I, too, have been vegetarian. My cholesterol was borderline high when I was a vege and is now right in the middle range of normal.

I'm not sure who originally pointed it out but you will notice once you stick to the O diet that you actually eat more vegetables on the BTD than when you were a vege. Most vegetarians are starchitarians, eating a staple of pasta, rice and other grains, complemented by vegetables.

The O type plate tends to be over half full of veges (beautiful leafy greens like kale, spinach & broccoli) complemented by a nice piece of lovingly reared lean meat.

It may be tough at first but you will soon not miss the wheat & dairy. The benefits are just too good



This is true, I ate a lot of pasta, cheese, breads, lots of soy...way too much sugar.  I knew that the bread and pasta should be cut down, but I felt like I couldn't eat anything else because I wasn't eating beef and poultry, and I was worried about eating too many eggs, and too much seafood, so that was minimal.  The past few nights we've had veggies, and either fish, chicken, or meat for dinner.  I felt less bloated that way....so...that's a start I guess.  Now I just need to buy organic, grass fed meat.
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the lacto part was not too good.....


Not so good for personal relationships either!  HaHa!  
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Shane girl, you said an interesting thing....that IAP may not interact well with an alkaline environment such as from grains, etc. but my understanding is that grains are acid......? hmmmm, I wonder if someone can clarify.
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Shane girl, you said an interesting thing....that IAP may not interact well with an alkaline environment.........are grains alkaline? (you see I am trying to get the optimal acid/alkaline balance to address my arthritis.....) I just mean this is  an interesting subject....optimal balance...

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jayneeo,
are you following the arthritis health series book?
you have all the balance you need in those guidelines.


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Shane girl, you said an interesting thing....that IAP may not interact well with an alkaline environment.........are grains alkaline? (you see I am trying to get the optimal acid/alkaline balance to address my arthritis.....) I just mean this is  an interesting subject....optimal balance...


Jayneeo,

To be totally honest, I'm not real sure.  I am still reading ER4YT, and just began the change.  I understand that Type O has an increase in Alkaline Phosphatase, meant to break down meat, meat is acidic, so it would balance the alkaline, however, I'm not sure if grains are alkaline - maybe... that would make sense.  It doesn't seem like it's about the acid/alkaline balance as much as how certain lectins are metabolized in certain blood types.  With that statement, I was rephrasing something Mikeo has said....hmm...  anybody else know the answer to that question?

Shane

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I found a place where they list alkaline and acid foods and have a good explanation what it is all about:

http://rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm

It takes 13 sheet of paper to copy all of it.
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although not separated by blood type, right?

BTD has taken that balance into account........


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thank you geminisue, and also shanegirl....It is very interesting...there's so much science to it all. And yes to Lola, I am following the arthritis book, which tipped me off to the fact that I was perhaps eating more meat than needed, which i take to mean it could create too acidic an environment, however I realize that O's can be ok with a slightly more acidic condition....(thanks for your input!)
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I found a place where they list alkaline and acid foods and have a good explanation what it is all about:

http://rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm

It takes 13 sheet of paper to copy all of it.


Wow, cool list, geminisue!  It's funny, some beneficial foods for O are alkaline, some acidic, and visa versa.  So, it must break down even further than just acid/base balance.

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Hi Shanegirl!

I, too,  was a vegetarian   with  high cholesterol and and weight issues.. it just seemed so hard to keep my weight  stable..   My cholesterol was 243... and I was a marathon runner and vegetarian,  so it's not like I wasn't in shape!

Anyway, I've been on the BTD for about 3 or 4 years now... I eat  lots of veggies and small portions of meat.. and guess what?  when I had it checked this last winter it had gone  down to  below 150!  now that is amazing!!!  and my weight is MUCH more stable.. the only thing I have to watch is not being so heavy handed with the olive oil.. I tend to crave big  salads with some  ground beef and olive oil.. mm.. my favorite!   anyway, I eat beef at least once a day and sometimes twice..  and my cholesterol is fabulous... so weird!     but keep it up!  
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Hey Sheri!

Awesome, thanks for sharing!!  It's nice to know I'm not the only exercising vegetarian with weight issues.  

I've been doing this for about a week.  I cut out wheat and dairy to start.  I think my meat portions, and olive oil are too large.  About what should the servings be for women?  Is a portion the size of your palm for meat?  A tbsp of of olive oil?  What about cooking with olive oil?

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