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ArwenLegolas
Tuesday, June 5, 2007, 5:38pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I remember when first reading the book, that it said that ABs which have a low stomach acid level, should not drink water with with meals but wait 30 minutes or drink it 30 minutes before. But I would like you to consider the following, and tell me what you think.

Why doesn't drinking lots of water with a meal dilute your stomach acid
making it impossible to digest your food ?

Several factors are at work in the stomach so that what you suggest by your
question will not happen within normal limits of eating and drinking habits.
Under normal conditions, the stomach would distend due to the water in the
stomach. This initiates a stretch reflex in the wall of the stomach which
causes the secretion of an enterogastric hormone called gastrin. (Did you
realize that the GI tract secreted hormones?) Gastrin goes through the
circulatory system and effects cells in the stomach's lining that secrete
HCL and probably pepsinogen (the precursor of pepsin, the protein digesting
enzyme of the stomach) So, the more distention, the more gastrin and the
more acid and enzyme. Pretty great system! The other factor is that other
cells that line the stomach secrete bicarbonate to help preserve the proper
pH so that the extra water would not effect the pH which could upset the
gastrin cycle since it is pH dependant. Still another factor may be of
help too. If the above mentioned factors don't work properly and stomach
protein or lipid digestion doesn't function well, both of these food groups
are normally further digested in the small intestine anyway so you would
still get proper digestion there. I hope this helps you understand this
homeostatic mechanism.
This was send to me when I said that drinking water during meals would dilute my stomach acids doing me no good.

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Itita
Tuesday, June 5, 2007, 6:35pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hi AL (Lord of the Rings fan? ),
Thank you so much for posting this info: really interesting stuff.  I've been avoiding drinking water during and straight after meals almost religiously since going on the BTD.
It would be great to get some feedback on this: has anyone got any thoughts about the topic or personal experiences to share?
Thanks  
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ISA-MANUELA
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good point AB-confrère ......
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Hi AL,
personally I can't drink  great quantity of water in my meals as an A. When stomac acid is low I find it useful not to drink water with meals, but when I need I have tea, grapefruit or pineapple juice, and or I sip a quarter of glass of wine.
May be it is for me a question of having a quick processin the stomac to the gut for my well being, but this save from reflux and acidity feeling, because of a long sitting of food in the stomac..
From Fall, in winter and till to early Spring, I am a fan of green tea also with meals but I do not drink it with lunch and dinner, as I have two or three cups of tea at breakfast, (iced tea in summer).
best regards from a Tolkien fan too here !
Maria Giovanna


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I usually only drink water (a few ounces) if the food is super spicy but otherwise never. I will have the occasional glass of red wine but tend to start drinking it at the end of the meal


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Alia,
I appreciate the link, but I don't think there is ever a point during my waking day that I go two hours without drinking water...  I usually drink at least 8 oz. per hour.  I usually drink liquid about 15 minutes before the meal or about a half hour after...  Sometimes can't wait longer...


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ArwenLegolas
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Itita, yes I am a Lord of the Rings fan. But Arwen Legolas is actually my Real Name.

Alia, into "Dune"? Well, that link is also in the book, and that is what what I posted somewhere and the answer I got is the one I posted. Maybe Doctor D could have a go at this.  How can I get this to him?
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ArwenLegolas,
You can send Dr. D'Adamo more information in a 'PM' and he can respond to you privately at his convenience.  Or you can post the question in a new thread openly in this public forum.

Alia



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AL,

Hurray!  Another AB!  I value anything you say as my AB daugher is an enigma to me.

Just want to put here, since we're on the subject:

"You can keep your nasty taters!"  -Gollum


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water does interfere with digestion...(enzymes)  i normally wait at least an hour after meals before sipping water...  then just a few sips... at least for another hour.  
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I believe a few sips with a meal is fine if one is going to drink with their meals; I believe the digestive challenges of drinking liquids with meals is heightened when one consumes a large amount of liquids while eating.  By large amounts, I am referring to 16 ounces or more of liquids, which is usually offered at restaurants, at fast food establishments, and in commercial 'sodas, drinks, beverages', et al.

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If I drink water after a meal - even if it is only half a glass (US 4oz?) in order to wash down a supplement - I'll end up with acid reflux 8 out of ten times.  Drinking water 20 minutes or so before a meal is fine for me.
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just for you my beloved A's -half of mines our maischdda wrote to create a bit more of stomach acidity to go for a very light blacktea about 30 minutes before meals ....sorry it's written in LR4YT if I remember well.....


if you want to stop eating to much, better to go for a biiiig glass of H2O just before every meal, because  of feeling full you won't eat that much

and I think...hmmmm here I am with my AB-conrère Joe....I drink during, before and after my meals with no problems, but I get problems if I dont' drink.......

didn't I saw an article about that thema from one of our newbies made some days ago inwhich it is shown up how special pattern are working to create stomach acidity as well and other yummy secrets

btw: A L....just a very beautiful name....is that outta hobbitland or northern countries  

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tea (green and black) is fantastic in giving me acid reflux, Isa! You know, I never had these acid problems before I became more compliant. Hmm could be the tea is the culprit.


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Hi Everybody!  

How about having soup as part of your meal?!  I'm not a great soup eater, but I do have a cup of miso broth quite often and it's mostly water...

Also, isn't coffee supposed to help a bit with digestion or is it an Italian myth?  
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Quoted from Itita
Hi Everybody!  

How about having soup as part of your meal?!  I'm not a great soup eater, but I do have a cup of miso broth quite often and it's mostly water...

Also, isn't coffee supposed to help a bit with digestion or is it an Italian myth?  


Miso soup is quite nice. I don't think having coffee is good for your digestion Itita. I know the Italians like to have their expresso after meals (I was one of them) but I don't believe it does anything for our digestion   I could be wrong.


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Itita,
being an A secretor, a cup or two of coffee helps!
enjoy it!


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I am sooo sorry for you AB-soeur-le so it seems that you've enough of stomach acidity hmm
good news...now
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I believe I remember reading in one of the books or here online that having a cup of coffee helps us produce more acid so we can better digest our food.  I know that when I was pregnant and had terrible heartburn at night, I'd go fix myself a cup of decaf and my heartburn would instantly vanish.


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