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Sucralose is (and I may be mistaken) the same thing that's used in Splenda! Oh the horrors!

Wait a minute --- I just saw on the Bioplex page that they make a *Natural flavor. I wonder if this is sucralose-free? I'll check next time I'm at the HFS.


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Hallo dear ladies
Don't forget lecithin in it and a spoonfull of flux seed oil with your beneficial juice turns out cell membrance moisturizer.
I was off smoothies for a few months but   is a week now I am back.
My favorite is pineapple one.
I like the idea of egg white powder. I'll look for it.

Peppermint I am following you, (you know, news paper hut and coat)
as we are the same age if you do well I do well too. Let's be compliant. You have the chips battle going on and I have the chocolate one. what do you say? who is going to win. Them or Us?


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whatdya mean natural flavor? mine are just egg whites!! Nada mas.
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Has anyone tried Mt. Capra Goat whey?  I'm going to have to order some online because I can't find it locally.  I love my smoothies but I need some more protein, and I eat enough eggs already.
Lakewood pineapple juice
goat yogurt
blueberries and cherries
ARA6 (larch powder)
ProBerry Liquid

I'm having my smoothie for a mid-day snack since too much cold food in the a.m. is bogging my digestiion down.  Now, it's warm food for breakfast.  What a change for me.



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that's how I do it , Victoria. mid afternoon it makes a great snack and keeps me from the rye krisps....
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Quoted from ion_amygdalou

Hallo dear ladies
Don't forget lecithin in it and a spoonfull of flux seed oil with your beneficial juice turns out cell membrance moisturizer.
I was off smoothies for a few months but is a week now I am back.
My favorite is pineapple one.
I like the idea of egg white powder. I'll look for it.

Peppermint I am following you, (you know, news paper hut and coat)
as we are the same age if you do well I do well too. Let's be compliant. You have the chips battle going on and I have the chocolate one. what do you say? who is going to win. Them or Us?

I was just saying to some co-workers this fine a.m. that I wish I had the chocolate addiction instead of the chip one.  Because chocolate is a dang sight better for you than chips.  If I eat a bag of those Kettle Chips, not only is the potato a classic avoid, complete with lectin and nightshade capacity for inflamation, but it has soooooooooooooooooooooooo many calories and carbs, not to mention fat and whatever that carcinogenic acid is that forms when certain starches are deep-fried...what is it again?  Anyway, even my "healthier" brand of chips are baaaahd.  Okay, so they are "pure" and don't have transfats, artificial flavs and colors, hydrogenated whatever, autolyzed yeast, MSG, etc.  But STILL, omg.  And I wonder why I am fat and don't lose weight.

Fruit!  Fruit is the thing!  Chi, life, vitality, energy, color, phytonutrients, vitamins, enzymes, hydration, lutein, lycopene, ETC.!

Yay!  



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Victoria--I'm moving smoothies to dinnertime for the same reason. Cold or even cool drinks in the morning make me sluggish and give me indigestion. A nice healthy hot breakfast with plenty of greens and protein, and I'm good to go. Smoothies in the evening . . . yumm!

Twin: try taking Rhodiola with a good B complex vitamin in the mornings. It's starting to make a BIG difference for me in terms of craving starches, including and especially wheat. Summer heat stresses me out big time, but this routine is beginning to make a dent in the stress and consequently, cravings. It could help with yours as well.

And yeah, chocolate is a slightly better craving to have than chips. I've had both. I like chocolate better.


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whatdya mean natural flavor? mine are just egg whites!! Nada mas.


Here's a link to the site...at the bottom are their flavors and the Natural flavor is starred. http://www.bioplexnutrition.com/product_detail.php?prod_id=135.


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All this talk of smoothies and I started to crave one. This time I made it with a few cherries, some blackberries, brown rice protein powder, ground flax seeds, and pineapple juice. Oh! The pineapple juice made it over the top (as in very delicious)! No nut butter this time, either...or the dreaded flax/borage oil (gag). Perhaps I was mistaken about the cherries, because this time it is smooth and creamy.


I had an interesting reaction to this smoothie. As soon as I finished it, I got incredibly sleepy, and went to lie down for a quick nap. 45 mins later, I was awake but groggy, so I made my turkey/spinach "faux" chile for lunch. Then around 3pm I was craving sweets, so I broke down and made some almond/soy milk with unsweetened cocoa powder and veg gly and promptly fell asleep on the couch for another two hours!


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Oh,interesting....mine has only egg whites as ingredients......must be the natural....
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Quoted from Edna

I was just saying to some co-workers this fine a.m. that I wish I had the chocolate addiction instead of the chip one.


Noooo....PT, never wish that one on yourself...IMO they must both be as bad as each other. In fact, if you look at it in the cold light of day...you know that any addiction is bad news
I speak as one who constantly fights with chocolate...but am winning at this moment


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I dunno, from where I sit, it seems that chocolate is healthier than chips.  But you're right, any addiction is bad news.


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Back to smoothies, yesterday's experience aside, I'm with Brig and Victoria...no more smoothies for me until dinner...or maybe lunch, if I don't have a lot of sitting planned...sitting = sleepy.


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Well, guys, I'm SO glad I decided to go back to the chiro today and furthermore to pick the 10:00 a.m. slot they offered me instead of the 4:00 p.m. slot. Not only did he fix what he broke (see separate thread on that whole thing, if you feel like it), but now I have the time and fit-as-a-fiddleness this afternoon after work to go SMOOTHIE SHOPPING! I'm off to buy all manner of organic bananas, frozen fruit, pineapple juice, etc.! Yay!!!!! Let the Summer of the Smoothie officially commence!

 Have a great, smooooooth weekend, y'all!


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Well, The Summer of the Smoothie commenced this weekend but was not without unfortunate incident. I ended up getting a "Charlie Horse" that night for the first time in ages and there is definitely something I notice, which makes NO SENSE, but nevertheless seems to be a reproducible result, so I have to take note of it: It seems that when I consume a lot of potassium, or something found in fruit/fruit juice, I get a wicked Charlie Horse in the middle of the night (just in recent years, mind you).

The last time I recall getting one is when I drank an entire jar of 100% pure cranberry juice (I thought I might have a bladder infection, but I didn't...anyway, I figured the cranberry juice couldn't hurt either way, but I think I overdid it *lol*). Result was, that night: wicked Charlie Horse.

Well, now I had this smoothie on Saturday afternoon, and it was pineapple juice, a large banana and raspberries. That was going to be my dinner (I consumed it at around 4:00 p.m.), but I ended up hungry later (see, I should have eaten lunch, but instead I had breakfast at 6:45 a.m. and then that smoothie at 4:00 p.m., so no wonder I was hungry later), so I had a roast beef sandwich on millet and flax bread.

Middle of the night: Charlie horse!!!!!!!!!!! They are so painful and scary as they are happening. I mean, one minute you are asleep or just barely awake and the next your calf muscle is in spasm! WHY? It feels like the muscle is going to rip apart in two! I have learned to just tell myself "relax, relax, relax" as it is happening (yeah, good luck with that), because if you go with your gut and try to grab your leg or move in any way, it is going to be WORSE! Then when the spasm ends, you can kinda massage it a little and/or try to get up and walk. Usually, it is sore but okay afterward. That in itself is a wonder to me because as I said, when it is underway, it really feels that the muscle is tearing into two distinct and seperate pieces.

I know it is some sort of electrolyte imbalance, as I've posted about the other times this has happened, but I'm really now tying it to fruit juice and/or massive potassium ingestion...which I don't get. I thought potassium was supposed to be soothing to muscles. But me guesses it is all about the electrolyte balance. Maybe the potassium would be okay if something else were there to counteract it?

I don't know but, man, those things hurt like heck and are scary when they're happening, even though you know that usually you are okay afterward. A few times, the muscle has actually been a hurting pup for a day or two afterward, but usually it is just a little sore, if anything, but fine.

It is so wild.

Does anyone know what I need to have in order to enable me to consume fruit juices and/or bananas at will, without Charlie horse worries? The first time I ever experienced this was in roughly 1999, when I decided (and this lasted all of 11 days *lol*) to combine Atkins with the BTD. After a few days on Atkins induction: Charlie horse!!!!!!!!!!! That was the first one. And I consider the Atkins induction phase with the 20 gms of carbs to be fairly unbalanced if not executed perfectly. I remember, the whole time, I thought: if I could just have one big bowl of SALAD, I'd be okay. But at the time, Atkins induction was far stricter than I understand it is now. So I'm sure I wasn't getting something I needed. Again, it is all about balance.

Has anyone else had Charlie horses from potassium or something else in fruit/fruit juice?

Wild.

Edited to add: not sure if this factors in, but I took two NAC (N-acetyl cysteine) tablets that afternoon, too, because I was exposed to perfumed hair spray, big time, as I got my hair cut and the chick next to me was getting sprayed to beat the band with toxic, caustic atomized hideousness. Plus, we've had all that smoke in the air for weeks and weeks and Tropical Storm Barry finally cleared it all out, so I figured two NAC's were in order.


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drat, found another typo:  "Charlie horse's" to "Charlie horses"...and while in the thaang I changed one period to an exclamation point.
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nope, there was a typo:  "in in spasm" to "is in spasm"...maybe now I'm done???
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I had a Charlie horse back about a month ago that shot me right out of bed in the middle of the night - I have no idea what caused it other than I've been eating way more avoids than I should be and it's been no good.  I don't know why I can't stay on track - I even made my smoothy today and brought it to work with me so I started out good and then made a bad bad choice at lunch time.  Ugh...when will I ever learn.  It's so hot here it's unbeliveable too - and our AC at work is worthless - I am not happy when I'm too hot!


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I had a Charlie horse back about a month ago that shot me right out of bed in the middle of the night - I have no idea what caused it other than I've been eating way more avoids than I should be...

Well, mine seems triggered by healthy stuff:  fruit and fruit juice!  I get 'em just as you do:  the shoot-you-out-of-bed-in-the-middle-of-the-night variety.  They are WILD and woolly.

I'm going to Google "Potassium and charlie horse" and "fruit juice and charlie horse" when I get some time.  I'm going to find out the 411.

Meanwhile, I may have to brave the gas prices and tool on down to Sarasota's Whole Foods to get some of their tonic water that does not contain corn syrup.  They are the only place on planet earth with corn-free tonic water.  The quinine might help the Charlie horse sitch (although their 365 brand really doesn't contain much quinine at all, per my taste buds).  Other than that idea, I got bupkus.



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I hadn't had a Charlie Horse in years and a few weeks ago I had two.  I was lying on the couch watching a Sox game and dozed off and woke up with one that was a real whopper and then I had another one the next day.  I can't remember if I ate avoids or what was going on.  
I've never been a smoothie person but the other day I was home and it was raining.  I had a late breakfast of eggs and manna bread and then mid afternoon I wanted something to eat so I made a smoothie out of bananas, WFs fresh pineapple chunks, a little almond butter and a little pomegranite blueberry juice.  It was delicious!  
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Well, the following is an example of what frustrates me in terms of the information I keep coming across:

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/24161

They all seem to say that a lack of potassium is a culprit, yet I get them specifically when I've had lots of potassium.

That said, some articles mention calcium and Lord knows I could very well be low on that at any given time.  So maybe if one has too much potassium and not enough calcium, THEN a horse of a Charlie nature ensues?

I don't know but I don't want another one.  Lordie.


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And, drat, here's someone who seems to have my exact situation:

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/Symptoms/messages/1693.html

And yet the advice to her abruptly stops after she keeps insisting she only gets them after eating fruits such as bananas and pineapple, exactly as happens to me!

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Have you thought about taking Magnesium Calcium supplements. I know my legaches if I don't take my magnesium citrate but that might just be a B thing.
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I was just going to suggest the same thing:  Magnesium supplements.  That's usually the mineral that is deficient in the case of muscle cramps, from what I have read.

BTW, consider the volume of smoothie that you consumed.  And the other thing, as you mentioned, make sure your other meals provide plenty of solid nutrition, with lots of protein.



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Quoted from jayneeo
Whole Foods. It is made by Bioplex, and I believe it can be found elsewhere, as well.


Now Brand makes egg white protein powder with nothing added. I didn't buy it because I'm still not eating eggs and I still have some protein powder at home...


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Charlie Horse...!?! I've never heard that expression! Good name for it, though!

I too would look into calcium/Magnesium-supps for that.

I remember, I used to have a - heh - Charlie Horse every Wednesday night during my second year of high school. Very strange. No idea what caused it!

On the smoothies - I will dive into them, too, very soon.
I do need a little more summer here to get into fruit-mode, though.
Besides, I'm going very low-carb right now, so fruits are kinda out at the moment. Need to lose that weight!
BUT I did buy a new blender just today, so yay!

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Right now I'm sort of in Albie-in-The-Birdcage condition: "Don't look at me, I'm hideous!"


Aw pooh - I'm sure you're gorgeous, Peppy. Besides, Albie is adorable when he says that! Well OK hysterical, but still adorable!
Hey - we can be hideous and hysterical together!

Back to the smootihes: My smoothies are made very plainly: Frozen raspberries, frozen mango, banana, flax seed oil, and pineapple juice. No dairy, no protein-powder (most sound gritty and gross - brrr... ), no nothing - just plain fruit (and a little oil).

The Smootie-thread has some great recipes - some really inventive, and some really excentric ones, IMO! Enjoy!


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Being an A, I need protein wherever I can find it...and if that means putting it in smoothie, so be it.

I cannot take the flax oil taste. Too strong! But I get enough other oil in my diet, so I'm not worried.
This mornings smoothie that I froze and had for lunch was: frozen cherries, frozen raspberries, and a few frozen strawberries, along with some very diluted cran/apple juice, rice protein powder, flax seeds, and water. Yum and not too sweet. I like to eat a smoothie after it's been in the freezer for a couple of hours...*shrug*


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