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Lisalea
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Which of these two yogurts is BEST for us B's?

Ingredients:
Partly skimmed milk, Bacterial culture, Milk protein concentrate, Skim milk powder.

~ VERSUS~

Ingredients:
Pasteurized skimmed milk, Modified milk ingredients, Active bacterial cultures (Bifidobacterium, Lactobacillus Acidophilus).

or r they both ok and perhaps it would benefit me to alternate between the two different brands ??

Any avoids that I may NOT have noticed in the ingredients

Thanks a bunch !!


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I would probably not eat either because of the milk protein concentrate in one of them and the modified milk ingredients in the other.
Can you find a brand that has just milk and live cultures?  Simple, clean and natural!



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Can you find an organic product so you will avoid the antibiotics and hormones that are fed to regular dairy cows?


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I would probably not eat either because of the milk protein concentrate in one of them and the modified milk ingredients in the other.
Can you find a brand that has just milk and live cultures?  Simple, clean and natural!



really ????!!!!!

Hmmm ... I will try my best to find just milk and live cultures; however, in the meantime is there one that's at least a teeny winy bit better between the two ... just incase that's the best that I can get my hands on

I'm devastated actually ...  'cause here I was eating a half cup daily since I started BTD  convinced that it did NOT have any avoids  
Arghhhh so frustrating ... thank-u so much Victoria  


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Can you find an organic product so you will avoid the antibiotics and hormones that are fed to regular dairy cows?


Oh yes I've found an organic product, BUT it has a bunch of other stuff that I know for sure r avoids ...  
Thanks MoDon


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I'm not saying that either of those are necessarily avoids.  Those ingredients I mentioned are just sort of unknowns.  They are processed foods so it depends on how pure you are interested in your diet being.  As you are probably aware, it's important to me that my foods are in their real state as much as possible, so I don't buy foods that have had a lot of stuff done to them.  If you feel ok about the yogurts and they are the best you can find, then you should just enjoy them.

You might want to find out what Modified Milk Ingredients are.  That is a pretty vague term.



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I'm not saying that either of those are necessarily avoids.  Those ingredients I mentioned are just sort of unknowns.  They are processed foods so it depends on how pure you are interested in your diet being.  As you are probably aware, it's important to me that my foods are in their real state as much as possible, so I don't buy foods that have had a lot of stuff done to them.  If you feel ok about the yogurts and they are the best you can find, then you should just enjoy them.

You might want to find out what Modified Milk Ingredients are.  That is a pretty vague term.


That's very valuable info Victoria, Im lucky to have this informative forum to run to when in doubt  
and I totally agree u about eating foods that r as close as possible to their natural state,  real foods INDEED ... I appreciate u fellow B

Actually,  I just got back from the groceries and I have found a new yogurt that I hadn't noticed before from Liberty Organic No fat!!
Ingredients: Ultrafiltrated organic skim milk, Bacterial culture ... this sounds like the real deal  
Thank-u  


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You might want to find out what Modified Milk Ingredients are.  That is a pretty vague term.


Does anybody have any idea about Modified Milk Ingredients
Thank-u  


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I'm not a B, (alas), but why would you want a fat free product? I would think a little fat would be good...
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I'm not a B, (alas), but why would you want a fat free product? I would think a little fat would be good...

I eat quite a bit of fat on a daily basis actually
Olive oil, almond butter ... sometimes butter etc ... when it comes to yogurt however, I usually alternate between fat free and 2%  


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Whole yoghurt typically contains less additives.
AND the ammount of youghurt you should do pr week makes no problems regarding fat.....
Since I started only doing whole dairy- my craving toward dairy  has lessen enourmously...
I used to do 1/2-1 liter skimmed milk AND about 1/2 liter skimmed yoghurt with artificial sugar....and cheese
BUT toda I feel satisfied with just 1 serving dairy/or yoghurt and cheese aprox the LRT recommendations.
THe dairy fat= makes me satisfied and not fatter.....
I can´t guide you on brands but anything with milk protein concentrate etc I wouldn´t touch... too altered a milk product.


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Lisalea,
I think your example of 'Modified milk' is a low fat milk with a higher level of protein, something like the human milk proportions of fat/protein. 'Modified milk' as a general term however, simply refers to the liquid milk that has added fats like omega 3 etc.

I can't imagine what they taste like. (I love my whole milk. Causes me no problems and I have enviable cholesterol readings, especially for a milkfat lover of an AB .)eh


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and some more
http://www.innovatewithdairy.com/InnovateWithDairy/Articles/IF_Facts_MPC_062905.htm

(Thanks for your post, Lisalea! Without it, I would've remained in the dark about what I've been missing out on. )

Oh, the ultrafiltrated organic skim milk sounds suspicious as well. Treated to filter out the fats, increase the protein and lower the carbohydrate levels (ie lactose).



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Lisa
Whole yoghurt typically contains less additives.



That's valuable info, wow thanks so much Henriette !!

Quoted from Henriette_Bsec
AND the ammount of youghurt you should do pr week makes no problems regarding fat.....


I eat about 1/2 - 3/4 cup of PLAIN yogurt on a daily basis; either alone or with fresh or frozen fruits, nuts or other foods as well

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anything with milk protein concentrate etc I wouldn´t touch... too altered a milk product.


I guess I will stick to the new yogurt brand that I found yesterday; it's ingredients: Ultrafiltrated organic skim milk, Bacterial culture
Yum yum !!

I appreciate ur input very much


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and some more
http://www.innovatewithdairy.com/InnovateWithDairy/Articles/IF_Facts_MPC_062905.htm

(Thanks for your post, Lisalea! Without it, I would've remained in the dark about what I've been missing out on. )

Oh, the ultrafiltrated organic skim milk sounds suspicious as well. Treated to filter out the fats, increase the protein and lower the carbohydrate levels (ie lactose).



U r so very welcome and I thank-u as well for the sites !!


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This site is giving me problems

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Quoted from LISALEA
Which of these two yogurts is BEST for us B's?

Ingredients:
Pasteurized skimmed milk, Modified milk ingredients, Active bacterial cultures (Bifidobacterium, Lactobacillus Acidophilus).


I am usually leery of any type of ingredient that has the word 'modified' next to it  on a food label.  This could have several interpretations: it could be highly processed, it could be genetically modified, it could be mixed with other unknown or unlisted ingredients.

Alia


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Hey Lisalea,
Just out of sheer curiosity, why dont you make your own yoghurt?


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I am usually leery of any type of ingredient that has the word 'modified' next to it  on a food label.  This could have several interpretations: it could be highly processed, it could be genetically modified, it could be mixed with other unknown or unlisted ingredients.

Alia


I have to agree with U; THANK-U for pointing it out Alia

I will NEVER understand why manufactures r allowed to add poisons to our foods and get away with it !!??
Sooooo frustrating ... I want REAL FOODS that will make me thrive and NOT hinder my health ... Arghhhhhh  


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Hey Lisalea,
Just out of sheer curiosity, why dont you make your own yoghurt?


Sheer laziness
Have u ever made ur own ??

Thanks accidental_chef  


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I have and I do - when I have time
but not as often as I ought to since I live in B heaven when it comes to dairy

I just use very fresh whole organic milk- jersey milk is best it is pasturized since our milk is that
- but not ULTRA pasturized....
heat it to around 42 c- add  starter either powder or some of my last yoghurt.
put it into my yoghurt maker- that keeps the temperature around 41 c all the time -
after 4-6 hours - set yoghurt - balkanstyle.
It is not smooth since it is not stired.
It is rather mild in taste  and is very good drained.


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I have to agree with U; THANK-U for pointing it out Alia

I will NEVER understand why manufactures r allowed to add poisons to our foods and get away with it !!??
Sooooo frustrating ... I want REAL FOODS that will make me thrive and NOT hinder my health ... Arghhhhhh  


Unfortunately, processed foods were created so that folks wouldn't have to spend so much time cooking and preparing. Too bad that profits won out over health. Even foods that are marketed to be 'organic' or 'healthy' aren't...and the one's that are are typically overpriced. There is talk that the only REAL foods are those that are whole foods...i.e. no labels. If it has a label, it's not a whole food.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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LisaLea,
It's so easy to make yogurt, and you save money also.  If you have a little ice chest (the size for a six-pack) and 4 pint-sized jars, you don't even need an electric yogurt maker.



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