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Namelessfemm
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I think I'm doing things backwards....I'm not used to eating a big breakfast (used to have a whey protein shake).....

My mornings are filled w/ energy = Larch tree powder in water then 1 hour later - 1 egg & ghee & flax seeds soaked over night

then lunch is a bit heavier = meat 5-6 oz & veggies w/ some manna bread and/or sweet potato and honey.....

then only 3 hours later I'm hungry again~! apple, figs, walnuts

then another 3 hours and I'm hungry for dinner (7-ish) meat, veggies, salad, parsnips,  and I can't stop eating~!!! I can go on and on....for a couple of hours~!!!what's happening to me? My appetite at dinner time is insatiable

Can some O's help me out here.....can you pls gimme some sample meal plan for the day?

thanks to all who respond~!!

^_^

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Hey Namelessfemm...try having some red meat for breakfast along with some green veggies like romaine lettuce salad, kale, spinach, swiss chard, broccoli, collard greens, okra. Getting a start with red meat in the mornings helps curb the hunger and keeps your energy level up.  

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Thanks for the advice Debra....I guess I'm gonna have to give it a go....

I'm reeeeeeeelie not hungry in the mornings though....should I really force myself to eat such a large meal anyway?

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It doesn't have to be a large meal.   Especially when you are first starting out with changing your breakfast.  Once you adapt to it though...there will be no other way.  

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Give it a try and let us know how it goes.


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It took me a while to switch over to protein in the mornings, but once I did my energy levels really took a change for the better.

If you're used to eating a big meal in the evenings, the fat you consume in that meal can suppress your appetite for breakfast. So I would suggest backing off on fats and starches a bit to see if there's a change in your morning hunger.

I would suggest slowly switching to a good-sized breakfast, a smaller lunch and dinner, and maybe more protein-filled snacks in between. You'll find what works best for you along the way


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you probably arent hungry in the morning from all the food you eat at night. i ate too much last night and cant eat anything right now.

i usualy have 1 meat first meal: beef/buffalo/eggs

and then later small vegetable side w/ O.oil: broccoli/okra/asparagus

my second meal is usually: salmon


this plan almost always is never like this, but that's because i never eat the same. its always different. yesterday i had fruit in the morning...buffalo for lunch...and nuts for dinner.
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A shake or smoothie could never do for a meal for me...it has a temporary energy boost but does not last as long as a solid protein meal like meat or three eggs with extras.  

I do have a smoothie each day usually about 11.00am or 4.00pm when I feel I need something to keep the hunger away.  

It's easier to start the day with a stronger foundation and top up than chasing food to fill a void once the hunger hits big time.  

This is my experience...hope it helps  

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Thanks EveryO~!!

I'll give it a whirl~!! I know my body's still adjusting/detoxing right now - this is the part that is frustrating for me (more than the Avoids!) - I keep experiencing changes so I can't fully assess what my body is trying to tell me....

right now I have agita - which is rare...

I had chicken and broccoli this AM - but only b/c I forgot to take out the beef

but I'll have a very big lunch and do very light dinner with no manna w/ ghee and see how I feel tomorrow for breakfast....

Thank you so much for you input~!! My body thanks you~!!

^_^

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I'm having breakfast as I type.  

Swordfish steak cooked with curry powder, garlic, cilantro, and spinach. Casserole style. I'll eat half now, and the rest for my lunch at work. For supper I'll probably have sardines and onions and salad. For snacks walnuts and "Just bananas flattened" from Trader Joe's. I try to have as many super beneficials and beneficials as possible. I figure I'm repairing past damage, and preventing future damage. I've been doing this for a little under a year now, and I feel so much better. The Aging book says that if you're over 55, which I am, that I should be eating 80% beneficials. So, I'm trying. Tomorrow it'll be either beef or buffalo, and the next day cod. I do have an occasional avoid, usually when I'm eating out. And that's only to make sure I get enough to eat, otherwise my blood sugar plummets and the effects are not pleasant.
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CR4YT has a section in the back of the book that contains thirty days of sample menus for each blood group. It is helpful to view these menus to generate new ideas or to think outside of the box of what one is accustomed to eating.

You can use these sample menus to design meals and snacks of your own:
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED002S

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 it's not going well.....I don't know what to do....

dinner - is lighter no or very very little carbs - lots of veggies and meat -  with 1 tsp of flax (soaked)

7am - tsp ghee

830ish - totally not hungry - meat 5-6 oz and veggies  --- this is the weird part~!!  I'm not hungry but I eat it anyway but this does not seem to hold me over~!  I'll still get hungry at 12ish....

so lunch is same + manna and/or s. potato and honey (for my carb fix)

and then sometimes I even need a snack around 3-4

should I keep going w/ the meat and veggies in the morning?

any wise guidance is appreciated (and v. much needed  )

thank youuuuuuuuu ^_^

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I eat meat and vegis in the am, snack around 10 (a few nuts), meat and vegi around 12-1, snack in mid afternoon (2 bananas or a mango or 2 plums), and fish with vegi at 5-6. I always eat 5-6 small meals and try to never get hungry because it is too hard for me to recover. I am very active, but this may work for you as well....it really takes some time to figure all of this out. I have to look at what my day will be like and try to eat accordingly. Many of these calm people have been at this for years, it will just take time for the rest of us who are still struggling a bit. We will get it too though!
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At a glance I can't see anything wrong with what you do!   What makes you think it is not working?

Why are you surprised to be hungry again 4.5-5 hrs after breakfast...that's how it works for me at any rate!  I have my breakfast before 6am normally and am hungry again by 11am so I'll eat a bit of fruit and have my lunch 1.5 hrs later...

Not really worried about your afternoon snack either - I am starving by about 5pm and have a few nuts and some fruit then because I don't normally get home for another few hours and don't get to eat my dinner until quite late in the evening...bad, bad me I know  

How big are your servings of veg?  You can have unlimited amounts of beneficial veg so I wouldn't worry about eating lots of them...still would not overindulge in the starchy varieties.  You can also have 5 portions of neutral veg a day...  

When do you eat your evening meal?  

Do you use olive oil/ghee with your veg - fat will keep you full for longer...

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Quoted from debi
I always eat 5-6 small meals and try to never get hungry because it is too hard for me to recover. I am very active, but this may work for you as well....it really takes some time to figure all of this out. I have to look at what my day will be like and try to eat accordingly. Many of these calm people have been at this for years, it will just take time for the rest of us who are still struggling a bit. We will get it too though!


Thank you Debi I know you're right - I read these posts by other O's...and I guess I just want my routine to be set and predicatable....I have to be more patient

I'm just not used to eating "food" in the mornings - and then after the ghee and flax - I'm good for a while....maybe I'll just eat a real breakfast around 10-ish...


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If your blood sugar is low in the mornings (meaning, unusually low, not just the normal low), you won't feel like eating and may actually feel nauseated.  It'll get better as you fix your pancreas (by following the BTD) if that's the problem.


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Quoted from namelessfemm

I'm just not used to eating "food" in the mornings - and then after the ghee and flax - I'm good for a while....maybe I'll just eat a real breakfast around 10-ish...


Definitely play with your routine a bit - if you feel better with a snack first thing and a proper breakfast later in the morning that's ok!  If you are hungry have some food - going without is a huge stressor.  How hungry you feel on any given day will depend on a number of things - how active you are, how well you are, how much stress you suffer etc...Trust your body to guide you!

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 I can't seem to get a schedule down just yet....I had a wee bit too much Rice cake (korean snack) on Mother's Day and boy did I feel the effects of it~!

I guess this is still good b/c I'm learning more specifically about my body....I feel like I need to detox....

Anyone know where I can find more info about an O detox that is compliant with ETD?

thanks all ^_^
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Quoted from namelessfemm
it's not going well.....I don't know what to do....

dinner - is lighter no or very very little carbs - lots of veggies and meat - with 1 tsp of flax (soaked)

7am - tsp ghee

830ish - totally not hungry - meat 5-6 oz and veggies --- this is the weird part~!! I'm not hungry but I eat it anyway but this does not seem to hold me over~! I'll still get hungry at 12ish....

so lunch is same + manna and/or s. potato and honey (for my carb fix)

and then sometimes I even need a snack around 3-4

should I keep going w/ the meat and veggies in the morning?

any wise guidance is appreciated (and v. much needed )

thank youuuuuuuuu ^_^



Hello Namelessfemm...this is so typical of O's. To figure that they should only eat at the meals and that they should be able to go for hours before their body needs any nourishment again. That will depend on what you ate. Remember, your body is like a furnace and needs to be fueled to keep it going. You are doing well. I do think you need to incorporate a few more veggies with your meals (especially to help that manna bread and sweet potato along) and by all means if you need a snack...have one. Don't let the acid in your stomach take over as for us it is not a good thing.

I used to try and just eat the three meals a day and would get into trouble with that. I keep compliant snacks in my purse, van and packsack that I travel with. One time I was talking with Kristin, on Skype, about how hungry I was before supper and that I was in a hurry to make it so I wouldn't get that 'I want to eat everything in sight' feelling. Her comment to me was 'What is it with you O's that you feel you can't have a snack to take the edge off.' 'Duh, I don't know'. Read Robin's (such a wonderful cook),Suzanne's, Mikeo's, Kate's and all the rest of the O bloggers for information on what's an O to do. Lots of good information. I would suggest you read the other bloggers too because alot of them have good things to say also.

Keep up with the snacks, but don't make them too big. Small bites with all food and chew slowly. That saliva needs to mix in with the food so the stomach is ready for it.

Are you drinking enough fluids, getting enough sleep and enough exercise (my favorite)?

Keep us posted.

Debra



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I am very new to this way of life, but I can tell you this.....your entire body is going thru a major change right now.   And the best thing I have found, is to eat when you are hungry, and real meat in the morning is WONDERFUL.  
I am not suggesting you stuff yourself on starches and rice cakes, but if your body says " FEED ME"  then find some good protien and lots of veggies all day long.  Your body is trying to play catch up right now, and is finally finding food to be completely useful..........instead of harmful and sickening.  
Contrary to the world's idea of little breakfast, little lunch, huge dinner.........you may need to eat 6 or 7 times a day right now.  There is nothing that says you can't eat 7 times a day if you are eating small portions of good protien and great veggies!!!
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Hello Namelessfemm...this is so typical of O's. To figure that they should only eat at the meals and that they should be able to go for hours before their body needs any nourishment again.


OMG~!!!!!!! Someone who understands meeeeeeeeeeeeee....Debra - thank you sooooooo much for your response here....

Quoted from debra
Remember, your body is like a furnace and needs to be fueled to keep it going.


Yes I will remember this~!

Quoted from debra
I do think you need to incorporate a few more veggies with your meals (especially to help that manna bread and sweet potato along)


Got it.....just to clarify my lunch is meat and veggies with the manna and sw. potato - but I will add more veggies

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and by all means if you need a snack...have one. Don't let the acid in your stomach take over as for us it is not a good thing.


Snacks? NO problem~!



Quoted from debra
.....I was in a hurry to make it so I wouldn't get that 'I want to eat everything in sight' feelling.


I thought I was the only ONE~!! I tried to explain to my husband so many times......this insatiable urge to EAT - if you're in my way - WATCH OUT~!!!

Quoted from debra
Read Robin's (such a wonderful cook),Suzanne's, Mikeo's, Kate's and all the rest of the O bloggers for information on what's an O to do. Lots of good information. I would suggest you read the other bloggers too because alot of them have good things to say also.


Haven't yet - Will do


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Keep up with the snacks, but don't make them too big.


Majority will have to be fruit - b/c the hand to mouth action will keep going until the bag is gone....oh and I'll make little bags of snacks....sigh - I feel like such a "food obsessor" but I know this will keep my mind and body happy


Quoted from debra
Small bites with all food and chew slowly. That saliva needs to mix in with the food so the stomach is ready for it.


Chew? what's that? OH - yes - I think I reallly have to eat w/ my non-dominant hand - being a nurse - running around and stuffing my mouth whenever I get a moment doesn't help either....will have to make a conscious effort on this one....

Quoted from debra
Are you drinking enough fluids, getting enough sleep and enough exercise (my favorite)?


Fluids - min 6 but most days 8

Sleep - no - why is getting to bed so difficult for O's

Exercise - usually do hardcore wt training and be sore for 3 days - gradually changing over to a Daily Cardio routine with 1 or 2 strength exercises...


Thank you so much Debra - u've pinpointed many specific things for me....will definitely continue to adjust and listen to my body - and .....um....try to take it easy and relax a bit challenging for an O sometimes....

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Your welcome anytime.

Anyhow, when do you do your exercise?  A good thing to start with in the morning is warm water and freshly squeezed lemon juice.  Great for getting rid of mucus and to help the stomach acid to get moving to get you ready for food.  On days that I don't have this I don't feel hungry till a little later.  I try to get my exercise in as early as possible so that the rest of the day flows right along.  Having something ready for afterwards works really well so I don't have to waste anytime preparing.  (Except for reheating...either in the toaster oven or the stove top...no microvaving for me.)

Sleep is soooo important for anyone.   A really good book to read is called 'Lights Out' by T.S. Wiley...especially for O's.  It has been mentioned many, many times on this board and it one of the ones that I own personally. (Need it for reminders every now and then).  And...you are a nurse...do you switch shifts alot...days/afternoons/nights?

Secretor test would be another good thing for you, but I see by your personal information you are in New York and unable to obtain one.  If you know someone in another state close to you send them the money for it, go visit and have them have DHL pick it up and voila...there you go.

Another good thing for sore muscles is Bromelain on an empty stomach...first thing in the morning and last thing before bed...both times away from food.   Works wonders.

If you can...try to eat more veggies and less grains.  I know...that is the hard one.  (Such comfort foods)  Took me a long time to get that out of my system, but am much happier for it.   Even the manna bread and rice I have to watch.  Millet and quinoa are not too bad, but then again the quantity is the key.


Keep us posted on your progress.  

Debra


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I'm really glad to read this post and all the responses, because I had been wondering what was wrong with me:  I get hungry all the time now!  

I have noticed I do much better if I eat red meat and veggies in the morning.  When I mentioned to someone having a breakfast of ground hamburger sauteed with spinach and onions, they gave me a really weird look.  No, that doesn't sound like "breakfast" to most people, but I'm sure there's a few type-O BTD'ers who will say, Yeah, that sounds about right!    

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I have noticed I do much better if I eat red meat and veggies in the morning.  When I mentioned to someone having a breakfast of ground hamburger sauteed with spinach and onions, they gave me a really weird look.  No, that doesn't sound like "breakfast" to most people, but I'm sure there's a few type-O BTD'ers who will say, Yeah, that sounds about right!    


I eat that breakfast with ground turkey breast instead of the beef! I get those same looks!


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I'm really glad to read this post and all the responses, because I had been wondering what was wrong with me: I get hungry all the time now!

I have noticed I do much better if I eat red meat and veggies in the morning. When I mentioned to someone having a breakfast of ground hamburger sauteed with spinach and onions, they gave me a really weird look. No, that doesn't sound like "breakfast" to most people, but I'm sure there's a few type-O BTD'ers who will say, Yeah, that sounds about right!  


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