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Itita
Sunday, April 22, 2007, 1:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hello Everyone!  

I've recently started following the diet (it's been almost 2 weeks).  As I don't know my secretor status I decided to be on the safe side and follow the guide lines for non-secretors.  

I've already seen some positive results: my skin looks better ( I suffer from Rosacea) and I've lost a bit of weight, which I really needed to.

My big, big problem though is bloating and gas.  I've been having it for a long time now (years) and don't seem to be able to pin point the foods creating the problems.  I was hoping that switching to this diet would help...

I've left out all "avoid" animal protein (as well as the other "avoids").  Being worried about not getting enough protein I decided to give legumes a go by choosing the beneficial ones for A groups.  I've also introduced tofu.  

It's terrible: I feel like a balloon and a gas factory most of the time and I'm now considering  eliminating legumes and tofu from my diet and going just for the allowed sources of animal proteins.

Could I be intolerant to legumes and soy products?  Or do I simply need to get used to them?  The portions of them that I eat are small, 2 or 3  tbsps at a time...

I would really appreciate any insights you could give me!

Thank you!!

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Hey Itita...welcome to the forum and the BTD way of life.  Glad to see you making changes for better health.

I, too, suffer from Rosacea.  A very good product to use is silicea powder.  Great stuff for skin, nails and hair.  You can get it at your local Health Food Store.  It comes in capsules, gel or powder.  The powder is great in shakes.

If you are following the non-secretor diet...watch the beans and tofu...mostly neutrals and as you say that may be where the gas is coming from.  I strongly suggest you get your secretor test done.    With the A diet there are about 25 foods (the most of all of the blood types) that change between secretor and nonnie.  Also...to get your subtype tested.  Whether you are A1 or A2 as things change there also.

Are you doing yoga or meditating...tai chi (marshall arts)?  Do you take walks?  Very good for letting out the gas.

Hope this has helped...keep us posted.

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Hey Debra, thanks for your advice!

I do quite a bit of walking and I'm planning to pick up my yoga again on a more regular basis.

I see what you mean about the secretor factor and tofu or soya products: I'm planning to have the test done asap.  

On the other hand I'm only having legumes which are rated as positive for both secretors and nonnies (lentils and pinto beans): that's why I'm so surprised about my reaction.

BTW, where can I find more info about the diet differences between A1 and A2?


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Hey Debra, thanks for your advice!

I do quite a bit of walking and I'm planning to pick up my yoga again on a more regular basis.

BTW, where can I find more info about the diet differences between A1 and A2?



This would be outlined in the food lists in Live Right for Type A.


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Understand, there is a much higher probability that you are a secretor than a nonnie.  Just because you have digestive problems, you should not assume that you are a nonnie.  Plenty of secretors have developed that problem.



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KK, Lola, thanks for pointing me in the right direction!!  I'm about to read the link that Lola sent me and I've already ordered the Live Right book which I hadn't read yet: can't wait to have it my hands!  
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KK, Lola, thanks for pointing me in the right direction!!  I'm about to read the link that Lola sent me and I've already ordered the Live Right book which I hadn't read yet: can't wait to have it my hands!  


You're welcome.  Please keep posting as many questions as you need.  We are all her to help you get on the right track to healing your health issues.


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Understand, there is a much higher probability that you are a secretor than a nonnie.  Just because you have digestive problems, you should not assume that you are a nonnie.  Plenty of secretors have developed that problem.



I want to be certain about my secretor status, so I'm not taking anything for granted and I'm going for the test.  Hopefully I'll have done it by the end of this week .  

At the moment, as I've had a few health problems which need tackling, I've been following the nonnies food avoids because it was my understanding that this approach would be more likely to help me sort them out.

Could anyone tell me whether my digestive problems are then something that will eventually get better by following the diet as strictly as possible or should I now try and avoid the neutral foods that seem to be creating the problem?

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My big, big problem though is bloating and gas.  I've been having it for a long time now (years) and don't seem to be able to pin point the foods creating the problems.  I was hoping that switching to this diet would help...

It's terrible: I feel like a balloon and a gas factory most of the time and I'm now considering  eliminating legumes and tofu from my diet and going just for the allowed sources of animal proteins.


Consider adding bromelain (pineapple enzymes).  I believe Dr. D states in ER4YT that adjusting to a veggie diet can cause some discomfort with bloating and gas.  This supp might help you while your body adjusts.  I also eat pineapple at least once a day.   I had bloating as well and the bromelain did help me.  Stomach is pretty flat now!   Good luck!  



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I want to be certain about my secretor status, so I'm not taking anything for granted and I'm going for the test.  Hopefully I'll have done it by the end of this week .  

At the moment, as I've had a few health problems which need tackling, I've been following the nonnies food avoids because it was my understanding that this approach would be more likely to help me sort them out.

Could anyone tell me whether my digestive problems are then something that will eventually get better by following the diet as strictly as possible or should I now try and avoid the neutral foods that seem to be creating the problem?

Thanks

As I believe someone mentioned before, there are over 25 foods on the Type A lists that change value from allowed to avoid.  So, I would look at all the foods you are eating, and compare them to typebase4 (if you don't have a copy of Live Right).   Until you get your secretor test, make sure everything you are eating is allowed by secretors and nonnies alike.  This way, regardless of whether they are bennies or neutrals, you are not eating anything that is an avoid by either subtype.  

Your digestive issues will resolve themselves given time.  It didn't take a few days for you to get like this.  It will take a bit of time before this resolves.

Once you know your secretor status, you will be able to follow the correct food plan for your type, concentrating your diet on beneficials.  This will be key to solving your health challenge.  In the interim, just do your best to eliminate all avoids.



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also leave out those foods causing you trouble for now....
as you heal, you can begin adding those again slowly......a food log has helped many, to detect the foods that do not agree with them.

sometimes those adverse reactions resolve, gradually.

it is all about individuality and designing your own lifestyle.


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Could anyone tell me whether my digestive problems are then something that will eventually get better by following the diet as strictly as possible or should I now try and avoid the neutral foods that seem to be creating the problem?
Thanks


Hi Itita,

Try eating some yogurt before you eat the beans.  Works for me to eliminate gas.  I also had indigestion a couple of years ago and now it's gone.  Ate a lot of pineapple and when I eat meat, I keep the portions small.

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Hello Everyone!  Thank you SO much for all your advice!  

Yesterday I didn't have any pulses or tofu at all, no avoids (for any type of secretor ) and my tommy's nice and flat this morning!

I'll certainly have a go at the bromelein and make sure I add pineapple to my shopping list: I love pineapple so it'll be a real treat having it.

Also thank you for the tip about eating yogurt before having the beans: next time I try beans I'll give it a try.

Speaking of yogurt: how's goat/sheep milk yogurt rated?  I know that goat milk is an avoid for nonnies, but goat cheese is neutral.  Same thing for cow's milk: when it comes to cow milk yogurt it's neutral. Any ideas?

Last, but not least, could anyone help me rate the drink CARO?  I enjoy a cup of it a few times a day, but if it's not a good idea having it I'll just substitute it with green tea or herb tea.

I'll keep you posted about how things are going.

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Hi Itita - Definitely give the bromelian a try.  I take a 500 mg capsule with every meal.

I also can get gassy from beans but some types affect me more than others.  Black beans make me a bit gassy so I try to steer clear of them.  I have the most luck with black eyed peas.  I stay away from canned beans (although I've heard if you rinse them well it "de-gasses" them).  Cooking from dried is a snap so that's what I do.  I usually have homemade hummus and raw veggies for lunch with fresh pineapple for dessert.

Also quinoa is a great protein as well as lentils.  I doubt whether either would make you blow up.  As you go along, you'll discover what works and doesn't work for you.  I think it's quite exciting to discover new healthy foods.  Good luck to you!  


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Thank you for that, Mitchie  

I'd forgotten about quinoa being a source of protein: of course, it's a seed!

Last week I had several servings of lentils during the week, as well as a few of tofu.  In fact I only had pinto beans twice, before I started having lentils.  Once I get the bromelain I'll carefully give lentils another try  

Yes, it's really exciting finding out good foods for yourself and feeling better when eating them as well as enjoying new tasty meals !!

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Itita -
I also can suffer from bloating & gas.  I've found that taking a pro-biotic before bed REALLY helps, as well as not taking any beverage during a meal (or at most, 1/2 cup of water or red wine).  It ensures that you chew, chew, chew your food well, which aids in digestion - and makes you slow down.


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Itita, the answer is the whey present in milk.

whey is the avoid.


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Lola - I'm a bit lost: do you mean that neither goat milk nor cow milk yogurts have got whey and therefore they are ok?

Olerica - sorry to hear that you also suffer from the problem occasionally, but it's great that you've got it under control.  What type of pro-biotic do you take?  Do you find that you have the problem more when you stray from the diet?


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Goat cheese is neutral for both sec and non sec because cheese is low in whey.
Milk is avoid because of the large amount of whey.  

Cow's milk is Tier one avoid and Goat's milk is Tier two neutral for sec and avoid for non sec.

Tier one is the best beneficials and the worst avoids.  Because of this, I would say that goat yogurt is the better choice, although cow yogurt is still acceptable if you can digest cow dairy.



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Thank you for that Victoria: I'll give goat milk yogurt a try!  

Sorry to bring this up again, but would anyone be able to tell me if Caro, a cereal drink I really like, would be OK for me to have?  And if not, what could I substitute it with?

Thanks!

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Welcome Itita,

NAP's Polylora A will assist you greatly with this adjustment period you are going through until your stomach and digesive tract starts to become acquainted with the new foods you are introducing to your system.  It will also assist with the bloating.

Drinking water/beverages away from meals will also be helpful by allowing your body to efficiently digest the contents of your food: a half hour before a meal or two hours after a meal:
http://www.dadamo.com/faq/smartfaq.cgi?answer=988814276&id=988813483

Alia




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