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Talitha
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My husband came across this website two days ago and thought it might be helpful. I read the FAQ and the tutorial that goes with the diet, and bought the book "Live Right 4 Your Type" yesterday. I've read the first few chapters, about the evolutionary whatsits. I know from when I donated blood last year my blood type is A+.

But where do I start? I get overwhelmed and anxious by stuff very easily, and there seems to be just so much information that I can't take it in. We had stirfried vegetables and turkey with brown rice and a glass of red wine for dinner, but is that a good thing or a bad thing when it comes to the A type diet? How does anyone start making sense of this stuff and find somewhere to begin? What do I do first?

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Quoted from Talitha
My husband came across this website two days ago and thought it might be helpful. I read the FAQ and the tutorial that goes with the diet, and bought the book "Live Right 4 Your Type" yesterday. I've read the first few chapters, about the evolutionary whatsits. I know from when I donated blood last year my blood type is A+.

But where do I start? I get overwhelmed and anxious by stuff very easily, and there seems to be just so much information that I can't take it in. We had stirfried vegetables and turkey with brown rice and a glass of red wine for dinner, but is that a good thing or a bad thing when it comes to the A type diet? How does anyone start making sense of this stuff and find somewhere to begin? What do I do first?


Welcome to the forum Talitha,

Are you or your husband dealilng with and serious health issues?  Are you having trouble just learing your beneficial foods?  

If you get overwhelmed easily, the best way to learn BTD is to start slow.  Don't try to acomplish everything at once.  

If you have health issues that you or your husband have been struggling with, then the place to start (imo) is to take the next step and get secretor status tested.  If you are in general good health, then you can, for the time being, assume you are with 85% of the population and are a secretor.

To help us remember our beneficial foods (and what to avoid), many of us either carry around the little pocket food lists, or, even better, take the time to make our own lists.  I've made my own lists where, the beneficials and neutrals are on one side of the paper, and the avoids are on the other side.  It helps when you are out shopping, and trying to remember what you can or can't buy, to be able to just consult your book or cheat sheet.

One thing for sure, you will find lots of support here.  There are quite a few knowledgable Type A's that post that will be more than willing to steer you in the right direction as far as the A diet goes.  You could also investigate the Cook Right 4 Your Type Forum for recipe and meal planning ideas.

Keep asking as many questions as you need.  We are all here to help each other succeed in this new way of eating and living.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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Try replacing one avoid that you are used to eating and replacing it with a beneficial that you aren't used to eating. Every few days just repeat the cycle. I would start with the 7 avoids listed on page 192 and knock them out one at a time. Also add some light exercise if you aren't active like walking or ideally yoga or tai chi. Latter you probably will want to take the secretor test for more refined results.
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Quoted from Talitha
My husband came across this website two days ago and thought it might be helpful. I read the FAQ and the tutorial that goes with the diet, and bought the book "Live Right 4 Your Type" yesterday. I've read the first few chapters, about the evolutionary whatsits. I know from when I donated blood last year my blood type is A+.

But where do I start? I get overwhelmed and anxious by stuff very easily, and there seems to be just so much information that I can't take it in. We had stirfried vegetables and turkey with brown rice and a glass of red wine for dinner, but is that a good thing or a bad thing when it comes to the A type diet? How does anyone start making sense of this stuff and find somewhere to begin? What do I do first?

Talitha, your first 'official' BTD meal sounds pretty good to me.
My approach when first starting out was to use up what I had in the cupboard, or give it away if it was particularly worrying, and from then on, only to buy beneficials and neutrals from my home made list. Your live right book will have most of the resources you need to quickly make your own list.As the years passed I bought various other books, and dealt with issues as they arose by consulting these and adjusting my shopping habits. But I am not painfully rigid, and if an Avoid comes my way (say in a meal cooked for me by an unknowing friend) I grin and bear it, knowing that the love and companionship is just as important as the food.This is actually why I prefer smorgadsboards to set meals as you can pick and choose so elegantly.
At the moment I am working on an issue of low haemoglobin, and to avoid taking an iron tablet I have gone back to basics, and found all the iron rich foods which now are a high proportion of my shopping list. Any and all health issues are not necessarily wiped out, but you have the tools to deal with many of them, and if my experience is widely shared, your general health and appearance will glow most satisfactorily.
Looking forward to your next report,
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Welcome to the forum Talitha,

Are you or your husband dealilng with and serious health issues?  Are you having trouble just learing your beneficial foods?  

If you get overwhelmed easily, the best way to learn BTD is to start slow.  Don't try to acomplish everything at once.  

If you have health issues that you or your husband have been struggling with, then the place to start (imo) is to take the next step and get secretor status tested.  If you are in general good health, then you can, for the time being, assume you are with 85% of the population and are a secretor.

To help us remember our beneficial foods (and what to avoid), many of us either carry around the little pocket food lists, or, even better, take the time to make our own lists.  I've made my own lists where, the beneficials and neutrals are on one side of the paper, and the avoids are on the other side.  It helps when you are out shopping, and trying to remember what you can or can't buy, to be able to just consult your book or cheat sheet.

One thing for sure, you will find lots of support here.  There are quite a few knowledgable Type A's that post that will be more than willing to steer you in the right direction as far as the A diet goes.  You could also investigate the Cook Right 4 Your Type Forum for recipe and meal planning ideas.

Keep asking as many questions as you need.  We are all here to help each other succeed in this new way of eating and living.


Thanks for replying so quickly. It's much appreciated!

I have fairly severe depression and anxiety, and my husband has gastroesophageal reflux disease. But we don't know what blood type he has, because he's scared of needles so doesn't donate blood. We both have a long history of yoyo dieting, and are both significantly overweight. Until we know what his real type is, he's going to join me on the A diet to make planning meals easier.

My knowledge of what the diet actually entails is pretty sketchy. I can understand that there's the lists of good, neutral and bad foods, but are there any rules as to when and how much of each type to have? I bought the little type A lists book and we took it round the supermarket in order to choose what to buy for dinner. I suppose in time it'll become easier once I get the book all but memorised, but for now there's just so much information!

What do you think would be a good first substitution to make? I am semi-addicted to sweet starchy foods such as bread and brownies, and my husband is heavily into ice cream and other dairy products. He hates even the thought of tofu or soy milk so that might be better left until later when he's feeling the benefits of other changes.
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Yogurt sweetened with vegetable glycerine or agave nectar(look in a health food store for these sweeteners) and berries and chopped walnuts make a fair substitute for ice cream. Yogurt is tolerated by more blood types especially if it is goat yogurt than most other dairy. Vegetable glycerine is also good for those with blood sugar issues as it tends to stabilize blood sugar versus sugar or especially corn syrup.

Don't forget to start to excercise but do it slowly. That will help some with depression.

Sooner or later your husband is going to have to man up and get tested though. The other blood types differ a lot from A and an A diet could make him worse. When they are drawing blood from me, I look away and continue a conversation about something or another.
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Jenny, would you share the iron rich food list for your type A, that you go by, pls?


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Talitha,
the LRFYT and ERFYT books have the frequency values for each group given

3 to 5 servings of fruit per week are recommended when really it is per DAY.  You can read what the specific "errata" are for all the books and what the corrections are HERE:
http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi?answer=1075208133
http://www.dadamo.com/errata/smartfaq.cgi


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Jenny, would you share the iron rich food list for your type A, that you go by, pls?

Very happy to do that Lola; should anyone interested  write to me giving their regular email address? The list takes two pages, so I am loathe to put it on the forum direct as it would take up so much room. Please tell me how to go about this.
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What do you think would be a good first substitution to make? I am semi-addicted to sweet starchy foods such as bread and brownies, and my husband is heavily into ice cream and other dairy products. He hates even the thought of tofu or soy milk so that might be better left until later when he's feeling the benefits of other changes.


Well, we all had to choose where to start! It's really up to you, and your capacity to do it. In the long run you will probably be  cutting out most straight dairy milk, except a couple of mild cheeses and yoghurt which have been created in a way that deals with the A problems, you may end up cutting out wheat flour pretty well all the way, and substituting with rye bread, soy/linseed bread etc. spelt bread and flour.
Also of course, red meat and potatoes and oranges and bananas. It all depends on what you use. You mention sweet cravings, very understandable. Sometimes I really crave a donut or chocolate, but I always end up feeling bloated, constipated or with pimples so generally common sense prevails. As mentioned above, yoghurt can be tarted up with chopped nuts, stewed or canned beneficial fruit, and sweetened with agave or veg.glyc. there is really no need for sugar any more since we have access to these great sweeteners.
Cheers, Jenny

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Why not purchase the home testing kit for your husband?

It uses a finger lancet, not a needle.  No different than if he accidentally cut his finger with a sharp knife.





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Re: KK's above post, the blood testing pokey-thing looks like a chapstick, and you can't even see the pointy part. You hold it end-on against a finger, and push on it a little, and BOINK it's all over, almost no pain & no needle sightings! Just follow the instructions very carefully so's not to waste the test. I had fun playing kitchen-table scientist with my sister-in-law, and she said it didn't hurt.
What we're trying to say is, it's gonna really make a huge difference him knowing what his blood type is, and then if you're not the same, you can have fun figuring out what foods overlap each others' bloodtype & making meals around them.
The info does seem overwhelming at first, but you absorb it. Get ready to become a Professional Label Reader! Get those reading glasses out. You'll be amazed at all the jars & boxes you'll be putting back on the store shelves after reading them.
Most of us have felt very noticeable differences in our health issues within a few days or weeks. One of the fun things is the un-looked-for, unexpected improvements that pop up like spring flowers.
After a lifetime of illness, I finally found the Blood Type Diet (Lifestyle, actually) and have become so much healthier I will never go back to the standard american diet (cheat here & there, yes, but never go back)


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Welcome Talitha.

You can view Typebase4 to check food values:
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

ER4YT or LR4YT are great foundational books; the latter is more of a wholistic approach to the BTD that incorporates this way of eating as a lifestyle approach:
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED001
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED003

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Try replacing one avoid that you are used to eating and replacing it with a beneficial that you aren't used to eating. Every few days just repeat the cycle. I would start with the 7 avoids listed on page 192 and knock them out one at a time. Also add some light exercise if you aren't active like walking or ideally yoga or tai chi. Latter you probably will want to take the secretor test for more refined results.



Hi Talitha - I agree with gulfcoastguy.  For me, the trick is all about substitution.  When I discovered oranges are avoids for A's and I was eating one every morning with breakfast, I substituted beneficial grapefruit.  The switch was easy and I didn't feel like something was being taken away but just changing a "bad" for a good.

I also had a "lightbulb" moment when I figured out that I shouldn't eat things that make me gassy.  That included all wheat and dairy, even those that are allowed for A's.

My goal is to try a new food each week and see how I like it.  This week I'll be giving collards a try.

Don't let yourself get overwhelmed, just take it at your own pace and you'll do great!


By the way, my husband (who is an O)  is also the ice cream junkie but he has been experimenting with Rice Dream ice cream and Haagen Daz Mango Sorbet.  Still not the perfect choices for him but better than the gallon of ice cream he was eating every week.


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Another hello Talitha - I did think of something very easy and for me at least, very beneficial that you could try.

Every morning I drink the juice from a fresh squeezed lemon mixed with about 10 ounces of water. I would suggest you maybe try 1/2 a lemon to start out with. This makes me feel quite energized and alert. I just bought one of the cheapy manual squeezers from Walmart for a couple bucks.

The lemon juice and water is very beneficial for us A's and it's not something that's difficult to work into your schedule. Use a real lemon though, not the junky stuff in the bottle.

One more point and then I'll stop yapping. As a fellow newbie (10 weeks?), occasionally there were a few days when I didn't feel that great. Maybe a headache, fatigue, itchy feet or even a few days when my right armpit smelled like a stink bomb. I understood these times to be my body detoxing from whatever and it was a good thing. They were all slightly annoying but passed in a couple days and made me that much healthier.

So if you go through brief times like that just keep in mind they should pass.


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Thanks so much to everyone.

Mitchie - does the lemon juice have to be freshly squeezed, or will bottled work as well?

I'm feeling a little proud of myself today. I overslept and didn't have time to make lunch before I had to leave for work. So I went into town on my lunch break to try and find something to eat. I didn't have the book with me, so I had to rely on my memory of the lists I read yesterday. I walked straight past the sandwiches and salads, and settled on a carton of soya milk, some parsnip crisps made with sunflower oil, and a pack of pineapple pieces. The soy milk has maltodextrin in it, but I think that's the only potentially dodgy one. And the amazing thing is I like it! I've never had soy milk before.
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Hi Talitha - Please use fresh squeezed lemon juice from a real lemon.  No bottled stuff.   I think you will like it.

Good job on your food choices!


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Thanks so much to everyone.

Mitchie - does the lemon juice have to be freshly squeezed, or will bottled work as well?

I'm feeling a little proud of myself today. I overslept and didn't have time to make lunch before I had to leave for work. So I went into town on my lunch break to try and find something to eat. I didn't have the book with me, so I had to rely on my memory of the lists I read yesterday. I walked straight past the sandwiches and salads, and settled on a carton of soya milk, some parsnip crisps made with sunflower oil, and a pack of pineapple pieces. The soy milk has maltodextrin in it, but I think that's the only potentially dodgy one. And the amazing thing is I like it! I've never had soy milk before.


It can be hard for some people to step outside their comfort zone, and try something new, so I say Congratulations on taking the plunge with a few new food items.

Bottled lemon juice has preservatives that are not good for you.

Most commercial soy milks have avoids ~ watch for avoid oils, sweetners and carrageenan.  Westsoy and Trader Joe's both make and unsweetened soy milk that is just soy beans and water.  You can sweeten it up yourself with some agave syrup or vegetable glycerine.

Please let us know how you are doing and feeling.  If you are having any problems or challenges, please post about them.  We are here to help you solve them.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.

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Good job, Talitha,
You won't be sorry you stepped onto this path, and I think you'll notice a difference in a lot of areas of your life if you give it a good chance.

Some people have good results by making a food list of avoids, neutrals and beneficials, and putting one copy on their refrigerator and another copy in their wallet.  That way you would not have to guess or strain your brain trying to remember.



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Talitha,

There are a couple of ways, in my opinion, to go about starting the diet. There are pros and cons to each.

First, there's the EXTREME COLD TURKEY method. Advantages: you will feel better in just a couple of days and know for sure it's working. Disadvantages: you will be hungry until you figure out what you can eat (not really all that bad, it just takes a few days to get used to eating certain foods).

Second, there's the GRADUAL method. Advantages: You simply substitute bad foods for good ones as you go along and learn more about it (this takes a little tenacity). No system shock. Disadvantages: you won't necessarily feel better quickly and may decide it doesn't work (I've had several friends try the gradual method and decide it wasn't worth it because it was "too much trouble and they didn't feel any different.")

I personally recommend the cold turkey method just so you know for sure that you feel better and it's really working, no matter how overwhealming it seems at first. Just a few days going cold turkey and your brain will clear up and you may see a lift in the depression.

I'm with Mitchie about wheat and dairy, and you may find the same is true with you----we can't tolerate ANY wheat or dairy, even though some of them are considered neutral. For me, all dairy means death (intestinally speaking). And wheat means depression. When I quit wheat (spelt is fine for me), long before I went on the BTD, my depression vanished and only returns when I eat wheat several days in a row.

As far as portion amounts go, I'd relax about that until you learn the menu restrictions. After a few months of getting the hang of it, if you still have a bunch of weight to lose, then you can restrict your amounts (you may find it falls off anyway, just following the food guidelines). But I'd worry about omitting bad foods before I'd worry about limiting the good stuff. One thing that helped me at first when I was feeling so overwhealmed (this is an A thing) at the seemingly irrational restrictions---I made sure I never ate avoids at all (truely, really, extremely cold turkey), and concentrated on the neutrals. Then when that became easy, I shifted again and concentrated on the beneficials.

We were all once where you are now!


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Talitha,

I would start next by ordering and taking the secretor test.  The full success of the diet depends upon your knowing it, as well as your blood type.

Here's the link for ordering it:  

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TE002

After this, I would buy the Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia, and just go through and highlight all the "beneficial" foods only, and then, in a different color, highlight all the "avoid" foods, and then change your diet to where you are only eating the beneficials and none of the avoids, for about a week or two at first until you get used to how much better you feel.

After that, I would then try eating some "avoid" foods again, just to see how awful you feel on them.  Then you'll slowly start accepting and incorporating the new diet into your new way of life.

Eventually, beyond even this, you will probably get into routinely using a stable group of health supplements from Dr. D's company, North American Pharmacal.

I have no doubt you'll benefit enormously from this whole thing.
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Talitha,

I would start next by ordering and taking the secretor test. The full success of the diet depends upon your knowing it, as well as your blood type.

Here's the link for ordering it:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=TE002

After this, I would buy the Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia, and just go through and highlight all the "beneficial" foods only, and then, in a different color, highlight all the "avoid" foods, and then change your diet to where you are only eating the beneficials and none of the avoids, for about a week or two at first until you get used to how much better you feel.

After that, I would then try eating some "avoid" foods again, just to see how awful you feel on them. Then you'll slowly start accepting and incorporating the new diet into your new way of life.

Eventually, beyond even this, you will probably get into routinely using a stable group of health supplements from Dr. D's company, North American Pharmacal.

I have no doubt you'll benefit enormously from this whole thing.

taking supplements is a very personal thing, and I am sure that many of us get excellent results with food adjustments alone.
Jenny

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I've ordered the secretor test, but the website says it might take a while because I'm in the UK.

I'd like to go cold turkey, but I don't know how practical that's going to be. My husband loathes soy milk (which is why I'd never tried it before) and think tofu is for pansies. From past experience with trying diets, going cold turkey is easy for the first week, but then he starts getting miserable and moody because he wants all the things he suddenly can't have. Perhaps it's better to go slowly, so we can get used to it a little more gently.

I've since thrown away the carton the soy milk came in so I can't remember precisely what was in it. I think the ingredients list started with soy, water, sunflower oil (A-neutral) and maltodextrin (neutral for A-secretor and avoid for A-non-secretor). So assuming I'm a secretor, the one I bought yesterday should be ok.

Dinner tonight is going to be from a mexican take-away because we're friends with the owner. I'm thinking a chicken burrito should be ok as long as I skip the cheese and the tomato-based salsa? (tortilla, rice, chicken, salad, guacamole)
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If your husband is a type B, for example, many of the foods you are eating could be very bad for his health.  Tofu and all soy products give me severe acidic stomach and blocked sinuses.  Wheat makes me terribly depressed.

I agree about getting the finger prick test for him.  I also hate needles, and try to avoid blood draws.  But this is a device that just sticks the finger without even having to poke yourself.  It's spring loaded.



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