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What's this about so many veggies being Os? It seems that when I meet a vegetarian, I find out they are an O. Then when I say they are the type who can eat the most red meat, they feel defensive or rebellious. Some years ago a talk show host commented about vegetarians being mean spitited & was making fun of them. Of course I don't agree with making fun of them & think they at least are trying to improve their health or they have some ethical reason for being a veggie, which I respect. I used to think the mean spirited part came from the dairy that they consumed as I still agree that it can affect behavior which I have seen many times! Even my AB husband gets testy if he eats too much. Maybe Os are looking for adventure, truth, & excitement & are willing to try vegetarinaism. At first, they probably feel better, as getting rid of junk cleanses the system. I even think being a vegan for a short time can be a good thing if you have had years of eating junk. But as an O, meat must be eventually introduced back into the diet. I have met As who just don't like a lot of meat. But then I have met As who just love it. Does anyone have any statistics or experiences with O veggies? How can we convince them that red meat is actually healthier than yogurt for them? Does this thread belong here or is it for the most popular "Little Fishes" area? Thanx for such a wonderful board. This is just the best!!!!!! Sea Salt & Light, Mrs "T" O+ [Os Rule!]
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How can we convince them that red meat is actually healthier than yogurt for them?
Why do you want to convince them? The trouble with convincing people is that you have to get them to see that their point of view is wrong. And then they still have to act on that realisation...And in the case of vegetarians you often have to overcame moral objections, too.
It is natural to get defensive if you are told you are wrong...which is what you are doing when you tell a veggie that they should be going for the steak and not the tofu burger. Even if they are sick and understand this is caused by their diet they may still not act on this.
People only see the light unless they are good and ready. If you find somebody who is a
a/ dissatisfied with the way their current regime makes them feel
and
b/ they do not value their morals over their health
If their values prevent them from eating meat they might still be willing to embrace the other type guidelines, stay away from major avoids and select the most appropriate non meat protein sources. There are vegetarian Os on the board who do just that.
Plus A's are not necessarily strict vegetarians, they can eat some meat. I went mostly vegetarian for a long time and I ended up being extreamly iron anemic. Also you should realize that some of the A's you talked to that liked meat may have been raised to like meat by their culture and some of those A's like meat are nonnies who can eat more meat then secretors. And there are always personal preferences too. I also agree with the previous oppinions above. You just cant convince someone to do something unless they are ready and willing and usually they want to her it from a professional not a friend.
Concealed Carry Gatherer! SWAMI Explorer Blend Kyosha Nim
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If you read my post carefully, you saw that I respect the ethics of others. If someone has a religion that forbids meat, I'm not going to argue that meat is for them. But I am also saddened by Os that eat tons of dairy & think it's OK. Of course there are O compliant diets that are veggie. I don't know how good it is over the very long term, but I respect that, too. (Also, I consider fish to be meat, so one can eat cod & salmon & avoid red meat & be healthy, etc.) I'm not here to argue; I just notice that so many vegetarians are Os & think that's interesting. Cheers! Mrs "T" O+
Interested in nutrition, lactation, religion, politics; love to be around people; talkative, sensitive, goofy; a "fishy Christian" ><>; left-handed; lived on a farm, small town & big city; love BTD/GTD; A staunch La Leche League veteran; b. 10/1947 Check BTD/GTD on facebook!
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=lr4yt,m=1125103517,s=0 supplementing is key for an O vegetarian........ zinc and taurine....... Coleus forskohlii increases cyclic AMP (adenosine mono phosphate) Forskohlii assists the digestive shock and reputed to boost energy metabolism in vegetarians who have blood types which require animal protein for optimal health it has the same effects on cellular metabolism as red meat does for O's.
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thanks for the link, Lola, to Mikeo's last blog.....what a guy!
Mrs. Rogers ...it is curious, isn't it? I know I was one for 27 yr.! Go figure! And we are stubborn, we O's! As I have mentioned before, carbs can be like a drug to O's, so we think ooooh, this is gooood for meeee..... now I still have an ethical problem with eating meat...but I just need to do it for my health. My granddaughter said the other day, as we were preparing a chicken for roasting,"isn't it sad that we kill animals to eat them?" (and she loves meat)....and I said "Yes, it is sad. We need to eat meat, and we love it, but its still sad." and she agreed.