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hmm...I think you might be better served with linseedoil.... has same effects but doesnt' has the bloodthinning effect for O' sechis |
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Flaxseed oil = linseed oil |
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Sunflower oil, coconut oil, and evening primrose oil are all avoids for O secretors, so no, this is not the best choice for you.
Research what foods have omega 6 oils in them to assess whether your diet is lacking. If so, choose oils or nuts with omega 6 and add these to your diet. |
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| ISA-MANUELA |
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Whimsi-dearle  ...in my encyclop. it is marked that even.primrose oil is ok for all women for hormonal balancement .....so it is meant also for O'women, equal if sechi or nonnie  I guess and one of the inestimable worthful peg 2 fighters....against all kinds of inflamations  |
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BTW the majority of the western world get far more omega 6 than needed... most people have a very bad omega 6 omega 3 balance. |
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Whimsi-dearle  ...in my encyclop. it is marked that even.primrose oil is ok for all women for hormonal balancement
Right you are, but it is listed in Typebase as an avoid for all Os, so I'm not sure what to think. My personal experience with it has not been good. |
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Quote from Flora website:
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...certified organic Flax, Sesame, Sunflower, and Evening Primrose seeds as well as oils from Rice and Oat germ,...added non-GMO Soy Lecithin...
I like Udo Erasmus' books and ideas, as well as the Flora company - but not this particular product. Certain Blood-Types and Secretor Statuses do better with the seed powder or sprouts, rather than the oil itself. |
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Completely agree with you here Shluggell |
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Evening primrose oil is only a type O Tier 2 avoid.
About evening primrose oil: the description lists it as a blood thinner and blood vessel dilator. That is the basis for the original "avoid for Os" status. If your girls have no heavy bleeding or broken capillary problems, then I'd say EPO is fine for them as part of their "female balancing" protocol -- but let them be aware of those potential effects of EPO on Os.
Evening primrose oil has been found to be OK for all types, and is listed as such in the BTD Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia under the "female balancing" protocols. The earlier caution about it has proven unnecessary, so go ahead with it if it works for you!
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In Typebase 4 the reason listed for the avoid status is "Enhances effect of other food toxins", not blood thinning. I'm just unclear what is the best info at this point - Type base 4 is newer, but there are several sources saying that it is good for Female Balancing.
It was due to this confusion that I used it anyway when it was recommended to me, but it had detrimental effects on my cycle, so my clinician and I decided to stop using it. |
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BTW the majority of the western world get far more omega 6 than needed...most people have a very bad omega 6 omega 3 balance.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Most of the western world needs to supplement or eat more Omega 3's.  |
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I'd say just based on my own experience as an O secretor, go for the omega 3s and don't worry too much about omega 6. You should get plenty of the latter in the meat you're eating. Not sure about omega 9, but I believe it is also present in flaxseed oil. You might also try a modest amount of fish oil caps taken once or twice a week. |
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To mime oil intake with season swings evening primrose oil(EPO) suits SPRING; extra virgin olive oil and almond oils + omega-3 flax and chia seed, and walnut oils for alfa linolenic acid .... SUMMER; all omega-3 as flax /chia + fish/seal oil .... AUTUMN; all omega-3 fish/seal oils + (if very cold) cod liver oil ... WINTER. This is only for the northern hemisphere ... omega-3's are for the cold. EPO mimes the oil in human breast milk with GLA.
Of note: ghee is likely best in spring-summer-fall to support microbe flora. coconut oils are likely best in tropical locals hemp oil is likely the ideal summer-fall oil for temperate-zone dwellers
for nonnies it is likely best to intake all oils in their 'complexed' form - as food or with lecithin
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Evening primrose oil (EPO), contain gamma linolenic acid (GLA), a fatty acid that the body converts to a hormone-like substance called prostaglandin E1 (PGE1). PGE1 has anti-inflammatory properties and may also act as a blood thinner and blood vessel dilator. In type A and Ab's this is a functional supplement but in O's it's problematic due to the risk of hemorrhagic strokes.
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Omega 9 is highly present in olive oil. |
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FIsh oil caps give me indigestion. I'll stick with my meat and Flax seed oil!  |
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