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accidental_chef
Thursday, March 22, 2007, 12:07pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I think either the beans & nuts are making me gain weight or it could be Maca. I really dont know.  .
My source of protein is Rice Protein powder 3 times a day, 2 eggs in the morning, black eyed beans & adzuki beans (alternate days) 1/2 a cup cooked for tea break in the evening, 1 teaspoon each of roasted almonds and pumpkin seeds with fresh salad and about a table spoon and a half of walnuts with dried kelp. I also take chlorella capsules. I'm exercising regularly, cardio 1 hr, weights 45 minutes...but I feel heavier these days .
I get enough sleep, well 6hrs is sufficient for me, 8hrs makes me sluggish. And I've switched to drinking L-S-W through out the day.

What could be the reason?


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I'm interested in your thoughts on the beans and nuts.... I was a vegetarian for about 20 years before I switched over to the BTD... for the first few years on the BTD, I  followed the meat part of it most of the time.. but as time goes on I am drawn back to the vegetarian life.. compliant with the BTD, of course.. but as I have done this.. substituting in almonds , walnuts and pumpkin seeds... I have noticed about a two to three   pound gain which I just can't shake.. I'm at a very  normal to low weight   for me, so I'm not concerned.. but I just don't want to let it creep up..I don't want to let something get out of control and wonder all of a sudden what to do about 10 or more pounds... never!

common sense says that the nuts have  much more fat in them, so I suppose that's it...I exercise   a ton with running and tennis... and yard work ( this isn't light gardening!).. so I have a pretty big appetite... guess I'm just too heavy handed on those nuts and olive oil in my salads...  but it seems to me that I shouldn't gain weight since I'm NOT TOUCHING any grains, wheat products, potatoes, rice.. etc...  how can  nuts really make me gain when it's really just nuts, salads, olive oil, fruits and veggies in my diet?  I DO eat large salads, though!!!..  so give me your thoughts!!
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I know I┤m a B┤.... but
When I was vegetarian - I actually ate more calories than I do now.... and less protein ... so I got hungrier faster = ate more -  it was low fat.... but during a day I got more "gasolin" into my body - than I burned off...


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limit beans to once a week and a handful of nuts every other day...strictly beneficial in each category


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Sheri, I've wondered about that too.  I might be totally wrong, and I'm sure the nice people here will let me know if that's the case...  but in my experience it seems like the good fats actually make you lose fat.  For example, every time I do the olive oil liver flush, I lose a LOT of body fat.  And that's after 24 hrs of digesting nothing but oil.  It usually takes me a week or so before the body fat starts to build up again.  But if I eat almonds or other nuts, they seem to sit inside of me and just churn around, causing problems.  I've been lead to believe that nuts aren't good for the liver, which is why they cause weight gain.  Since the liver is our metabolizer and controls all of that stuff, eating something that makes it sluggish would presumably have that effect.   Any takers?


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Quoted from erictm998
Sheri, I've wondered about that too.  I might be totally wrong, and I'm sure the nice people here will let me know if that's the case...  but in my experience it seems like the good fats actually make you lose fat.  For example, every time I do the olive oil liver flush, I lose a LOT of body fat.  And that's after 24 hrs of digesting nothing but oil.  It usually takes me a week or so before the body fat starts to build up again.  But if I eat almonds or other nuts, they seem to sit inside of me and just churn around, causing problems.  I've been lead to believe that nuts aren't good for the liver, which is why they cause weight gain.  Since the liver is our metabolizer and controls all of that stuff, eating something that makes it sluggish would presumably have that effect.   Any takers?



U can always grind or soak them beforehand  


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sheri, I wish that I could be more veggie too, as I used to be, but I believe meat has a way of revving metabolism....
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I think the point of Nuts being good for you is when they are raw. Raw nuts (ideally soaked befor eating) are a wonderful  food; Roasting them changes all that. I'm sure someone else could be more specific about the changes.
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Sheri,
I also eat no grains or legumes.....
however, nuts, which I love, can pack on pounds......no doubt about it!

whenever I want to loose the 4 extra pounds that crept up, I stop having my handful of nuts at night.

it works!


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well...your diet looks good. teaspoons and cups dont seem overboard looks good there. you are exercising too so i can only think it has to do with how you sleep... how long have you been sleeping for 6 hours? is it really 6 hours consistently or does it go down to 5 hours sometimes and up to7 hours sometimes. why do you think that extra 2 hours makes you sluggish? i should note i usualy sleep for about 9-10 hours every day so obviously 6 hours for me is way too little but i dont know.
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Balancing the diet is important.
I've been vegetarian for 20 years with no dramatic shift in weight either way that was caused by diet.

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Perhaps pay attention to the portion/frequency guidelines in the 'bean and legume' and 'nut and seed' category.  Although these items are a good source of protein, overdoing them may become problematic.

They are small, powerhouse nutrientious food items that condense alot of calories and fat in a small serving, a handful, or a tablespoon.

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just read following in Cardio book - page 75:

"Limit you intake of beans, as they are not a particulate good protein source for type O┤s. Some contains reactive lectins than can impair metacolic activity"
I now it is a pain in the... since you are ovo vegetarian....


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Thanks for all your comments, Sheri et al!

I feel that animal proteins are truly what revs up the O's metabolic system, and any other alternative has a lesser effect.

If I was a snacker and ate small portions of nuts & beans thro out the day, then yes, I should be piling on the weight. But I dont snack. As Ben Lamers noted, my portions are in teaspoons and that too in the earlier part of the day. Only the cooked beans are eaten around 4pm. It could be my individuality that even those portions are as what erictm998 says "sits inside and churns around...ending up in the liver". I'm going to cut off nuts and beans for a week and see what happens-just like I did with soy. There was a time when I used to get bloated & chunky with soy and apples...and I cant remember who it was (it was an A though), suggested that I give them up for a while and voila! it worked!

Wulf, I've read many of your old posts and am encouraged to carry on with my veg diet. I'm waiting to lay hands on Coleus Forskohli which I hope will solve my problem of depending on second grade proteins to rev my metabolism. Right now I take L-Tyrosine, dried kelp, chlorella etc to keep my metabolic rate going.

Ben, I've always had 6 hours of asleep from a very young age. When I sleep 8 hrs I wake up with a 'sleep hangover'. Whereas with 6hrs, there's an edge, like alertness. I must admit that these past few months the 6hrs are not actually non-stop deep sleep. But no, it doesnt fluctuate. It's 6 hrs always.

Another idiosyncrasy I noticed is that when I eat eggs in the later part of the day I get prickly heat like bumps on my forehead and chin area. But having eggs in the morning doesnt do that. No, they are not from corn fed hens. Does anyone experience this with eggs?  There was a time when I was eating 6 eggs a day (no beans but same quantity of nuts)and I had to cut back coz of the eruptions on my face. So it's down to 2 now.

erictm998, you mentioned liver cleansing with olive oil. Could you please tell me how exactly you went about doing it..and for how long...and how often do you do it? I've been contemplating liver cleanse ever since my return from my various travels. I feel that there's a lot of muck in my system...

Trying really hard to find the right kind of balance...Really appreciate everyone's views, thanks all and please keep the posts coming...


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Well, although it's not taken as seriously as I think it should be for ppl with digestive problems, the liver cleanse was the best thing I discovered next to the BTD.  I couldn't have gotten where I am without it, even at 100% compliance, just because there's no way to get those thousands and thousands of gallstones out by changing diet.  I've done 15 in the past 6 or 7 months, but now that I'm a lot better I'm going to space it out more until there aren't any more.  Needless to say, I would definately recommend it, there's a sticky about the liver cleanse, just browse through there.  (the pic is my 11th cleanse, and my record size stones.  some ppl are still skeptical, so I thought I'd post a little evidence)




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