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ISA-MANUELA
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and found out that he recommend warmly to eat coconutoil

hmmm if I remember well, we are the only one who may have coconut as a fruit,,,
what happens when we all'd eat such an oil I remember well that Peter wrote once about it, and I think he wrote it's clocking arteries, no


I think this doc. M. looks a bit cranky ...doesn't he ....? He looks a bit preaged and
tja...what shall I say  a bit of profilingnewrotic too  ok that's only my opinion....

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Isa - Mercola is a 1 type diet for all guy...
some of his stuff is fine or Ok- I get his newsletter and I read them critical
- just always use BTD first....
that is my feeling.

concerning coconot oil- well the whole saturated fat question is a mixed bag of info.... for some bad news for others tralala  
I know for sure that I don´t worry about saturated fat from yoghurt... like lots of B´s I do better with the wholefat version...
I´m a MUCH nicer person when I get it !!!

Coconut oil is  for the O nonnies - but for the rest of us NOOOO


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Hey roostersis...I agree along with Henriette that Mercola is a 1 type diet kinda guy.  I get his newsletter also and take some of his advice with a grain of salt.  Remember, he is not BTD.   Coconut Oil is neutral for O nonnies...(I don't use it...it's just a neutral...would rather use some of the bennie stuff )...coconut meat and milk are only neutral for A's.  

He does have some good information alot of the times.  

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so do you think this are préjudgements of my part .........

I go for the newsletter of *Michael Murray* feel better here
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No...I don't think you have prejudgements...you just have to go with that gut feeling and with what you know.  Be you...  if it doesn't feel right...ask.  Like it is said above...some of his stuff is good and some is one size fits all.  You feel better reading Michael Murray...so be it.   As Henriette says...BTD first.   And there again...it is all about the individual.

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I, too, get Dr. Mercola's newsletters and have for years. I want to a make a small correction. While he appears to advocate one type of diet for all, the metabolic type diet, it actually isn't as it is broken down into different diets based on your metabolism. He even says, and I quote:

"Many of the world's leading dietary experts adopted one-size-fits-all dietary solutions that they believe can be universally applied. While there are indeed certain universal truths, such as the danger of sugar and toxins, if one adopts this principle, my experience has taught me that a one-size-fits-all approach doesn't work.

Fact: One person's food may be someone else's poison.

Many diets will reverse one condition in one person but have no effect, or even worsen the condition, in another person due to differences in metabolic biochemistry. Just as we all differ tremendously with respect to our outward physical appearance, we are also unique on an internal (biochemical and physiological) level -- we all process foods and utilize nutrients differently. When you adopt a diet based on your specific "metabolic type," you will resolve most health disorders and achieve optimum health."

This is probably as close to the BTD as it gets and hopefully one day, he will see the value in it. He is on the right track but not quite there yet. I also believe he has a lot of valuable information about a lot of things apart from diet. Obviously I dont follow his diet plan (never have), but it is still far better than most diets out there for those who have not discovered BTD.

Just my two cents.


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I agree with what you are saying, but Mercola will never advocate BTD until Dadamo pays him to.  The problem with Mercola is he has completely sold out, so yes, he does have some good things to say, but that imo is just luck, he doesn't know right from wrong, just how to cash a check



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The 'old' Mercola (say about ten years ago) was a rather nice guy.  


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and now....as *the new-one* .......

hmmm can't help.....you have better articles Peter ....and mooore interesting...than the typical
laberings from others ....hey btw...I wish you all the best for your event in May
and please give my kindest regards to our opmann called  G. Uhlenbruck



                                     

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Many years ago, I used to read Mercola's blogs and newsletters with great interest.  At some point, he seemed to change and his site began to feel like more of a Tabloid.  He does not research.

It's better than the typical SAD diet for sure, but I've kind of lost interest in him.



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So...he is another one like Kevin Trudeau?

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I agree with what you are saying, but Mercola will never advocate BTD until Dadamo pays him to.  The problem with Mercola is he has completely sold out, so yes, he does have some good things to say, but that imo is just luck, he doesn't know right from wrong, just how to cash a check


Yes, even to me he has lost some credibilty because of all the sales pitch on the various products he has. He wouldn't be Dr. Mercola if all the sudden he started advocating the BTD diet, since he would quickly lose his marketing niche. However, I still subscribe because there ARE some things I learn from him that no regular doctor could ever inform me on.


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when I was a rich man...didledadledidledadledummm............


:? yech all into the same potty .....


he-he-heee I was more than persuated that he couldn't reach our maischdda
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résumé : Merola is one of the * boringest of all* because everybody knows what he tries to explain in
a funny form of selfishness sigh... good that one can't understand all that he says he slurs
but even better here are the reports of Bill Sardi ......

it is horror to me to know how many of those peoples are just giving out *malinformations* to peoples.....just a bit of hoghwashings and mostly you can hear a voice...Hey do you remember this person talked about and now it has to be likewise this is also a forming of our subconscience by
everyday inputs
best of best...go an take the time for verifyings this is called *second opinion*
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Attention: to all chocolate lovers !!  

More of Dr. Mercola's comments ... taken with a grain of salt, of course !!

http://www.mercola.com/2007/ma.....-than-penicillin.htm

Cheers


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no claims about *white chocs* ....so no problems ......
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Mercola’s response
I thought some of you might be interested in the answer I received from Dr. Mercola on the question (below) I asked him a while back.

Question:      I would like to hear what your view on the blood type diet is and how it differs from metabolic typing.    
     
Answer:      “I receive this question quite a bid so would like to provide a comprehensive answer that can be regularly referenced. I do believe that Dr. D'damo was an innovative pioneer for helping bring to greater public attention that there is no perfect diet for everyone. The title of his book, Eat Right for Your Type, was also pure genius. It is important to understand that after listening to a lecture Dr. D'damo gave prior to the publication of his book I really thought he was correct and adopted his program 100%.  So I have had quite a bit of experience with his program both personally and professionally. We also shared the same book agent and publisher for each of our first books, both of which were best sellers. However, when I tried his program it was an unmitigated disaster and I actually developed type 2 diabetes from following his deluded concepts.  Part of the reason for his success is that the majority of the public will actually get great results but this is NOT related to his theory only the fact that he advocated the most common blood type, O, avoid all grains. This is great for most people anyway so when people follow it they improve and believe it was due to his theory. Unfortunately I am a blood type A and a strong protein Metabolic Type.  A protein type following his recommendations will die prematurely. Part of this is related to the fact that he discourages type As from vigorous exercise. After I switched to walking and adding grains to my diet as he suggested by fasting blood sugar climbed into diabetic range. So I got the clue and stopped it and discontinued using it in my practice and I discourage all to NOT follow his program.  The proper approach to understanding what foods you need to eat has very little to do with lectins and your blood type but has everything to do with your metabolic type.”

This was displayed on his QA webpage http://v.mercola.com/QA/QAHome.aspx for a day, but the next day when I check if there were any comments it was gone not even the search could find it.
This was no trap just want to understand the difference between the BTD and metabolic typing, which I still don’t. Maybe the same thing after all.
Anyhow his response helped me decide to go to IfHI 2007. Any other South Africans going? Please let me know.

Last thought
Could the genotype diet shed some more light? Wonder what surprise Dr. D has installed for us?

See you at IfHI 2007
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I seriously doubt if Dr. Mercola was tested for secretor status or for the subtle subtypings that are so important for type A's.  In that blood type, there is the greatest variety of diet changes, ranging from much more protein/less grain to lower protein/more grains.



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Isa - Mercola is a 1 type diet for all guy...


This is not correct.  He talks about the metabolic type diet which is three types.  So blood type diet is four types one more.


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The 'old' Mercola (say about ten years ago) was a rather nice guy.  


He was a nice guy because he followed the blood type diet until he got diabetes.
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[quote=Henriette_Bsec]Isa - Mercola is a 1 type diet for all guy...


This is not correct.  He talks about the metabolic type diet which is three types.  So blood type diet is four types one more.



True... BUT reading Johans post just make me think that he still havn´t got it right......



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seems in his text about metabolic typing...that he's more than anxious to fail in not getting all his *rubelchen* needed    omG...what a coinseaker

go on google and there all is free and in more than one different variants  
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Quoted from Dr. D - Metabolic Typing
The BTD is different from the metabolic typing system(s). Probably the most simple reason being that nobody has every demonstrated that the metabolic types actually exist.

With the BTD, you have very distinct categories, well recognized scientifically, that can be tested, and those results can be consider to be consistent across the board. In other words, if you are a type AB in one doctor's office, you will be a type AB in another. Because of the high degree of reproducibility, when we learn something about AB (and it is statistically significant) that fact is applicable to just about all ABs (exempting additional refinements, such as secretor, etc.).

With BTD you build from a sound patho-physiologic foundation.

Now, most metabolic typing uses rules of thumb. like questionaires.  The categorizations have never been scientifically demonstrated (there are no references on MEDLINE to something called a 'slow oxidizer' for example) and there has never been any genetic associations to any of these metabolic types. In other words, for something supposedly so  important a metabolic distinction, there should have been a determination of what particular gene determines metabolic type. And it should be a BIG gene, which would have, in the 100-year history of genetics, been very hard to miss.

There is no such gene.

If there is no gene, there can be no transmittance, thus, what a lot of people call 'metabolic types' are not polymorphisms at all, but descriptions of versions of particular types of hypoglycemia, irritable bowel syndrome, thyroid disease, etc. Now for example, lots of people may have type I diabetes or type II diabetes, but being one or the other is not determined by having a DMI gene versus a DMII gene, it is just particular pathology chute you happened to have fallen into.

Although a lot of the 'metabolic typers' like to take pot shots at the BTD, in reality they do it because the BTD is the '800 pound gorilla' in nutrigenomics, with millions of copies of books out there, so it is easy to use it to get someone interested in metabolic typing by linking to it, then dissing it with something supposedly better.

However not a single proponent has even volunteered to show me the genetic rationale behind the 'metabolic' types (i.e locus on  a particular chromosome).

No doubt because there isn't any.

Probably the best indictment of the lack of credibility of most of metabolic typing is that if you read the books that start out telling you how much greater metabolic typing is versus BTD, by the end they usually wind up telling you that if your 'metabolic typing' program is not working, you may want to get yourself blood typed!


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some interessants infos about this thema :

http://www.precon.ch
http://www.mty.ch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_typing
http://www.biamed.ch
http://www.healthexcel.com/


here comes the best have an eye into this and please tell me if you recognize something in here

http://www.metabolictypingdiet.com/index 2.html


btw::::
a super great statement from our doc....about metabolic typing

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just saw a report from this guy and here he copes indirectly with Peter's father's *input*
one man's food is someone else poison*  of course he transfered it into his own laberings and then he gave the advice: " to eat adequat to someones metabolic type.....because it could go into a wrong way genetically " woohoooo so he shows up that he relates onto the BTD....he-he-heeee

and what I felt in observing this type, I guess he's an ENTJ and that he might have has one a form of
diabetes juvenilis, yesss that's the type for...but never ever from BTD and I think he's an A nonnie.....
I do a bet for it .....

ok...now I unsuscribed his *oldletters*  
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He was a nice guy because he followed the blood type diet until he got diabetes.


Are you saying that following the blood type diet gave him diabetes?



Since as far as I know the only thing he ever followed about the BTD diet were the lectin avoids.


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ahem.....hi doc .D..gd'.mooornig you are that early....... wavies

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Are you saying that following the blood type diet gave him diabetes?



Since as far as I know the only thing he ever followed about the BTD diet were the lectin avoids.

The point about diabetes apparently came from Dr. Mercola in a response he wrote. See this post: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=GC,v=display,m=1174557949,#num17


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Thanks MoDon for the quote from Dr. D about Metabolic Typing and for Tomatilla's links. This really help me to a better understanding.  

Like I said his response (where he referred to the diabetes) to my question was removed from the webpage, but I received a copy via e-mail also.
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about metabolic typing...hmm we do have a doc around my village, he does darkfield..bla-bla-bla's and sorry I think merely all those forms are very equal to me as psychologists tried to establish a *typing system* to their clients...similar to Riso's enneagram, which is based onto the whole sacré work of C.G.Jung, C'G.Jung himself = dito, Reich,- Adler, Galen etc....

here we have found a new *enemy-projectional pic* and are able to go against whatosever... and of course, to get fixed a problem.....means one is appleshaped or like a poire  similar also to the types likewise ectomorph,endomorph and omG...did forgot it  

I think that every lifeperiode has its own issues and rules, as our doc wrote in the menopausal book,we
the women are in need of different stuffs than when being younger or also older...a form of transition too

and I don't think that the syndrome x is that different...almost too much of carbs (because we have been recommended in one diet for all )  and then people are getting lazier and lazier...not much of  walking or physical activities.....
and of course, to be à la moda.... ......younger ladies get superthinny morphologicamente and this
is the beginning of a generation which will be quicker seeming old than we have been I observe this in lots of younger woman and girlies......it's just awful to recognize.....those lacks are irreparable
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has anyone seen the movie -Amadeus-?

Mercola reminds me of Salieri!!

a vicious backstabber!
Quoted Text
Salieri bitterly resented Mozart's musical superiority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Salieri

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It is a shame that he has that attitude regarding the BTD since he has such a large following that read his posts.


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Sounds like he didn't give the BTD a fair chance.  I didn't notice much change. either at first, but since I think I'm a nonnie & adapted the diet, I see the difference.
There is a lot of variation in type A. Also, As shouldn't eat too many grains, either.
Maybe he should have increased beneficial fish, turkey, etc.
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‘an idiot on stilts’ --a phrase that I have taken to mean any individual who finds themselves elevated by arrogance or chance into an environment that gives full play to their lack of knowledge.


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..the true agenda of the ADA-dieticians who control 'nutrition information' in the mass media is to ensure that no reader seriously investigate my writings.

Their technique is not new; having (in an earlier time) been paraphrased by one pioneering scientist as: ‘Trying their best to cover me in manure, so they could stand back and point out to everyone that I was covered in manure.


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THE MOST UNKINDEST CUT OF ALL. If none of the
foregoing charges can bear scrutiny, strategists
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:O ...if you are aware that all about those institutions is to be maniganzed by firms....dito that
only 1,5 % of the geneticly involved searchers (genmanipulators ) are on their own and all the others have to sing the chansons of their bosses

so it's  to observe that since a longer time the newroticisme of several whitecoated, especially the MD's is growing in form of narcisme  and selfishness. Fragmental views and thoughts are theirs ..........
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I never noticed the post above mine with the response from Dr. Mercola. Anyway, here's my take on it:


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I receive this question quite a bid so would like to provide a comprehensive answer that can be regularly referenced. I do believe that Dr. D'damo was an innovative pioneer for helping bring to greater public attention that there is no perfect diet for everyone. The title of his book, Eat Right for Your Type, was also pure genius. It is important to understand that after listening to a lecture Dr. D'damo gave prior to the publication of his book I really thought he was correct and adopted his program 100%.  So I have had quite a bit of experience with his program both personally and professionally. We also shared the same book agent and publisher for each of our first books, both of which were best sellers.


Interesting that he would bring that up. He actually went looking for my agent, who did work with him on his first book. She asked me if it was OK with me. I said it was fine. They've since parted company on rather tenuous terms.

 


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However, when I tried his program it was an unmitigated disaster and I actually developed type 2 diabetes from following his deluded concepts.  Part of the reason for his success is that the majority of the public will actually get great results but this is NOT related to his theory only the fact that he advocated the most common blood type, O, avoid all grains.


I think Joe is being very promiscuous with the facts here. You can't get Type II diabetes from eating a 100% junk food diet for a few months, let alone a healthy one. You've got to do some very bad things for a very long time or have some very bad genes to get DMII, although I'll admit that if he is telling the truth the timing could not have been any better for his writing career. I suspect that this is just a very convenient realignment of the facts so as to distance himself from me, who virtually everyone in publishing considers the 'category killer' in this type of diet book.



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This is great for most people anyway so when people follow it they improve and believe it was due to his theory. Unfortunately I am a blood type A and a strong protein Metabolic Type.  A protein type following his recommendations will die prematurely. Part of this is related to the fact that he discourages type As from vigorous exercise. After I switched to walking and adding grains to my diet as he suggested by fasting blood sugar climbed into diabetic range. So I got the clue and stopped it and discontinued using it in my practice and I discourage all to NOT follow his program.  The proper approach to understanding what foods you need to eat has very little to do with lectins and your blood type but has everything to do with your metabolic type.”


This is all very self-serving and gratuitous,  so I'll just pass on the commentary. Seems like walking is bad for you, to listen to him.  Also, I think he means encourage them to not follow the program, or discourage them from following the program.



Discouraging people to NOT follow the program  turns out to actually be encouraging them to do it.



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I love the slip up (discourage NOT to follow)!    And especially the view of your books being category killers!    The health food store closest to me sells your books by the way!  

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I love the slip up (discourage NOT to follow)



I'm sure Freud would have found something interesting it it as well.



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Peter... I think I must agree with the *bad genes* .........this might be even visible  


and I bet that he isnt' that tall as you   ......are

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The title of his book, Eat Right for Your Type, was also pure genius. It is important to understand that after listening to a lecture Dr. D'damo gave prior to the publication of his book I really thought he was correct and adopted his program 100%.


guess he was discourage NOT to follow the program from the very start!!!

the guy s a tiny bit jealous for my taste.......


that too contributed to his health issues........jealousy kills!!

great achievement passing the BB test!! congrats!


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You've got to do some very bad things for a very long time or have some very bad genes to get DMII

When I read Mercola's comments on BTD, I definitely remember him saying that diabetes ran in his family.  (It was quite a while ago and, sorry, but I have no desire to search around to see whether what I read is still on his site.)


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I disagree with the author of that article. Read all the reader comments below it and my opinion is the same of most of the comments that support Dr. Mercola.

I don't agree with everything Dr. Mercola advocates (obviously not the Metabolic Typing), but I have gotten so much valuable information from him.

I wish we could all just give it a rest. The guy is still doing far more to educate the general population on how we can better take care of ourselves than most doctors. None of us are perfect.

My two cents.


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We need as many good people as we can muster up to also become master marketers so their goodness can spread!



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hmmmmm.......-------- I feel that Lola went into the right direction
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I wish we could all just give it a rest. The guy is still doing far more to educate the general population on how we can better take care of ourselves than most doctors. None of us are perfect.


It's up to him to 'give it a rest', don't you think?


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If you do enjoy Mercola's information/site/newsletter/etc, you do like his style and his practices.  

Dr. D'Adamo's site feels different because it is different.  The foundation is different.  
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Obviously we are Dr. D fans here.  
But truth is to be found other places.  I lean to one political party more than the other, but I see some truth in the other one.  So, even with medicine, I lean to alternative (which really should be traditional), but there are times for conventional medicine, like in emergency situations.
We can explore Mercola, but still be loyal to the BTD.
I do agree with his principles about getting more sunlight, for example, as I deal with a miserable dreary climate as I have most of my life.  He has affirmed what I have been feeling for years, that moderation in sunlight is OK.  There was such an emphasis on avoiding the sun after some years of too much.  He put into words what I felt.  His 'metabolic typing' seems similar to BTD.  he just doesn't recogmize it!  Ha!
I get his newsletter (e-mail) & it has many interesting things.  My main complaint is that it is too long & too often.  At least he repeats certain things so I can skip over certain things at times. I don't know how to communicate with him, but I would say to cool it on the frequency & length!
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MrsT, I agree with Too long& too often.

When you get his newsletter go to unsuscribe and there is a choice of having those e-mails, 3 times a week, once a week or once a month.
I unsuscribed after the comment about diabetes, and not because I am fanatic follower of BTD, but because I didn't expect something like that from a qualified doctor.

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If you do enjoy Mercola's information/site/newsletter/etc, you do like his style and his practices.  

Dr. D'Adamo's site feels different because it is different.  The foundation is different.  


So what if I do? Because of his "style and practices" more people are educated. I've never felt pressured to buy anything from him. I've bought more from Peter's website than him.

Sure, there is a LOT of marketing. I just get around it. If you don't like it, unsubscribe and don't ever visit his website again, but don't bash the guy because you don't like his style and practices. I don't bash my neighbor just because he does something that's not my style. To each his own, remember?

Look, he's misinformed about BTD. We should all have compassion for him and pray that one day he will see the truth. You can't shove the truth down his throat.

Speaking as a Christian, I'd rather pray for him than put him down, no matter what he does. I stand my ground, people.

Dr. D, this is what I meant by giving it a rest.


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Lola,

I'm sorry but I believe you're taking that quote out of context.

The reader who left that comment, if you read the whole thing a little closer, was saying that by mass marketing, the message about health would reach a larger audience, therefore more people would be educated. Obviously more money is made this way, but that wasn't the point of that comment.



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I know it is a reader who left the comment, SD........

it is precisely the comment that I am commenting on, in general, for all who think like this reader, and there are many who do, unfortunately.




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I know it is a reader who left the comment, SD........

it is precisely the comment that I am commenting on, in general, for all who think like this reader, and there are many who do, unfortunately.




This is the comment you quoted from the reader:

"We need as many good people as we can muster up to also become master marketers so their goodness can spread!"

I wasn't trying to tell you that it wasn't my quote. I KNOW it's the reader who left that comment.

I was just trying to explain to you that the comment you quoted has been taken out of context. And what I mean by taken out of context is that you are giving that comment a different meaning than what the author of that quote meant.

I'm not trying to argue with you here but to have some clarification.


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there s something about master marketers and goodness I just can t digest........

have met a lot of people in my life, thinking only of becoming MMs, but are not interested in giving an example, all they re after is $........how sad is that?

there s no goodness from stepping on others........yet I believe in boomerangs or karma, or whatever you want to call it, always........


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If all they are after is money and not to help and educate others, then yes, that is very sad. I agree with you.

The trick is to not let them take advantage of us! There will always be Mass Marketers with less than honorable intentions.

Aside from the whole issue with Dr. Mercola, I believe it is possible to mass market something in a good way, IF it's done with the TRUTH and with the intention of EDUCATION. That takes money, and there is nothing wrong with selling products in relation to the subject to fund the marketing and earn a profit. We must earn money to live somehow. That's the beauty of our country, capitalism. But only if it's done righteously, which unfortunately, is not very often.


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true!


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about the diabetes thing.....anyone can get a high blood sugar reading if their diet has been a bit high in carbs and they are getting along in yrs, esp. if they have diabetes in the family....that doesn't mean he had diabetes!!! These things can be rectified with exercize and diet.....(I'm guessing Mercola was exagerrating due to a high blood sugar reading...) you could have a normal reading next day!
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Listen folks,

I don't have the slightest problem with people taking the good from anywhere or anyone and leaving the rest behind.  Including the good from Joe Mercola.

I also try not to spend my free time looking for new ways to knock Joe Mercola. I've been on the receiving end of way too much of that myself, and the man who said that when you point a finger, three more point back at you is correct.  



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Peter.... those are exactly my words.....and thoughts ......


thatshy better to point out....then to point at .......

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