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ISA-MANUELA
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just saw a report from this guy and here he copes indirectly with Peter's father's *input*
one man's food is someone else poison*  of course he transfered it into his own laberings and then he gave the advice: " to eat adequat to someones metabolic type.....because it could go into a wrong way genetically " woohoooo so he shows up that he relates onto the BTD....he-he-heeee

and what I felt in observing this type, I guess he's an ENTJ and that he might have has one a form of
diabetes juvenilis, yesss that's the type for...but never ever from BTD and I think he's an A nonnie.....
I do a bet for it .....

ok...now I unsuscribed his *oldletters*  
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He was a nice guy because he followed the blood type diet until he got diabetes.


Are you saying that following the blood type diet gave him diabetes?



Since as far as I know the only thing he ever followed about the BTD diet were the lectin avoids.


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ahem.....hi doc .D..gd'.mooornig you are that early....... wavies

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Are you saying that following the blood type diet gave him diabetes?



Since as far as I know the only thing he ever followed about the BTD diet were the lectin avoids.

The point about diabetes apparently came from Dr. Mercola in a response he wrote. See this post: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=GC,v=display,m=1174557949,#num17


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Thanks MoDon for the quote from Dr. D about Metabolic Typing and for Tomatilla's links. This really help me to a better understanding.  

Like I said his response (where he referred to the diabetes) to my question was removed from the webpage, but I received a copy via e-mail also.
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about metabolic typing...hmm we do have a doc around my village, he does darkfield..bla-bla-bla's and sorry I think merely all those forms are very equal to me as psychologists tried to establish a *typing system* to their clients...similar to Riso's enneagram, which is based onto the whole sacré work of C.G.Jung, C'G.Jung himself = dito, Reich,- Adler, Galen etc....

here we have found a new *enemy-projectional pic* and are able to go against whatosever... and of course, to get fixed a problem.....means one is appleshaped or like a poire  similar also to the types likewise ectomorph,endomorph and omG...did forgot it  

I think that every lifeperiode has its own issues and rules, as our doc wrote in the menopausal book,we
the women are in need of different stuffs than when being younger or also older...a form of transition too

and I don't think that the syndrome x is that different...almost too much of carbs (because we have been recommended in one diet for all )  and then people are getting lazier and lazier...not much of  walking or physical activities.....
and of course, to be à la moda.... ......younger ladies get superthinny morphologicamente and this
is the beginning of a generation which will be quicker seeming old than we have been I observe this in lots of younger woman and girlies......it's just awful to recognize.....those lacks are irreparable
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has anyone seen the movie -Amadeus-?

Mercola reminds me of Salieri!!

a vicious backstabber!
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should I say more?


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omG Lola...you are sooooo right
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It is a shame that he has that attitude regarding the BTD since he has such a large following that read his posts.


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Sounds like he didn't give the BTD a fair chance.  I didn't notice much change. either at first, but since I think I'm a nonnie & adapted the diet, I see the difference.
There is a lot of variation in type A. Also, As shouldn't eat too many grains, either.
Maybe he should have increased beneficial fish, turkey, etc.
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http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/p/archives/00000020.htm

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‘an idiot on stilts’ --a phrase that I have taken to mean any individual who finds themselves elevated by arrogance or chance into an environment that gives full play to their lack of knowledge.


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..the true agenda of the ADA-dieticians who control 'nutrition information' in the mass media is to ensure that no reader seriously investigate my writings.

Their technique is not new; having (in an earlier time) been paraphrased by one pioneering scientist as: ‘Trying their best to cover me in manure, so they could stand back and point out to everyone that I was covered in manure.


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Did he find out his secretor status?  
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THE MOST UNKINDEST CUT OF ALL. If none of the
foregoing charges can bear scrutiny, strategists
of personal denigration still hold an old and
conventional tactic in reserve: they can proclaim
a despised theory both trivial and devoid of content.

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/p/archives/00000115.htm


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Never chase a lie. Let it alone, and it will run itself to death.


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:O ...if you are aware that all about those institutions is to be maniganzed by firms....dito that
only 1,5 % of the geneticly involved searchers (genmanipulators ) are on their own and all the others have to sing the chansons of their bosses

so it's  to observe that since a longer time the newroticisme of several whitecoated, especially the MD's is growing in form of narcisme  and selfishness. Fragmental views and thoughts are theirs ..........
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I never noticed the post above mine with the response from Dr. Mercola. Anyway, here's my take on it:


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I receive this question quite a bid so would like to provide a comprehensive answer that can be regularly referenced. I do believe that Dr. D'damo was an innovative pioneer for helping bring to greater public attention that there is no perfect diet for everyone. The title of his book, Eat Right for Your Type, was also pure genius. It is important to understand that after listening to a lecture Dr. D'damo gave prior to the publication of his book I really thought he was correct and adopted his program 100%.  So I have had quite a bit of experience with his program both personally and professionally. We also shared the same book agent and publisher for each of our first books, both of which were best sellers.


Interesting that he would bring that up. He actually went looking for my agent, who did work with him on his first book. She asked me if it was OK with me. I said it was fine. They've since parted company on rather tenuous terms.

 


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However, when I tried his program it was an unmitigated disaster and I actually developed type 2 diabetes from following his deluded concepts.  Part of the reason for his success is that the majority of the public will actually get great results but this is NOT related to his theory only the fact that he advocated the most common blood type, O, avoid all grains.


I think Joe is being very promiscuous with the facts here. You can't get Type II diabetes from eating a 100% junk food diet for a few months, let alone a healthy one. You've got to do some very bad things for a very long time or have some very bad genes to get DMII, although I'll admit that if he is telling the truth the timing could not have been any better for his writing career. I suspect that this is just a very convenient realignment of the facts so as to distance himself from me, who virtually everyone in publishing considers the 'category killer' in this type of diet book.



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This is great for most people anyway so when people follow it they improve and believe it was due to his theory. Unfortunately I am a blood type A and a strong protein Metabolic Type.  A protein type following his recommendations will die prematurely. Part of this is related to the fact that he discourages type As from vigorous exercise. After I switched to walking and adding grains to my diet as he suggested by fasting blood sugar climbed into diabetic range. So I got the clue and stopped it and discontinued using it in my practice and I discourage all to NOT follow his program.  The proper approach to understanding what foods you need to eat has very little to do with lectins and your blood type but has everything to do with your metabolic type.”


This is all very self-serving and gratuitous,  so I'll just pass on the commentary. Seems like walking is bad for you, to listen to him.  Also, I think he means encourage them to not follow the program, or discourage them from following the program.



Discouraging people to NOT follow the program  turns out to actually be encouraging them to do it.



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I love the slip up (discourage NOT to follow)!    And especially the view of your books being category killers!    The health food store closest to me sells your books by the way!  

Congratulations on your advance with your black belt achievements!

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I love the slip up (discourage NOT to follow)



I'm sure Freud would have found something interesting it it as well.



Thanks for the congrats...  


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Peter... I think I must agree with the *bad genes* .........this might be even visible  


and I bet that he isnt' that tall as you   ......are

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The title of his book, Eat Right for Your Type, was also pure genius. It is important to understand that after listening to a lecture Dr. D'damo gave prior to the publication of his book I really thought he was correct and adopted his program 100%.


guess he was discourage NOT to follow the program from the very start!!!

the guy s a tiny bit jealous for my taste.......


that too contributed to his health issues........jealousy kills!!

great achievement passing the BB test!! congrats!


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You've got to do some very bad things for a very long time or have some very bad genes to get DMII

When I read Mercola's comments on BTD, I definitely remember him saying that diabetes ran in his family.  (It was quite a while ago and, sorry, but I have no desire to search around to see whether what I read is still on his site.)


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I disagree with the author of that article. Read all the reader comments below it and my opinion is the same of most of the comments that support Dr. Mercola.

I don't agree with everything Dr. Mercola advocates (obviously not the Metabolic Typing), but I have gotten so much valuable information from him.

I wish we could all just give it a rest. The guy is still doing far more to educate the general population on how we can better take care of ourselves than most doctors. None of us are perfect.

My two cents.


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hmmmmm.......-------- I feel that Lola went into the right direction
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I wish we could all just give it a rest. The guy is still doing far more to educate the general population on how we can better take care of ourselves than most doctors. None of us are perfect.


It's up to him to 'give it a rest', don't you think?


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