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ISA-MANUELA
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and found out that he recommend warmly to eat coconutoil

hmmm if I remember well, we are the only one who may have coconut as a fruit,,,
what happens when we all'd eat such an oil I remember well that Peter wrote once about it, and I think he wrote it's clocking arteries, no


I think this doc. M. looks a bit cranky ...doesn't he ....? He looks a bit preaged and
tja...what shall I say  a bit of profilingnewrotic too  ok that's only my opinion....

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Isa - Mercola is a 1 type diet for all guy...
some of his stuff is fine or Ok- I get his newsletter and I read them critical
- just always use BTD first....
that is my feeling.

concerning coconot oil- well the whole saturated fat question is a mixed bag of info.... for some bad news for others tralala  
I know for sure that I don´t worry about saturated fat from yoghurt... like lots of B´s I do better with the wholefat version...
I´m a MUCH nicer person when I get it !!!

Coconut oil is  for the O nonnies - but for the rest of us NOOOO


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Hey roostersis...I agree along with Henriette that Mercola is a 1 type diet kinda guy.  I get his newsletter also and take some of his advice with a grain of salt.  Remember, he is not BTD.   Coconut Oil is neutral for O nonnies...(I don't use it...it's just a neutral...would rather use some of the bennie stuff )...coconut meat and milk are only neutral for A's.  

He does have some good information alot of the times.  

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so do you think this are préjudgements of my part .........

I go for the newsletter of *Michael Murray* feel better here
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No...I don't think you have prejudgements...you just have to go with that gut feeling and with what you know.  Be you...  if it doesn't feel right...ask.  Like it is said above...some of his stuff is good and some is one size fits all.  You feel better reading Michael Murray...so be it.   As Henriette says...BTD first.   And there again...it is all about the individual.

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I, too, get Dr. Mercola's newsletters and have for years. I want to a make a small correction. While he appears to advocate one type of diet for all, the metabolic type diet, it actually isn't as it is broken down into different diets based on your metabolism. He even says, and I quote:

"Many of the world's leading dietary experts adopted one-size-fits-all dietary solutions that they believe can be universally applied. While there are indeed certain universal truths, such as the danger of sugar and toxins, if one adopts this principle, my experience has taught me that a one-size-fits-all approach doesn't work.

Fact: One person's food may be someone else's poison.

Many diets will reverse one condition in one person but have no effect, or even worsen the condition, in another person due to differences in metabolic biochemistry. Just as we all differ tremendously with respect to our outward physical appearance, we are also unique on an internal (biochemical and physiological) level -- we all process foods and utilize nutrients differently. When you adopt a diet based on your specific "metabolic type," you will resolve most health disorders and achieve optimum health."

This is probably as close to the BTD as it gets and hopefully one day, he will see the value in it. He is on the right track but not quite there yet. I also believe he has a lot of valuable information about a lot of things apart from diet. Obviously I dont follow his diet plan (never have), but it is still far better than most diets out there for those who have not discovered BTD.

Just my two cents.


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I agree with what you are saying, but Mercola will never advocate BTD until Dadamo pays him to.  The problem with Mercola is he has completely sold out, so yes, he does have some good things to say, but that imo is just luck, he doesn't know right from wrong, just how to cash a check



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The 'old' Mercola (say about ten years ago) was a rather nice guy.  


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and now....as *the new-one* .......

hmmm can't help.....you have better articles Peter ....and mooore interesting...than the typical
laberings from others ....hey btw...I wish you all the best for your event in May
and please give my kindest regards to our opmann called  G. Uhlenbruck



                                     

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Many years ago, I used to read Mercola's blogs and newsletters with great interest.  At some point, he seemed to change and his site began to feel like more of a Tabloid.  He does not research.

It's better than the typical SAD diet for sure, but I've kind of lost interest in him.



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So...he is another one like Kevin Trudeau?

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I agree with what you are saying, but Mercola will never advocate BTD until Dadamo pays him to.  The problem with Mercola is he has completely sold out, so yes, he does have some good things to say, but that imo is just luck, he doesn't know right from wrong, just how to cash a check


Yes, even to me he has lost some credibilty because of all the sales pitch on the various products he has. He wouldn't be Dr. Mercola if all the sudden he started advocating the BTD diet, since he would quickly lose his marketing niche. However, I still subscribe because there ARE some things I learn from him that no regular doctor could ever inform me on.


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when I was a rich man...didledadledidledadledummm............


:? yech all into the same potty .....


he-he-heee I was more than persuated that he couldn't reach our maischdda
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résumé : Merola is one of the * boringest of all* because everybody knows what he tries to explain in
a funny form of selfishness sigh... good that one can't understand all that he says he slurs
but even better here are the reports of Bill Sardi ......

it is horror to me to know how many of those peoples are just giving out *malinformations* to peoples.....just a bit of hoghwashings and mostly you can hear a voice...Hey do you remember this person talked about and now it has to be likewise this is also a forming of our subconscience by
everyday inputs
best of best...go an take the time for verifyings this is called *second opinion*
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Attention: to all chocolate lovers !!  

More of Dr. Mercola's comments ... taken with a grain of salt, of course !!

http://www.mercola.com/2007/ma.....-than-penicillin.htm

Cheers


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no claims about *white chocs* ....so no problems ......
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Mercola’s response
I thought some of you might be interested in the answer I received from Dr. Mercola on the question (below) I asked him a while back.

Question:      I would like to hear what your view on the blood type diet is and how it differs from metabolic typing.    
     
Answer:      “I receive this question quite a bid so would like to provide a comprehensive answer that can be regularly referenced. I do believe that Dr. D'damo was an innovative pioneer for helping bring to greater public attention that there is no perfect diet for everyone. The title of his book, Eat Right for Your Type, was also pure genius. It is important to understand that after listening to a lecture Dr. D'damo gave prior to the publication of his book I really thought he was correct and adopted his program 100%.  So I have had quite a bit of experience with his program both personally and professionally. We also shared the same book agent and publisher for each of our first books, both of which were best sellers. However, when I tried his program it was an unmitigated disaster and I actually developed type 2 diabetes from following his deluded concepts.  Part of the reason for his success is that the majority of the public will actually get great results but this is NOT related to his theory only the fact that he advocated the most common blood type, O, avoid all grains. This is great for most people anyway so when people follow it they improve and believe it was due to his theory. Unfortunately I am a blood type A and a strong protein Metabolic Type.  A protein type following his recommendations will die prematurely. Part of this is related to the fact that he discourages type As from vigorous exercise. After I switched to walking and adding grains to my diet as he suggested by fasting blood sugar climbed into diabetic range. So I got the clue and stopped it and discontinued using it in my practice and I discourage all to NOT follow his program.  The proper approach to understanding what foods you need to eat has very little to do with lectins and your blood type but has everything to do with your metabolic type.”

This was displayed on his QA webpage http://v.mercola.com/QA/QAHome.aspx for a day, but the next day when I check if there were any comments it was gone not even the search could find it.
This was no trap just want to understand the difference between the BTD and metabolic typing, which I still don’t. Maybe the same thing after all.
Anyhow his response helped me decide to go to IfHI 2007. Any other South Africans going? Please let me know.

Last thought
Could the genotype diet shed some more light? Wonder what surprise Dr. D has installed for us?

See you at IfHI 2007
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I seriously doubt if Dr. Mercola was tested for secretor status or for the subtle subtypings that are so important for type A's.  In that blood type, there is the greatest variety of diet changes, ranging from much more protein/less grain to lower protein/more grains.



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Isa - Mercola is a 1 type diet for all guy...


This is not correct.  He talks about the metabolic type diet which is three types.  So blood type diet is four types one more.


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The 'old' Mercola (say about ten years ago) was a rather nice guy.  


He was a nice guy because he followed the blood type diet until he got diabetes.
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[quote=Henriette_Bsec]Isa - Mercola is a 1 type diet for all guy...


This is not correct.  He talks about the metabolic type diet which is three types.  So blood type diet is four types one more.



True... BUT reading Johans post just make me think that he still havn´t got it right......



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seems in his text about metabolic typing...that he's more than anxious to fail in not getting all his *rubelchen* needed    omG...what a coinseaker

go on google and there all is free and in more than one different variants  
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Quoted from Dr. D - Metabolic Typing
The BTD is different from the metabolic typing system(s). Probably the most simple reason being that nobody has every demonstrated that the metabolic types actually exist.

With the BTD, you have very distinct categories, well recognized scientifically, that can be tested, and those results can be consider to be consistent across the board. In other words, if you are a type AB in one doctor's office, you will be a type AB in another. Because of the high degree of reproducibility, when we learn something about AB (and it is statistically significant) that fact is applicable to just about all ABs (exempting additional refinements, such as secretor, etc.).

With BTD you build from a sound patho-physiologic foundation.

Now, most metabolic typing uses rules of thumb. like questionaires.  The categorizations have never been scientifically demonstrated (there are no references on MEDLINE to something called a 'slow oxidizer' for example) and there has never been any genetic associations to any of these metabolic types. In other words, for something supposedly so  important a metabolic distinction, there should have been a determination of what particular gene determines metabolic type. And it should be a BIG gene, which would have, in the 100-year history of genetics, been very hard to miss.

There is no such gene.

If there is no gene, there can be no transmittance, thus, what a lot of people call 'metabolic types' are not polymorphisms at all, but descriptions of versions of particular types of hypoglycemia, irritable bowel syndrome, thyroid disease, etc. Now for example, lots of people may have type I diabetes or type II diabetes, but being one or the other is not determined by having a DMI gene versus a DMII gene, it is just particular pathology chute you happened to have fallen into.

Although a lot of the 'metabolic typers' like to take pot shots at the BTD, in reality they do it because the BTD is the '800 pound gorilla' in nutrigenomics, with millions of copies of books out there, so it is easy to use it to get someone interested in metabolic typing by linking to it, then dissing it with something supposedly better.

However not a single proponent has even volunteered to show me the genetic rationale behind the 'metabolic' types (i.e locus on  a particular chromosome).

No doubt because there isn't any.

Probably the best indictment of the lack of credibility of most of metabolic typing is that if you read the books that start out telling you how much greater metabolic typing is versus BTD, by the end they usually wind up telling you that if your 'metabolic typing' program is not working, you may want to get yourself blood typed!


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some interessants infos about this thema :

http://www.precon.ch
http://www.mty.ch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_typing
http://www.biamed.ch
http://www.healthexcel.com/


here comes the best have an eye into this and please tell me if you recognize something in here

http://www.metabolictypingdiet.com/index 2.html


btw::::
a super great statement from our doc....about metabolic typing

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