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Does anybody know which is sweeter ?? Brown rice syrup, Barley malt, Honey or Agave nectar ? Thank-u  |
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I really don't know which one is sweeter. I think honey is pretty sweet, but can't have it anymore. Veggie glycerine and agave nectar are all around neutrals for anyone...and then again you have the individuality thing.  Debra  |
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Agave nectar seems sweeter to me, but it also doesn't spike me like honey. The first two on your list are thick, but not as sweet IMO. |
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Quoted from LISALEA
Does anybody know which is sweeter ?? Brown rice syrup, Barley malt, Honey or Agave nectar ? Thank-u 
- Honey
- Barley Malt
- Rice Syrup
Never tried Agave Nectar or Glycerine- but guessing that it is up there with Honey and Malt. The problem with Malts and Rice Syrups is they have a much "rounder full-bodied" flavour due to being from grain AND the darker the colour the less actual sweet but more grainy flavour. Light coloured Rice Syrups tend to be a lot less sweet than a comparable Malt Syrup...Time for the old Refractometer and Hydrometer tests to actually tell. |
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Herr Schlüggell, you should try agave nectar sometime. It's lighter than honey, but somehow sweeter, with no aftertaste. I think your description of grain-based sweeteners having a "rounder full-bodied" flavor is very accurate. |
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... I think your description of grain-based sweeteners having a "rounder full-bodied" flavor is very accurate.
Comes from making a lot of beer.  If you venture to a Homebrew SUpply you'll taste a whole world of flavours unavailable in the HFS. One day I'll try the Agave Nectar and Glycerin - just haven't had the need to... |
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I have used the agave and glycerine and I personally think that the glycerine is sweeter. I have been avoiding sweetners for a while so any time of sugars I now am trying would only be to icky sweet for me. Maybe you can do a taste test  then you can know which one is sweeter for you. I like the agave taste better then the glycerine. It's got a more natural taste to me. |
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Lisalea |
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Quoted from Schluggell
- Honey
- Barley Malt
- Rice Syrup
Never tried Agave Nectar or Glycerine- but guessing that it is up there with Honey and Malt. The problem with Malts and Rice Syrups is they have a much "rounder full-bodied" flavour due to being from grain AND the darker the colour the less actual sweet but more grainy flavour. Light coloured Rice Syrups tend to be a lot less sweet than a comparable Malt Syrup...Time for the old Refractometer and Hydrometer tests to actually tell.
Thanks so much  I love Honey but at times I would like to try another sweetner and Agave Nectar sounds sweet and that's right up my alley !!  |
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I have used the agave and glycerine and I personally think that the glycerine is sweeter. I have been avoiding sweetners for a while so any time of sugars I now am trying would only be to icky sweet for me. Maybe you can do a taste test  then you can know which one is sweeter for you. I like the agave taste better then the glycerine. It's got a more natural taste to me.
Yep, sounds like Agave Nectar will be the next sweetner that I intend to try  Thanks  |
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Agave nectar seems sweeter to me, but it also doesn't spike me like honey.
That's even better actually !! Thanks  |
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I really don't know which one is sweeter. I think honey is pretty sweet, but can't have it anymore. Veggie glycerine and agave nectar are all around neutrals for anyone...and then again you have the individuality thing.  Debra 
Indeed honey is sweet; Ive tried so many different kinds however; it's time for a change ...  TY  |
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I am not eatimg any sweeteners currently, but from the best of my knowledge from consuming these items in the past, I would rank the list as follows:
honey, agave nectar, brown rice syrup (mildly sweet--good for holding non-cooked baked items together), malt syrup (more of a malt flavor for appropriate culinary uses)
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| Saturday, March 17, 2007, 12:31am |
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I am not eatimg any sweeteners currently, but from the best of my knowledge from consuming these items in the past, I would rank the list as follows:
honey, agave nectar, brown rice syrup (mildly sweet--good for holding non-cooked baked items together), malt syrup (more of a malt flavor for appropriate culinary uses)
Alia
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Agave syrup and brown rice syrup may be equally ranked, but agave syrup is probably more versatile in cooked and unheated foods.
I do not believe brown rice syrup would impart alot of sweetness in cooked baked goods, unless one used quite a large amount of it.
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Quoted from Alia_Vo
I am not eatimg any sweeteners currently, but from the best of my knowledge from consuming these items in the past, I would rank the list as follows:
honey, agave nectar, brown rice syrup (mildly sweet--good for holding non-cooked baked items together), malt syrup (more of a malt flavor for appropriate culinary uses)
Alia
That's very good info thanks, I guess I will stick to honey, agave and 100% maple syrup for now  |
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Someone recently suggested to me to use pure fruit juice concentrates as a sweetener. I haven't had the opportunity to try it so far, but they are very sweet and very thick. |
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Does anyone know if sorghum molasses is included in the molasses beneficials for type A's? It's like regular molasses (sort of) except that it's made from sorghum cane instead of sugar cane. It's locally made and I grew up eating it, but haven't included it in my plan because I wasn't sure if it was okay.
It's got a different, full-bodied taste that I think molasses lacks, but hey, everyone's different.
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One of the older food lists showed it to be an avoid for at least some blood types. I haven't seen it lately on any lists. |
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LisaLea, I would not recommend barley malt for you since it is an avoid. I think your final choices for sweeteners are your best bets. |
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LisaLea, I would not recommend barley malt for you since it is an avoid. I think your final choices for sweeteners are your best bets.
Thank-u for ur concern Victoria, I appreciate it  I will MOST definately stick to my final choices ... I've been compliant for a whole month and it hasn't been that hard actually; I try my best to be VERY creative with the bennies and neutrals in order to maintain a healthy balance; this way I stay healthy, happy all the while eating absolutely delicious meals ... and with this forum that continues to help, advise, guide etc ... I can't go wrong  |
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Does anyone know if sorghum molasses is included in the molasses beneficials for type A's? It's like regular molasses (sort of) except that it's made from sorghum cane instead of sugar cane. It's locally made and I grew up eating it, but haven't included it in my plan because I wasn't sure if it was okay.
It's got a different, full-bodied taste that I think molasses lacks, but hey, everyone's different.
Thanks!
Welcome to the forum, richgirlred. According to Typebase4, sorghum molasses is not rated, but sorghum the whole grain is neutral for blood type A's. This does not directly imply that it is neutral, but when one reads the product description for sorghum in Typebase4, it does state that one of sorghum's common uses is as a sweetener. It may be best to check how your body and digestive system is able to tolerate it, since it is not technically rated. Alia |
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Thank you Alia!
I never noticed a problem with it before, but then again I was eating a lot of things that weren't good for me so it would be hard to pin down which baddie was causing the problem.
My FIL just brought some back from Alabama so I'm giving it a go on my oatmeal in the morning. I'll keep you posted on the results! |
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Another question ... doesn't Barley malt come from Barley afterall  Barley is a neutral for me and it's really tasty as a grain that I soak overnight and then cook for almost 50 minutes the next day ... I also add extra water and make barley tea since I've read that it helps improve blood fluidity and also helps lossed hardened food in the intestines  |
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Someone recently suggested to me to use pure fruit juice concentrates as a sweetener. I haven't had the opportunity to try it so far, but they are very sweet and very thick.
Keep us posted if u try it  Thanks |
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