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Victoria
Wednesday, March 14, 2007, 5:31am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi Mary Peck!  Nice to see another B nonnie, and it sounds like you are really working the program in an effective way.  Thank you for your suggestions!

colojd,
I was raised much like you, in the country, with our own chickens and family vegetable garden, fruit trees, etc.  I did eat a lot of avoids, with all the chicken, breads, pork/ham, sugar . . but the country life gave us a certain edge.  It all caught up with me as I hit perimenopause, just as you experienced.  My weight really shot up at that time.  I have dropped most of the weight, and my weight has leveled out at a point that is really more than I think I should weigh, but seems to be the amount that I feel the most energetic at.  So I'm just working on staying fit.

A note about eating chickens.  There seems to be a strong link between chicken consumption and strokes in type B's.  We don't need that, fellow B's!



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Captain_Janeway
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Like many people, I have this problem - I am a type B, walking more, try to do aerboic type activity in addition to walking, and try to eat as close to the BTD diet as possible but my problem is that it seems all of my extra weight is on my lower abs.

My husband and I were in a very stressful work situation which we both left at the end of 2006, fortunately. But during that time, I admit I was not eating or exercising as much as I could and the stress probably compounded my problem.

Would like to hear from others as to what they did to help budge the belly fat off - any suggestions and words of encouragement will help. I also began about 2 weeks ago eating as few of grains as possible. My 15 yr old son is also a B, and he is very intolerant of wheat so he always avoids that. I feel that I am probably likewise either gluten or intolerant of some grains. We just began buying the brown rice gluten free bread to use. Had been using sprouted grain bread and I often ate oatmeal for breakfast - now I wonder since the oatmeal has gluten if that was not doing much to help my waistline.

Anyway, I would appreciate any tips and suggestions on what you did, especially if you are a B, to maybe eliminate the abdominal fat. I would love to finally get back to my slimmer self this spring or summer!

Thanks,
Joyce


I'm not a B, but what worked for me, was cutting out sugars and sticking to the less sweet fruits like blueberries, raspberries,blackberries,cherries and strawberries.
Avoiding wheat as much as possible, keeping grain portions in the range of an O non-secretor even though I'm not an O. Eating lean proteins, avoiding trans fats while keeping a moderate intake on healthy fats and watching starchy carbs closely.

Exercise wise more aerobic activity from fast walking and cycling. Abdominal crunches 3-4 times per week. I lost girth from my abdominals and waist especially when I cut the grains and sugars.


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Henriette Bsec
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Hi Joyce
last 3 weeks or so I have used this new approach:
No grains, no sugars, no alchohol- no dry fruits from monday-to midday friday
Friday evening to sunday: small ammounts of spelt, rice - sugar and wine is added back and more fruits.
And it works really well(lost several inches on my body withourt changing my exercise habits.

First of all it is not too rigid - and being a B and a leo and enjoying life
I just canīt stand to strickt lifestyle/diets It is very balanced as well.

When I just eat veggies, meat, fish,beans, eggs,cheese, nuts and dairy  and small ammounts of fruits the first days - I feel very good - and it fits quite well with my Oīs diet ( except for the dairy)
In the weekend: I love to bake and make a nice bread or some lovely cake
- and that way weekends are special
- somehow I do not overindulge in theese days- Sugar and juice taste sooo sweet .
This morning I just realised that I really did not miss my old B diet - but really liked my new way- that is so NOT me.... normally I canīt wait to finish a diet

I think to loose fat on belly- one needs to do stomach exercise as well.
Walking is great- I do that a lot- but you do not use stomachmuscles.

Be really carefull with glutenfree breads- most of them contains B avoids !!


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colojd
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Thanks Mary, MoDon and ABJoe for your comments. Those certainly do help. I did find, as you all suggested, that when you are compliant as much as possible, that cravings do disappear. I can see that the secretor status may certainly help me understand more.

Since I am middle aged, I think now more than ever it is important for me to get a handle on my health and well being. I am lucky in that I have not had any major menopause problems, so I want to continue on and be healthier.

I read an interesting article the other day about walking. A doctor did a study about 10 or 15 yrs ago they call the "Nun's study" where he recorded the health of a group of Nuns who walked, and those that didn't. One Nun even began walking when she is 70 and is still alive and well. I do enjoy walking as well, so looking forward to sticking with it.

Stress reduction and management is also a very firm long term goal. My husband and I have had our share of it in the past few years, and I can see how destructive it is.
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Hi Henriette, Victoria and Captain Janeway - all of what you said is also good advice.

Regarding chicken - I seldom eat it now. We have been trying for about a month now to eat two meals that are fish/seafood related. I can get by with eating turkey rather than chicken with no problem.

Henriette, you plan sounds very interesting. I too have lately limited the grains and definitely the sugar. You are right that balancing is so important for us B's. Making something special on the weekends is a great way to keep that balance. That way, it is not a diet of total denial but one where you allow something special and enjoy it but get back to your regular plan the other days of the week.

It seems wheat avoidance is really a positive thing for so many of us. Wheat used to be a nutritious grain, but now has been altered so much it contains more irritants than good stuff. I do understand what you are saying about gluten free breads, most do have some type of avoid flour in them. Very difficult. My son can tolerate sprouted grain breads and spelt with no problem, so we do use that as well but these last two weeks or so I am avoiding the sprouted grains as well.
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Another nonnie here.  The "Abdominal Fat" heading really grabbed my attention!  This is my problem area too, along with "back fat."  

Just to add my 2 cents, I gave up sugar and grains for lent, so it's been about 3 weeks now without those 2 big offenders.  My waist went down about 3/4" and my upper stomach went down about 1/2".  I've still got the lumpy stomach, except it's just not as large a lump!  Wish I'd have the willpower to continue eating this way until at least the end of the year as I think it would make a BIG difference in my waist, but alas, I am not that confident in myself!  Also, at 43, I think I'm in perimenopause and that can't help things any.

I've also stuck to my exercise routine:  2 or 3 days on the treadmill (30 to 50 mins); and 3 days lifting weights.

I agree with others that knowing your secretor status will definitely help you in this pursuit.

Good luck Joyce!


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colojd
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Hi HarmonyKitty, great to hear your comments and information.

I too have given up the grains - it has been about 2 weeks and its funny what you mentioned you have seen happening because I have actually noticed a slight dent where my waist should be, too. That was why I commented about the grains. I really do think that the avoids or even neutrals definitely can get things off kilter. As you say, it probably will take some time just keeping off these items to see some real progress but I feel that in the long run it will be worth it.

Not long ago, when all of the talk about trans fats was going around, they did say a very surprising thing - that trans fats have a way of moving fat from different areas of your body to the lower abs. The article said for example if you had excess fat on your upper arms, that the trans fats move it to the abs. Since up until recently trans fat content was not clearly labeled, I am sure that I was eating it and it was causing a lot of these problems - as we all know, doctors told people to use "low fat" products and the patients wondered why they were not feeling better or moving more fat and now they know most of these products were loaded with trans fats. They used them as "healthy alternatives" to saturated fats. Now we also know that some products can say 0 grams trans fats and still contain a fair amount. Sure wish they could be totally banned but they say the prepared food companies are fighting it because it is a cheap fat to use and helps shelf life of products.

I will update all of you on what my status is.  Next week we will be out of town for a spring break trip. However I am not concerned dietwise and know that there are healthy foods available.

Thanks and I will keep in touch.
Joyce
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They used them as "healthy alternatives" to saturated fats. Now we also know that some products can say 0 grams trans fats and still contain a fair amount. Sure wish they could be totally banned but they say the prepared food companies are fighting it because it is a cheap fat to use and helps shelf life of products.


*Small rant: I find this kind of thinking interesting because every person does have the choice on whether to eat cr*p or not, even without the government "banning" foods. If each person was educated on/took responsibility for their own food intake, I think we as a whole would be so much better off, both physically and healthcare-wise. *rant over.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Colojd, I've had a lot of the same symptoms as you, well except for the perimenawhatever thing. That leads me to think that you might also be a nonsecretor. If you are with possible sydrome X my recommendations would be: an ounce of walnuts most days, fenugreek capsuls, fish oil capsuls or more fatty fish, limit grains to a little rice preferably brown, watch for hidden corn when eating out as it is my biggest trigger for weight gain, exercise including yoga and cardiovascular exercise, and use no sweeteners other than vegetable glycerine or small amounts of fruit juice. If I am coplient with all of this my test readings will be allmost normal with an exception connected to genetics(ultra low LDL) when I  am not complient as I have not really been for the last year it shows up in the readings as high triglycerides and a borderline high glucose level as well as higher weight.
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Thanks gulfcoastguy. Now I am wondering if I might be a non secretor. I might go to the food list and see if there are some that I had not thought of as beneficial that now might be and test them out, until I know the test results.

I think I probably did have the sydrome X/metabolic syndrome thing and my doctor just was not informed. He kept telling me that all I needed was portion control and/or Weight Watchers, although he himself said he used weight watchers, would go off of it and gain weight and only get back on to lose what he had gained. That seemed counterproductive. Why not find what is a reasonable eating plan which you can stick with?

I actually have started doing all that you have suggested, except for the fenugreek capsules. Not sure what those are, and I must admit I am a little unsure about using some herbs if I don't fully understand what they do. But we have been eating more walnuts and fish, and I am sure that this will help.

Thanks for your comments.
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The fenugreek capsules are listed in the protocals for cardiovascular and diabetes. They are basically ground fenugreek seeds in capsul form.
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Thanks, I will take a look at them.
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