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Luana
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Unfortunately, I am unable to have a naturopath treat me that is a follower of the BTD.  In fact my Naturopathic Doctor tried the BTD and it did not work for her.  She eats more like an A even though she is an O.

I am a B and she is trying to help my organs to heal through food avoidance and herbal supplementation.  The main foods I am to avoid so far are dairy and red meat which she tells me have pro-inflammatory properties for me while I am healing.

I find this to be very difficult because I feel so much better when I have some good solid protien.  She recommends I eat soy based foods but soy is a lectin to me according to the BTD data base.

Has anyone had to deal with such opposite means of treatment for their blood type?

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I was in your position a while ago, and while I loved my ND, I took what he said about foods with a grain of salt. He didn't believe in the BTD either, but I know what works and what doesn't work for me in terms of food (after all, it is my body and I have to live with, and in, it). He helped me immensely otherwise. He was also an accupuncturist. Can you possibly find another naturopath to treat you?

Turkey is very similar to chicken and is not an avoid.
I hope you can find the happy medium and get well soon.


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Unfortunately, I am unable to have a naturopath treat me that is a follower of the BTD.  In fact my Naturopathic Doctor tried the BTD and it did not work for her.  She eats more like an A even though she is an O.

I am a B and she is trying to help my organs to heal through food avoidance and herbal supplementation.  The main foods I am to avoid so far are dairy and red meat which she tells me have pro-inflammatory properties for me while I am healing.

I find this to be very difficult because I feel so much better when I have some good solid protien.  She recommends I eat soy based foods but soy is a lectin to me according to the BTD data base.

Has anyone had to deal with such opposite means of treatment for their blood type?

distressed,
Luana


If you are having health issues, then the number one thing you need to do is get secretor status tested.  This, imho, is key to following the correct diet for you to get the best opportunity to heal.



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Well for a ND to tell someone who is ill to eat soy would automatically disregard them in my opinion



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Well for a ND to tell someone who is ill to eat soy would automatically disregard them in my opinion


Why do you say this? Just curious. Or are you referring to Bs specifically?


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.

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It can be difficult to find a health care practitioner who understand and supports the BTD.  I believe that will gradually change, but for today, we sometimes can't find someone to work with the way we eat.  

I don't eat foods that are avoids for my blood type, even if a naturopath tells me to.  I will take all the suggestions that don't conflict with the BTD and make substitutions whenever I can.  Above all, eating for our blood type is the bottom line and foundation to build solid health upon.  

Foods that are rated as Highly Beneficial in the Health Library Series are designed to be healing and anti-inflammatory.  That might be a good place to work from as you shape your protocol around your Naturopath's suggestions.  Remember that it is her perspective based on her values, and not necessarily what is right for you.  Take what works for you from what she says and leave what you don't believe in.

It may be that you have other health issues, such intolerance to cow dairy, in which case, you might try some goat yogurt.  If I eat any cow milk products, I get quite ill.  A Naturopath could misinterpret that to say that dairy is bad for me, but goat milk in cultured form is extremely great for me.

Beef sits very heavy in my stomach, and I only eat it once a month or so.  Lamb, on the other hand, is one of the Super Beneficials that builds a strong immune system in us B's.  Please be careful of soy.  It can drain the well-being right out of us B's.

You could also have some gluten problems, which could be very inflammatory to your organs.

Just keep alert.    



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luana,

I would ever-so-politely and evasively ditch that naturopath so fast it would make your head spin.

After that, I would then check out this link of Dr. D's, and find a certified blood type diet practitioner in your area:

http://www.dadamo.com/registry/searchifhi.html
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I agree with Victoria regarding soy draining the well being out of us Bs.

Luana you said you feel so much better when you have some good solid protein.  Id listen to what your body is telling you and dump that naturopath.  I too feel better when I eat good protein.

What are you healing from in the 1st place?


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A good naturopath should be willing to work WITH you.  If you want to follow the BTD, she does not have to agree, but she should be flexible and willing to help you stay on the BTD while following her recommendations.  You can adjust nearly any diet to be BTD compliant, at least in the short term.

If she is not willing to work with you, she is likely lacking in other areas that naturopaths should excel at...


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The main problem I went in for was recurrent vaginitis and a prolapse uterus along with an irritable bladder.  So with all this I was first given a sheet to plot my food intake choices and associated symptoms of the day.  I was then put on a food avoidance diet for 3 weeks called the brown rice cleanse, along with a Candida Purge.  After this I was given a herbal combination to help balance my hormones.  This concoction is to be taken for up to 3 months and is not cheap.

I am also taking Calcium-Magnesium Liquid and a strong Probiotic.

I have also been given 4 separate acupuncture sessions for my spleen, kidneys, uterus, etc.

I am back to adding foods back into my diet using a symptom chart as I do so.  

She is a very nice doctor and has not put down my BTD decision but has no knowledge of it as far as what is beneficial for me in that area.  

She said avoiding meat is crucial because of the arachadonic acid which is pro-inflammatory for me at this time.  I asked her if this applied to grass fed meat and she said yes.

Once I am healed, she says I can starting adding food like that back in but it may take 3-6 months.  yeak!

My next appointment with her is in 3 months.  The problem is I cannot find a BTD practitioner here in my area (S. Ontario).  I would hate to switch since it costs so much money to get set up with one in the first place.


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oh this is the 'brown rice cleanse doctor' where is her degree from?  not to question her training, but there are definitly two secs of nd's and it would help to understand which one she is coming from (I have my feelings)



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luanaflacco, my old NP was not a believer of BTD. Actually he was firmly opposed, but he did have a lot of knowledge about health and the such. I listened to what he had to say and threw out what didn't agree w/ BTD. He is my old NP because he is far away and my current NP is close and also my chiro. I don't know that I would necessarily ditch your NP because she may have some very good knowledge you'll need. No one is going to agree 100% w/ us. While your NP isn't all you might like her to be, at least she isn't putting BTD down and does say after what I'm guessing she is considering a 'resting period' for your body, she does say you can add meat back in. My current NP has heard of BTD but doesn't really know about it. I gave him his own copy and asked that he at least read on my blood type so we could be on the 'same page' about my healing. I can tell by several of our conversations, that he has at least read some of it.
One thing I have learned from BTD, above all else, is to listen to what my own body is telling me. IMHO that is very important to eating properly. Dr D gives us
great guidelines, but only we know how each food affects us.  



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hi dear,
can't you look for a practioner who is working with a resonance machina So you might be tested and here you see exacly on what kind of stuffs you are reaction righ now!!!
Easier, quicker and I am sorry, I think there are loads of prejudgements in that ND and I'd change her immediately, there are not much % of differences when doing such a test, as Dr. D. wrote in his book; only certaine circumstances might appear and then ok...and also because  of your own individuality, but what I observed is, that Dr. D. is about 95 % right......I'd say even more

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::= claarrrooo he is .......
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Well, hey, there ya go luanaflacco.....can't get much better than a personal recommendation from Dr D!!!




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My natural path takes the BTD with a grain of salt and wants me to follow and use her vitimin/mineral supps.  I don't, and I just don't tell her BECAUSE.. she has helped me immensely with so many other things.  She IS my doctor and so she orders testings and xrays and urine testing, hormone testing, etc., etc.  And she finds things that help me immensely such as tumeric.  She is really interested in my health and digs in like a detective when something is not right.  She helped me by setting up blood draws for hemochromotosis at the Red Cross and found my recent yeast infection with the urine testing; she found out my hormones were out of whack and got me on the right supplements for that; she found my adrenals were shot after 4 years of horrid personal trauma, and I could go on and on.  So just because she doesn't fully run with the BTD does not affect me.  I take the supp's I want and just carry on!

She's also reasonable, takes my calls and answers my emails!  What medical doctor does all that?

So if you've got a good one, take the good stuff they offer and then ditch the rest and follow your blood type regime on your own with the support of the literature and this wonderful group of people here on the threads!
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Luana, you should get your secretor status checked.  I bet youre a nonnie.


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My natural path takes the BTD with a grain of salt and wants me to follow and use her vitimin/mineral supps.  I don't, and I just don't tell her BECAUSE.. she has helped me immensely with so many other things.  She IS my doctor and so she orders testings and xrays and urine testing, hormone testing, etc., etc.  And she finds things that help me immensely such as tumeric.  She is really interested in my health and digs in like a detective when something is not right.  She helped me by setting up blood draws for hemochromotosis at the Red Cross and found my recent yeast infection with the urine testing; she found out my hormones were out of whack and got me on the right supplements for that; she found my adrenals were shot after 4 years of horrid personal trauma, and I could go on and on.  So just because she doesn't fully run with the BTD does not affect me.  I take the supp's I want and just carry on!

She's also reasonable, takes my calls and answers my emails!  What medical doctor does all that?

So if you've got a good one, take the good stuff they offer and then ditch the rest and follow your blood type regime on your own with the support of the literature and this wonderful group of people here on the threads!


A natural path that can orders testings and xrays and urine testing, hormone testing, etc., etc. ??
I thought it was on MD'S that could do that ???

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She's an MD Natural Path.  She choose Natural Medicine as her thesis and continued practice.
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My natural path takes the BTD with a grain of salt and wants me to follow and use her vitimin/mineral supps.  I don't, and I just don't tell her BECAUSE.. she has helped me immensely with so many other things.  She IS my doctor and so she orders testings and xrays and urine testing, hormone testing, etc., etc.  And she finds things that help me immensely such as tumeric.  She is really interested in my health and digs in like a detective when something is not right.  She helped me by setting up blood draws for hemochromotosis at the Red Cross and found my recent yeast infection with the urine testing; she found out my hormones were out of whack and got me on the right supplements for that; she found my adrenals were shot after 4 years of horrid personal trauma, and I could go on and on.  So just because she doesn't fully run with the BTD does not affect me.  I take the supp's I want and just carry on!
She's also reasonable, takes my calls and answers my emails!  What medical doctor does all that?
So if you've got a good one, take the good stuff they offer and then ditch the rest and follow your blood type regime on your own with the support of the literature and this wonderful group of people here on the threads!


   Wish I lived near you!!!  It's very hard to find an MD that is totally on board w/ BTD and I 100% agree w/ you. Take the good (and she does sound good) and leave what isn't. Pretty simple really.  



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She's an MD Natural Path.  She choose Natural Medicine as her thesis and continued practice.


Now that is a DREAM doctor ...
Lucky u !!
I wish I could find one that was knowledgeable in both fields !!
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A natural path that can orders testings and xrays and urine testing, hormone testing, etc., etc. ??
I thought it was on MD'S that could do that ???

Thank-u


no actually that is false, every state has different rules but in many states that allow ND's to practice they are considered GP's (general practicioner) and so can order the same tests as a MD as well as prescribe antibiotics




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no actually that is false, every state has different rules but in many states that allow ND's to practice they are considered GP's (general practicioner) and so can order the same tests as a MD as well as prescribe antibiotics



Thank-u very much for clarifying Laura P


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Zuki, my NP is actually a chiro (in disguise ). He said he and some other chiros in St. Louis have been applying/petitioning to be licensed to write prescriptions, order blood tests, etc for several years. They've been denied to date. I believe they have figured a way around it if they're denied again this year. I hope so. If that happens, he'll be my primary doctor, just about is anyway.  



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