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Tina
Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 7:50pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Just read in a magazine that we should eat salmon and other fish for the Omega 3's but not to eat smoked salmon or fish as it has been linked to an increased risk of developing certain cancers.  What do you all think?  I haven't felt comfortable lately after eating the smoked sardines so I have been eating the skinless/boneless unsmoked ones, and my body is doing much better with those.

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yes....as well as polyamines.....and more....


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Yep agreed, plus smoked things are very hard to digest and stressful on the system



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...I haven't felt comfortable lately after eating the smoked sardines so I have been eating the skinless/boneless unsmoked ones, and my body is doing much better with those.


If you eat fish for the 'Omegas and all the other various trace nutrients' you'll want the whole ones - Skin and Bones. Plus, they taste better to me.

Personally though I disagree over the hoo-haw over the smoking - as we don't really know the quality, and the process of smoking of same, of the 'smoked foods' tested.
But in strict terms of Omegas you wouldn't want smoked.



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I cant recall having smoked fish myself but I think the less processed product would be the best. Questions here as well as to what the smoking agent was and how long the Sardines were exposed. Heating and longer smoking time would allow more penetration of the agent etc. etc.

Too complicated for me.





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If anyone discovers a sardine brand that offers the whole fish:  with bones and skin, that has NOT been smoked, please share with us!  



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I have found some, in olive oil, from Spain.......can t remember the name now....

here are a few......don t know if available in the US
http://www.ciao.es/Sardinas_en_aceite_198080_4


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Let us know after you take the ginko, Lola!  



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the thing is, I can t get them anymore..

the ones available are with soy oil.....or tomato sauce!!!


so have been forced to buy fresh.......stack  those in the crock pot all night with salt...etc and a bit of water.....
bones are just like canned ones next day!! they fall apart.


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Oh, then you're off the hook!  

It seems to always be a toss up between the smoked and the avoids, or sardines that have lost their bones and skin.  

Too bad!



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toss some fresh ones in your crock pot.......added that to my above post....


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There are some absolutely wonderful sardines that I get at Trader Joe's in Tucson. King Oscar Extra Small Brisling Sardines in extra virgin olive oil from Norway. I just love 'em. Here's their website

http://tinyurl.com/2j6ydv

Here's the kind I get

http://tinyurl.com/2ru5sc
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I buy those King Oscar Sardines from our Trader Joes also.  They are delicious, but I'm pretty sure they are smoked.

Lola,
I've never seen fresh sardines.  Is it just a Mexican phenomenon?



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there are fresh and frozen whole, too. from Portugal I believe......


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Quoted from lola
I have found some, in olive oil, from Spain.......can t remember the name now....


I buy this brand here in Spain, maybe google may help, they're callled 'MIAU' and in olive oil. Can't stand them myself but my husband enjoys them.


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I was kind of wondering about smoked stuff too.  Obviously inhaling smoke is bad-  so I'm wondering if it's just the same concept, but on a more subtle level.



Just got this from Wikipedia (love that place)

"Many compounds of smoke from fires are highly toxic and/or irritant. The most dangerous is the carbon monoxide, leading to carbon monoxide poisoning, sometimes with supporting effect of hydrogen cyanide and phosgene. Smoke inhalation can therefore quickly lead to incapacitation and loss of consciousness."




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I was able to purchase whole sardines when I lived in California a few years ago; as well, fresh sardines have been sold at the Whole Foods in which I frequent.

I would encourage individuals to make a request to their local fishmonger to order fresh sardines upon their availability.

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I have no access to any fresh fish here at all, maybe online but money is tight!  So, I have to stick with the skinless boneless.  I do miss the calcium, but the omega's are the same, or so they say on the box anyway.  

I have been eating the Season's brand in water no salt and they are really good!  Better than crown prince water/skinless boneless.  The Reese skinless in olive oil are good too.  My boys really like those better than any so far.  The Bela were good, but my youngest didn't like them.  Too heavy for us...
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I've had fresh sardines as well, frankly I don't like them as much as canned, sort of like I don't like fresh tuna as much as canned.

I like the crown prince water skinless/boneless, but I like plain tastes



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