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I have started drinking my lemon water and my salt water together in the mornings. About 10 oz filtered water, 1/2 t. sea salt and at least 1 T organic lemon juice, stir it up, drink it down within 30 min. Every day that I drink that in the AM, but evening, great BM. I know it is supposed to clear mucus for A's, but wow, it clears more than that for me! How does this help those that drink lemon water in the AM? I don't know if it's the salt or lemon or a combo that is doing me so much good, but I think one could use this for a colon cleanse!!!




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It's the sea salt- the salt water flush is 1 qt of warm water plus 2 teaspoons of seasalt.  Most people drink it straight down, taste like a salty clear bouillion.  within 1  1/2 to 3 hrs you should empty out.  Recommended not to eat until you empty out, Good Advice: Stay near access to a bathroom.  The lemon juice is also used as a dieuretic, forces fluid to leave body especially from tissue.  Make sure you drink enough fluid daily.  Hope this answers your ?
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Italybound, I think it's the lemon. In my experience, when I was drinking my warm lemon water (and being compliant with my food intake), that would be the thing that spurred on the elimination. I've not been drinking the warm lemon water since I moved to Colorado, but am taking Polyflora which does the same thing for me. But today was the third day that I've been drinking the warm lemon and salt water, based on Dr. Lam's recommendation for adrenal fatigue. I was worried about the amount of salt, but the drink tastes really good to me, especially first thing in the morning.


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I drink a small glass of warm water with half of an organic lemon every morning.  

This helps to clear mucos from the system and revs up the digestive system, which can be sluggish for blood type A's.

I believe warm lemon water would be fine for all blood types; lemon is a fruit known for its internal cleansing properties.

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today was the third day that I've been drinking the warm lemon and salt water, based on Dr. Lam's recommendation for adrenal fatigue. I was worried about the amount of salt, but the drink tastes really good to me, especially first thing in the morning.


I have read over and over of members having their salt water every morning, as well as the lemon. I tried the salt water a while back, but  .  After reading about the need of the salt water at the same site (Dr Lam), I decided, I'd better give it a shot. So, just dumped them together to make a better drink IMO anyway. Just goes down easier for me. My brother has been having BM problems and I'm trying to get him to give this a  **real** try. He has done it a day here and a day there, but I want him to give it at least a week. He started today, so we'll see...........




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The salt water flush is very good. Check this http://lifeevents.org/salt-water-cleanse.htm
I try to  drink every once in a while to keep clean but only on the weekends as you do need to be close to a bathroom for a few hours after drinking. It makes you feel very clean inside. The taste is   but it does work  

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If one is wanting to be kept cleaned out but not have to be tied to the bathroom, what I'm drinking in the AMs is the way to go. I have a nice BM, but nothing close to diahrrea, more like what a BM should be. It's absolutely wonderful. I'm just glowing.  Jes' kiddin'    But hey maybe in the end (no pun intended), I *will* be glowing!  



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What about ACV instead of lemon ??






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What about ACV instead of lemon ??


No ACV for me thanks..    We used to have to take honey/lemon/vinegar water every morning as kids.  



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Taking one or two Polyflora on an empty stomach at bedtime may help move your bowel movements up to morning time after the lemon juice.  
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ACV = Apple Cider Vinegar?
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ACV = Apple Cider Vinegar?


yes.



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No ACV for me thanks..    We used to have to take honey/lemon/vinegar water every morning as kids.  


Oh that's too bad ... 'cause it's supposed to be absolutely amazing !!!
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/sinus_infection.html



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Oh that's too bad ... 'cause it's supposed to be absolutely amazing !!!http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/sinus_infection.html


I will check out the article and take it under advisement.    Thanks for posting !!



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I will check out the article and take it under advisement.    Thanks for posting !!



U're so very welcome bella  
This is a good read ...
http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html


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No ACV for A's and AB's...  Although I used to take quite a bit...  Now I use Lemon or Lime juice instead...


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Lisalea, good articles and thanks **so** much for posting them.  



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Lisalea, good articles and thanks **so** much for posting them.  



U r so very welcome ... we're all here to help one another !!  


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Interesting information, I might have to give it a try.

You also might want to check this out. Don't know how it impacts the BTD program.

Revitalize Your Body With the Original Himalayan Crystal Salt
- Discover the Salt that will actually improve your health

http://www.mercola.com/forms/salt.htm

http://www.himalayanlivingsalt.com/?sid=GoogleSalt

Himalayan Crystal Salt is the purest and most beneficial salt available. This salt comes from a time when the planet Earth was a pristine ecosystem. Containing the 84 minerals essential to human life, this salt is truly an ocean of energy! The degree of compression within this mountain range was so extreme that it created perfectly structured crystal grids within the salt.

Now you can gain immediate access to the hidden power in these unparalleled natural salt crystals. They have demonstrated their positive effects on a myriad of body functions, including:

- Re-mineralizing the body with 84 minerals and trace elements essential to health
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- Assisting in the cellular absorption of nutrients.
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sorry it is only complete normal salt...nothing else ; this is cheating people ...I think  
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I don't understand what you mean by "normal" salt, or why this would be cheating?

Table salt is really bad for you, and the seas are being polluted on a regular basis so sea salt is not always good for you either.

I've been using the Himalayan salt in cooking, and I see nothing wrong with using such a pure and beneficial form like this for daily consumption. If you read the info on the links I provided, it gives instruction on how to take this salt solution on a daily basis (along with salt baths, neti pot, etc.)
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Lisalea, thanks for the interestinglink, on ACV.
Italybound, why did you have to take ACV in the morning as a kid? Were your parents health food people? I guess it runs in the family..?
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i will have to try to the sea salt isa.. anyway the lemon i love because it works for keeping things moving but as of lately has not so i will add the sea salt and tell ya how it goes..
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I go through phases on how well the warm lemon/salt water works for elimination, and much of it has to do with what I ate the day before. But I love the taste of it!


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Italy - I wonder what effect if any the salt/lemon might have on intestional flora. (could it kill candida?) Do you take something to encourage healthy intestinal flora?

I tried the Salt Flush and it is amazing, but it does require a Spa Day - or at least Spa Morning. (my term for  dropping everything while I take care of my health)

I'll try your recipe.  Thanks for sharing.

The link to Dr Lam about Adrenal Fatigue is a real eye opener. I'm still trying to absorb it and apply it.
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i just tried this salt water with no results (except a queesy stommach bleh). maybe it will work tomorow though? i dont know.
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How much did you drink? Recognize that it may take a few hours to get results.


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i drank a glass of lemon water first but since that hadnt been working this week i decided to drink a another glass this time with 2 teaspoons of salt. since then i think i had about 3 glasses of regular water. i feel like i did when i was kid at the beach and accidentaly swallowed the nasty sea. ^^
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I suggest you put the salt into the warm lemon water. It tastes so much better that way.


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Italy - I wonder what effect if any the salt/lemon might have on intestional flora. (could it kill candida?) Do you take something to encourage healthy intestinal flora?


Polyflora O.  I was taking quite a bit of it for a while, but backed off for a while. Really do need to get back to it. And remember to take the ghee each morning. Boy that'd be a really awful thing to do .  It's amazing I forget it so much, as much as I love it. Guess it's the thing w/ getting out of bed being so hard. Hardest thing I do all day. Can't wait for my adrenals to be healed. Always sleep til the last second, then rush around trying to get ready. Which is really just adding to the problem. I'm in a catch22 w/ this thing right now.  

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The link to Dr Lam about Adrenal Fatigue is a real eye opener. I'm still trying to absorb it and apply it.


It is a great article purlgirl and the more you learn here, the more sense it will make. I remember long time ago, the first time I read it, I understood a lot of it, but I reread it not long ago and alot more of it made sense this time. Plus I've been reading the A/F: 21st century book and I want to make time to post on one of the adrenal threads about it. I'll just say this here...........Vit C.........can't say enough how important it is for healthy adrenals.




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i drank a glass of lemon water first but since that hadnt been working this week i decided to drink a another glass this time with 2 teaspoons of salt. since then i think i had about 3 glasses of regular water. i feel like i did when i was kid at the beach and accidentaly swallowed the nasty sea. ^^


I believe only a small, tiny pinch of good quality gray sea salt is required; 2 teaspoons of salt per glass be can quite salty.


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I believe only a small, tiny pinch of good quality gray sea salt is required; 2 teaspoons of salt per glass be can quite salty.Alia


Oh I agree and I'd think a steady diet of that wouldn't be good for one. I use 1/2 t salt in a small glass of water w/ my lemon, then follow that with more plain water.  Then the rest of my water thru the day.
Question re: lemon juice. I had been using Santa Cruz organic lemon juice (bottled). A friend of mine told me this kind of lemon juice is most likely pasturized and that changes how it acts in the body. She said it becomes acidic instead of alkaline. Comments please.
I must say, I used fresh lemon juice this morning and wow, what a difference. I'd forgotten how really good that tastes, but dont always have time to squeeze.  



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maybe i should try a different type salt, my sea salt from publix isnt "working" lol..
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maybe i should try a different type salt, my sea salt from publix isnt "working" lol..


you might try adding a T. of ghee each morning.



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I must say, I used fresh lemon juice this morning and wow, what a difference. I'd forgotten how really good that tastes, but dont always have time to squeeze.  


Pat, here's an implement that I use to squeeze the fresh lemons in the morning: CLICK. It takes barely any time at all to slice, squeeze, and rinse. Mine lives permanently in the dish drainer. They come in plastic, and enamled aluminum. I use the yellow one for both lemons and limes (since I don't eat oranges and they don't make 'em big enough for grapefruits).


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Pat, here's an implement that I use to squeeze the fresh lemons in the morning: url=http://www.cutleryandmore.com/details.asp?SKU=7552&src=NexTag&cam=Products&kw=7552]CLICK[/url].


well, that looks kinda cool.    guess the juice squeezes over the top of the lemon half and back down the outside of it, thru the holes and into .......... whatever.  



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It sort of turns the lemon half inside out (actually that's true more for limes), and is a great way to get the juice out. It also gets some of the lemon peel oil, so it's important to wash your lemons.


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I guess it comes w/ instructions ?  



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My poor Eye; actually eyelid. †Yesterday it was itchy - today its bright red and swollen. Itch, itch, itch. Took a 303 (valerian) to calm me.
As a kid we ate probably 90% avoids and I had boils, stys and allergies; then in my teen til 40 Acne. Wonder if this might be a cleanse of sorts. Been taking ( 3 days) the AM †Lemon and Salt water which is supposed to draw toxins out of the organs (and tissues I guess). †Poor me! The swelling is going down. O yea my ears have been popping - so maybe this is a good thing. (the stuff we tell ourselves to feel better)
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This is on the side that has always had the worse sinus pain.
Anyone get a cleanse reaction to the salt? I'm not discouraged, just interested in your thoughts. Actually I feel pretty good.

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Interesting, purlgirl.  I'd have thought you'd accidentally ingested an avoid with a reaction like that.  I had adult acne too (boils, actually, not just little bumps), till I got potatoes and peppers out of my diet.  I tried all sorts of things conventional and alternative and nothing worked till I got on the BTD.  I love it.  My skin looks great (comparatively) unless I somehow contact a nightshade (other than tomatoes, which don't bother me)---even if I touch a pepper or inhale them cooking my skin will break out in aweful boils for about 2 months.

Not to change the subject, though.......It's interesting that salt makes that much of a difference in elimination.  Does anybody happen to know if this cleansing process would be considered gentle enough to do while pregnant?  I know the lemon juice would be fine, but what about enough salt to send you to the potty quickly?  Any thoughts on that?

I have one of those lemon/lime squeezers too.  Got mine from Pampered Chef and I love it.  It makes juicing fast and easy and I don't have to pick the seeds out of the juice like I had to when I was using the regular kind that you have to "grind" by hand.  It makes salad dressing fast and easy to throw together too.  Lime juice and olive oil.  What could be better?


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I have followed the exact imstructions as outlined in ER and LR by using half of a squeezed lemon in warm water.  I do not add sea salt to my morning drink.  This warm lemon water drink clears the mucus and revs up my digestive system every morning.

I have never used bottled lemon juice.

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I've used both warm water and lemon, and warm water, lemon, and salt. I prefer the salty lemon water, taste wise, but haven't noticed that much difference in elimination between the two.


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I have noticed that adding the ghee to my morning routine, seems to be helping w/ things working properly.
I also found one of those juicers like the one Drea posted, 'cept it's not lemon colored.     Don't think I'll be using bottled lemon juice anymore. Fresh lemon tastes SO MUCH bette.  



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I'm not sure of the lasting qualities of this, but I used to buy a whole bag of lemons and squeeze them all at once and put them into a bottle so that I could have lemon-on-the-road back when I was drinking most of my water with lemon and salt. I stopped doing that because it was really not good for my teeth.

I guess you could squeeze and freeze the lemon juice to make it last longer; sometimes in the summer, the lemons would get moldy before I could use them all, and keeping them in the refrigerator kept them around a bit longer.


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maybe i should try a different type salt, my sea salt from publix isnt "working" lol..


Try a good quality gray sea salt as it adds vital minerals and nutrients to your water, thus into your cells.

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Try a good quality gray sea salt as it adds vital minerals and nutrients to your water, thus into your cells.Alia


Bold wording above is mine
Very important. FWIU, this is the dif between drinking reg water and a good salt water. The reg water does not get into the cell, where the salt water does. Do I have this right guys and gals?  



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Interesting about some people liking the saltiness and some not.  I seem to remember a poll a few months ago on the subject of salt and certain BTs liked their food salty (As maybe?) and others (B if I remember) did not.


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I love salty and sweet, sour and spicy. Oh and bitter, too. I love it all!


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seems that it wŁrrrgs ahem works

I am loosing the *waterretentions*...amazing.....yappperdappperduuuuu  
started on sunday with 1/2 lemon & a pinch of salt .....on empty stomach....woow


                                       
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Pat, here's an implement that I use to squeeze the fresh lemons in the morning: CLICK. It takes barely any time at all to slice, squeeze, and rinse. Mine lives permanently in the dish drainer. They come in plastic, and enamled aluminum. I use the yellow one for both lemons and limes (since I don't eat oranges and they don't make 'em big enough for grapefruits).



Oh wow Drea...this is the gadget my girlfriend introduced me to and it is amazing.  And yes...it does turn the lemon/lime inside out.  

Isa...glad to hear you are losing the water retentions.

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Oh wow Drea...this is the gadget my girlfriend introduced me to and it is amazing. †And yes...it does turn the lemon/lime inside out. †


I did buy one and it does work pretty well, but there is still some waste. I just get what more I can out of it then put the rest down the garbage disposal. All nice and lemony fresh then.  Thanks again to Drea for posting that. I do really like it. Makes quick work of having fresh lemon juice in the morning  



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I find that the squeezer works better for limes than lemons, as far as getting all the juice out. I think it's because limes typically have thinner skins. One thing to try is roll your lemons on a hard surface with the palm of your hand to loosen up the juice pockets before slicing and squeezing.


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limes typically have thinner skins. One thing to try is roll your lemons on a hard surface with the palm of your hand to loosen up the juice pockets before slicing and squeezing.


I think you're right on the limes having thinner skins. Will look for 'skinny' lemons next time .          Also , I did roll them but still the 'prob' with too much left, but like I said, I'll get it outta there somehow



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From my experience, smaller, rounder organic lemons have thin skins.

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yup, I have that same squeezer and it takes a bit of elbow grease with my homegrown lemons, but all in all I like its handiness.
Also, you'd think a huge meyer lemon tree would be handy, but actually it puts out millions of lemons but they all ripen at once and begin pelting you!

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Also, you'd think a huge meyer lemon tree would be handy, but actually it puts out millions of lemons but they all ripen at once and begin pelting you!


that's the 'problem' w/ most fruit trees........too many at once. guess the animals are happy tho.



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Could you squeeze tons of lemons and freeze the juice in ice cube trays?

Okay, so I tried the lemon juice and salt in water this morning.  Nothing was any different from normal.  If anything, it was much later (as in, hours) when I was finally able to produce anything.  Is this something that will take a few days for my body to adjust to?  I used to do the lemon water in the mornings but could never tell any difference, so I stopped.  I was inspired to begin again (and add salt) after reading this thread.


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well Ribbit, to be truthful, for me, I don't think it's the lemon/salt water, tho i'm not going to stop it. it's good for my adrenals (the salt).  I've added ghee to my regimen in the mornings. seems to be helping some.



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I have a lemon tree, and I freeze the juice in zip-loc bags.  I gave each of my siblings a bag of twelve 1 cup bags of lemon juice for Christmas.  I hope they use it.


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Italy, sea salt is good for your adrenals?  I have long thought I had adrenal issues (mainly from past chronic stress and because 1 c. of coffee makes me feel actually normal).  Yesterday when I drank the salt water in the morning I felt amazing all day and I couldn't figure out why.  (I've been eating a whole lot of neutrals because it's what we all have in common and I'm too tired to make 3 different BT meals 3 times a day.)  It didn't even occur to me to take a nap and I slept really well last night.  I forgot to drink it today and felt kind of bad.  I eat a lot of salt on my food, so why does that salt in the a.m. make that much difference?  Because it's got all the minerals and because it's on an empty stomach?


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Italy, sea salt is good for your adrenals? †Yesterday when I drank the salt water in the morning I felt amazing all day and I couldn't figure out why. † so why does that salt in the a.m. make that much difference? †Because it's got all the minerals and because it's on an empty stomach?


http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm#2
This is a list of symptoms and this next one is the whole article. If you think you have adrenal issues, please read it. If you have a color printer, I'd print it off in color and go somewhere quiet to read it. It is a long article, but well worth reading
http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm



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You know, I have read that article before and forgot about it.  I used to go to his site a lot but stopped when I went on the BTD.  Thanks for the reminder.  I'll go read it again...if it's possible for me to find a quiet place to read where I won't fall asleep first.....  


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Another step forward. I got the unrefined sea salt.
??? What if I mixed the Salt and boiling Water at night and put into a thermos - Then added fresh lemon in the am? I need it simple and also to be quiet in the am so I don't  wake DH. I like to drink it real early and go back to bed - isn't that what is recommended?

The  temperature graph on Dr Lam.com is really interesting. I got a new thermometer; I'm fluctuating between  95 & 97 degrees.  Havenít actually been doing the graft though.

Began reading the ďAdrenal Fatigue , The 21st Century Stress SyndromeĒ
There is a ďIris Contraction TestĒ  p78.  My right eye stays dilated. Wonder does that mean only one adrenal gland is in trouble? (my Dr just said its nerve damage. It was no big deal to him.  )
This link between the Pupil and adrenal problems has been known at least back to 1924.

Italy I don't think I thanked you for shareing so much with us. I feel really encouraged. thanks!
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Another step forward. I got the unrefined sea salt.
??? What if I mixed the Salt and boiling Water at night and put into a thermos - Then added fresh lemon in the am? I like to drink it real early and go back to bed - isn't that what is recommended?
Began reading the ďAdrenal Fatigue , The 21st Century Stress SyndromeĒ
There is a ďIris Contraction TestĒ †p78. †My right eye stays dilated. Wonder does that mean only one adrenal gland is in trouble? (my Dr just said its nerve damage. It was no big deal to him. †) This link between the Pupil and adrenal problems has been known at least back to 1924.Italy I don't think I thanked you for shareing so much with us. I feel really encouraged. thanks!


i'm just curious why you want to use boiling water unless you have to boil your water for sanitary purposes? Other than that, I'd think that would be ok.  I think it is just recommended that you drink the salt water in the mornings, but sleep until 8:30 or 9 if possible. That means being asleep the whole time. If you get up to have the lemon/salt water, you're interrupting your sleep. Something you dont want to do. It is said the hours between 7 and 9 AM are the most important to adrenal healing. Of course if you get up earlier than 6 AM normally, you'd want to adjust that time.

I dont know if only one pupil staying dialated means only one adrenal gland is affected or not. Please dont let that lull you into a false 'security' that they need attn if you have alot of the symptoms. Have you done the blood pressure test?


well it doesnt surprise me your dr thought nothing more of your eye contraction. they're all about doling out the drugs.    do you have a link to that info between the eye contraction and adrenals back to 1924? Would love to read it.

And you're quite welcome for the info. I want to post some other stuff for supps, but am not quite sure what to make of all of it myself. So will not do that right now. I was looking at the suggestions between Dr Lam and Dr Wilson.  



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Hi italybound,

Thank you for the salt, lemon juice & warm water drink suggestion for the first drink in the AM.  Have been doing it with Celtic Sea Salt, etc. for the last 5 days and †am quite pleased with the results. †The taste is pleasant.

Initially the results were quite dramatic but those results have slowed down. Cleaned out now???
Maybe trying the TAB. of Ghee in the AM would make a difference. O Goody, another experiment.
Thanks again.

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Margaret, wishing you a warm welcome to BTD and the forums!  

Glad you are seeing some improvement w/ the 'concoction'.   If ya think the lemon/salt water is good, wait'll ya get a taste of the melted ghee.....Yummmmmm  

Glad the info is of some help. We're all here to help each other and I think we do a fine fine job!!  




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Italy sorry it took me so long to answer, busy with company - then I couldn't find the thread.

I guess I got the idea the water was supposed to be boiled fresh ( as in making tea) from reading the †other salt cleanse page. †http://www.LifeEvent.org †"One Week Salt Water Cleanse"

So in your opinion water hot enough to disolve the salt is all thats intended - doesn't †matter if it has been sitting in a thermos. One thing I do know about boiling water is that you can boil it to long according to some experts on tea making.

The drink it and go back to bed was also from the one week cleanse. I wake up a lot so I just figured it was a good idea to have the drink earily and allow plenty of time to enjoy the results at home as opposed to out and about.

The information on eyes is in Ch 10 (pg 77) of the Adrenal Fatigue book just befor the blood pressure test. No I havn't done the BP test; don't think we have a tester.
I havn't got very far with the book yet.

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Ps- Wish this book and related subjects was was on audio - I  learn better by listening or a combo of see/hear. Have you come across any audio presentations?
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purlgirl, IMHO, even room temp water is fine for the lemon/salt water. That's what I use.  
I do agree about water boiled too long not good for green teas.  
If you're comfortable w/ getting up, drinking it, then going back to bed, I guess you can, bring IMHO, it would be better just to sleep thru until you're actually ready to get up, then have your s/l water.  
Havent run across this info from Dr Lam or A/F book on audio, but that's not to say it's not out there. Have you googled for it?  



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Italy I went to smart-publications.com  that publishes the AF book - no audio or video.  I'll just keep plotting along. I Love some of the illustrations.

Was http://www.mdheal.org  (on leaky gut syndrom) one of your finds? A difficult read (I don't pretend to understand it all) but worth reading. A lot of intestional problems in my family.

Did you mention how long you have been dealing w the AF issue?
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purlgirl,

A simple way to get hear the book is to read it aloud...  This is recommended to get the most from any reading, since you see and hear it at the same time, so you experience it using two receptors...

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Did you mention how long you have been dealing w the AF issue?


I was just diagnosed in Nov 2006 but knowing how it all starts, I'd say it started as a child. Lived in a very abusive home.  
Will look at the mdheal site, as I'm sure LGS is prob something I have as well....... double  



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I've been on the L-S-W regime for a week now. From the responses I read, I was expecting the earth to move under my feet I dont know whether my responses are strange, but I notice that I dont pee that much soon after the above + a glass of luke warm water. It feels like all of the water has been blotted away...and none remaining for flushing the kidneys. So I upped the water to the regular 450ml which I normally drink first thing in the morning. Still nothing with regards to the pee. I continue to drink my usual quota of 3 litres for the rest of the day, and the pee is OK. But nothing earth shattering in the poo department. I also dont feel the alertness that one is supposed to feel. Just normal. Could it be coz the adrenals are doing just fine, and there's not much junk in the system?

I dont suffer from constipation, but I don't seem to have any feeling of wanting to "go" either. When it happens, the stools arent hard or anything. Maybe I dont have much to eliminate...

I am continuing with this, twice a day though. Let's see what happens in a month or so...


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I've recently started taking 250 mg of magnesium (along with my Addrenal Assist) right before bed. Between that, and the LSW, my morning elimination has been good. It used to be that Polyflora was doing the trick...but no longer.


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well I really need to kickstart my elimination!!! Nothing since surgery 4 da. ago, meaning nothing since the day before that.....(5 da)! I know anesthesia can have that effect, but I'm trying the lemon salt water.......and waiting! I don't want to eat very much if nothings comin out....and I'm getting ready to be over this .
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well I have to update this as things have begun to move! Thanks for the l-s-w tip!!!
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I was just diagnosed in Nov 2006 but knowing how it all starts, I'd say it started as a child. Lived in a very abusive home. †
Will look at the mdheal site, as I'm sure LGS is prob something I have as well....... double †


Italy - I think we had simular early years. My mom was a wonderful christian woman.  Dad was not a christian and had severe mental illness from his experience in WW2. Growing up was hard but with the love of the congregation and Jah's protection all 5 of us survived. I was a very shy kid so some of my health problems do go all the way back. I realize some things arn't going to heal completely in this system, but I'm determined to be as healthy as I can.  Just wish I could get DH to be more interested in health issues.

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well I have to update this as things have begun to move! Thanks for the l-s-w tip!!!


You're so welcome and everyone - dont forget the morning ghee!!!  
purlgirl........sorry to hear you had a similar childhood........I do think it took it's toll on my health. When you are in dread of your dad coming home and count down the hours, mins and secs, until he leaves............that is so wrong on so many levels. Thank goodness we have better lives now and made better lives for our children.
Re: DH, just set a good example.........plant..........water...........repeat.......that's about all you can do. If you do the cooking, try cooking what's good for his b/t  without him knowing it.



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Or do what I did.  I put him on my A diet and almost killed him.    (This is when we figured out he has a pretty severe soy allergy.)  Then after a couple of months I switched him to his B diet and he's been a believer ever since.

Purlgirl, us A nonnies with stressful upbringings have extra issues to work through.  "Live Right 4 Your Type" has explained a lot to me about why I react the way I do to stress and why it takes me so long to get over stuff.  I thought it was my problem, but now I know it's an A nonnie thing--makes me feel a little better and I quit beating myself up.

Chronic stress can cause adrenal fatigue.  Italy, I didn't know that b/t 7-9 a.m. the adrenals regenerate.  My chilluns wake me up at 7:30 every morning and I always feel like if I could get at least one more hour of sleep I'd be okay, no matter what time I went to bed (usually around 9-10 p.m.---which SHOULD be enough sleep, but it never quite is).  There are days when I must return to bed right after breakfast because I'm so exhausted from just the simple morning routine that I can't stay upright.  Then if I can sleep just even 5 or 10 more minutes, I'm fine.  Strange.  It's like it resets something in my body and I can get up then.


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Rabbit - Thanks for your thoughts. Think I may have †read Live Right years ago befor I knew of my nonnism. I just got †it from the library and plan to read it.

Don't know DH BT. Hope he will let me test him. I really would like to fix bennefical food for him.
He loves Milk and doesn't seem to have any problems with dairy. †

Sleep - If I could sleep til 8 am I think life would be so much easier. The Adrenal Fatigue book discribes me pretty well. Just getting to the part about helping yourself heal.

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Although the L-S-W doesnt have an "impact" on my digestive system, it seems to work wonders to my skin. I dont use a moisturiser for my face any more! A bit of eye cream, yes, but not for the rest of the face. Wow, talk about intra cellular hydration!
Since the water we get here is pumped up with fluoride, I have replaced all my daily drinking water with L-S-W.

Thanks for posting this Pat


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Although the L-S-W doesnt have an "impact" on my digestive system, it seems to work wonders to my skin.  talk about intra cellular hydration!
Since the water we get here is pumped up with fluoride, I have replaced all my daily drinking water with L-S-W. Thanks for posting this Pat


Just curious how much of this you are drinking a day, especially on the salt?
You're welcome for the info, just hope you're not getting too much salt.  Lemme know, k?  



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I used to drink LSW all day long; it was the equivalent of 1/2 lemon in 1 L of water with a dash or two of sea salt. I got tired of that taste; plus one of my teeth chipped, which I attributed to the lemon water, so now I only drink the lemon in the am.


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now I only drink the lemon in the am.


That's me too.........I make my LSW and drink it in the AM w/ my thyroid pill. Then clear water or green tea the rest of the day.  



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Just curious how much of this you are drinking a day, especially on the salt?
You're welcome for the info, just hope you're not getting too much salt. †Lemme know, k? †


3x 750ml of LSW, a pinch of salt (really a pinch) to each 750ml, 1/2 teaspoon lemon juice to each 750ml. Other than this, I drink a glass of LSW with a pinch of salt & a bit of lemon juice first thing in the morning and last thing at night. And regular water as well.

Is this too much...?


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A/C, is 750 ml a little over 3 Cups or around 26 oz? If so, seems like it would be okay. As a rule, I use 1/2 t. salt a day. And the juice of 1/2 lemon. I'm not sure what everyone else uses. I think Dr. Lam says for adrenals, 1/2 - 1 t on the salt. So if you're only using a pinch to each 750mls, you should be ok, but if you think you have adrenal issues, you might want to be sure you get at least 1/2 t per day.  



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I got tired of that taste; plus one of my teeth chipped, which I attributed to the lemon water, so now I only drink the lemon in the am.


It is important to rinse or gurgle one's mouth thoroughly after drinking fresh lemon water, so the acidity from the lemon will not corrode the teeth and the inside surface area of the mouth.

Drinking lemon water from a straw and sipping the liquid will help, as well.

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I just posted this on another thread...but since this one's the one where it's being discussed I'll add my two cents.  I've drunk 1 lemon/1 tsp. salt/1 c. water every morning this past week.  I did not notice any difference in elimation.  BUT----I really think I had more energy.  The first day I felt really great, then subsequent days I felt just a little better than normal, plus I had a little trouble falling asleep at naptime.  Usually when I put the children down, I fall into bed myself and we sleep 2-3 hours every afternoon.  Now I'm just not needing it.  I lay there a while and rest, maybe dozing a little, then I get up (and maybe actually clean the house!  or just check messages ) and feel okay the rest of the day.  Interesting, huh?  I guess it's helping my adrenals.


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Ribbit, sounds like a win-win situation for you.  The salt is helping your adrenals and the lemon will help clear mucus.  



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I've been doing a glass of tepid water with the juice of one lemon and stevia in the mornings.  Is there some reason the water has to be warm?  I noticed alot of folks here are heating the water.
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As far as the gruggle, can you gruggle with mouthwash and will that do it as far as taking away the acididy?
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Is there some reason the water has to be warm?  I noticed alot of folks here are heating the water.


that will be interesting...........I just do mine at room temp...........
as far as gargling, I think I'd gargle w/ straight water and then the mouthwash, but that's just my opinion.  



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I've been doing a glass of tepid water with the juice of one lemon and stevia in the mornings. †Is there some reason the water has to be warm? †I noticed alot of folks here are heating the water.


Everything I ever read about drinking lemon water said warm, don't know about gargling.

I heat my water bc I use filtered water. Our  tap water  is so full of chlorine that you can smell and taste it. (who knows what else is in it - deffinately floride)
Be careful not to use water to hot or you will kill the enzymes in the lemon juice.

I love the warm Lemon & salt drink and believe it is helping me.


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I heat the water, too. I like drinking the salt lemon water warm. I've been told not to drink tap water that has been heated by the water heater, as it has all the nasties that live in the water heater. I'd rather drink heated cold water (not through the water heater)...


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Everything I ever read about drinking lemon water said warm, don't know about gargling.



Per ER and LR, the suggestion for blood type A's is to drink a cup of warm water with half of a squeezed lemon each morning to rev up the digestive system and clear mucus.

I pretty much follow through with the directions in these books; however, I use less warm, boiled reverse osmosis water, since I eat my breakfast immediately afterwards.  A few times, I have used one quarter of a lemon, but generally it is half of an organic lemon.

Other resources and authors may have slightly altering approaches. †Every individuals' personal taste preferences plays a role in this, as well.

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Totally interesting!  Thanks!  
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